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Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website?
by George Dawson 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Thanks Todd. -----Original Message----- >From: Todd <todd(a)savagevenus.net> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 8:29 PM >To: support(a)drupal.org >Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? > >I think that while the languages might be similar the approaches are different, which is why two different people have two different experiences. I think that I should try it again, perhaps, just to see if things had changed as this was probably around the Drupal 6 era but I just remembered trying both for a project and ultimately ending up going with Drupal. > >As for writing your own PHP, you can nearly do that with Drupal when it comes to hooks and such - I tend to use that approach myself, as I like to have full control over my creations and limit the number of tables, components, and other items that get used. That's not to say I do that for everything but I like to have that option available and use a steady mix of custom code and modules and contributed APIs like views and the like. > >It's all about finding your comfort zone, though, whether it's CodeIgniter or Drupal. > >Regards, >Todd > >On 25 Feb 2012, at 20:16, George Dawson wrote: > >> Interesting that we should have two very different experiences with the same products. Wish I could peep over your shoulder as you worked one and then the other. I find CodeIgnighter to speak a language I already know. Where as with Drupal, I am lost. I have tried on and off for two years now, 6 & 7, and I just don't get it. Wish I did. To do what I want, I find I have to do endless work a-rounds and overrides. For me, it is just so much easier to write my own php, jQuery, and talk directly with my database. Wish I did get Drupal. Maybe I tried too hard. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Todd <todd(a)savagevenus.net> >>> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 7:49 PM >>> To: support(a)drupal.org >>> Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? >>> >>> To each his own, of course, but the time I tried CodeIgniter, I found it to be a dreadful experience - everything from the code to the support was just subpar and I've found that doing something in Drupal took half the time it would have taken me to do it in CodeIgniter. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Todd >>> >>> On 25 Feb 2012, at 19:21, George Dawson wrote: >>> >>>> As you said, you can fix a problem in codeIgnighter in a matter of minutes. So, why do you not want to use codeIgnighter? It is not an admission of failure to use the quicker and easier to use tool. Not to mention, performance is far better. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Afan Pasalic <afan(a)afan.net> >>>>> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM >>>>> To: support(a)drupal.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? >>>>> >>>>> This is what bother me a most. >>>>> To test, I installed D7 on my local machine and created content type >>>>> "Place". Added image field (thumbnail), 5 text fields (Address, City, >>>>> State, Zip, Phone). >>>>> Added a node and got, for Address part: >>>>> Address: >>>>> 123 Main St. >>>>> City: >>>>> Drupal Town >>>>> State: >>>>> DS >>>>> Zip: >>>>> 12345 >>>>> Phone:>123-456-7890 >>>>> >>>>> Looks ugly. I removed labels but Address label on the top and put Phone >>>>> label inline. I got: >>>>> Address: >>>>> 123 Main St. >>>>> Drupal Town >>>>> DS >>>>> 12345 >>>>> Phone: 123-456-7890 >>>>> >>>>> Better, but still ugly. >>>>> For a last two hours I was trying to google ho to fix this and get city, >>>>> state and zip in one line - no luck. >>>>> >>>>> The space between Thumbnail and Address is to small - how to make it >>>>> bigger. I was google-ing too. Again no luck. >>>>> >>>>> To solve this I believe simple, kind of basic, problem, I need Forum and >>>>> this list, I have to wait couple hours, maybe day or two. What can I >>>>> expect when it comes to something "larger"? >>>>> >>>>> If I have to "correct" this in CodeIgniter, it's matter of minutes. >>>>> >>>>> But, are these Drupal "baby steps" something I HAVE TO go through as a >>>>> beginner, as everybody else? Or am I taking wrong approach? >>>>> >>>>> I'm not trying to say or prove anything. I'm just asking you for your >>>>> opinion and just trying to make decision what to use for my next website. >>>>> >>>>> Sorry for being such a cry-baby >>>>> :-) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 2/24/2012 11:20 AM, Afan Pasalic wrote: >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> I plan to build website about Rotue 66. And. according to my flow- >>>>>> chart, it will be a little bit more then basic site. Basic plot: on >>>>>> home page you will have an image (US map, or 8 Route 66 states map) >>>>>> with links to select a state. >>>>>> Once you select a state you will have >>>>>> a) list of cities (places) within the state you selected in the order >>>>>> they appear on the Route 66 (E.g. Kansas: Galena, Riverton, Baxter >>>>>> Springs. The order is from Chicago, IL to Los Angeles, CA) >>>>>> b) Google map with needles pointed to the cities within the state >>>>>> To see Places, you have to select a city from the list or the map. >>>>>> Once a city is selected a page should show >>>>>> a) list of Places in the city in the order they appear on the R66 >>>>>> (Cicero, IL: Cindy Lyn Motel, Henry;s Drive Inn, Robin Hood Muffler >>>>>> Shop, Bunyon's Hot Dogs) >>>>>> b) Google map with needles in Places. >>>>>> Clicking on the Place link on the list or clicking on the needle on >>>>>> the map, you will get to the Place page with more info about the >>>>>> Place: Name (title), History (body), Thumbnail, Location (geo- >>>>>> coordinates), Link to Galery/Photo album, Address. City, State. Zip >>>>>> info, etc. >>>>>> >>>>>> It would be great to have multi-level menu "Places" on Main Manu where >>>>>> first level are States, second level Cities within the State you >>>>>> rolled-over. And, of course, States (first level) is clickable too and >>>>>> will show you page with cities in selected State (List/Google map) >>>>>> >>>>>> I have two options to do this: >>>>>> a) using CodeIgniter and have mach more control over it (already know >>>>>> how to do that but it's a lot of coding involved) >>>>>> b) using Drupal7. It's probably much faster and safer but how much >>>>>> time I need to build something like this as a newbie with limited >>>>>> experience building very simple websites with Drupal 6 and 7 (static >>>>>> pages, contact form, forum, blog, and some work using View to show >>>>>> News on front page, block and News page) >>>>>> >>>>>> Any thoughts? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks a lot for any help. >>>>>> >>>>>> Afan >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>> >>>> -- >>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > >-- >[ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]

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Where is the content?
by Anthony 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

Here a general question: I have a site hosted on Bluehost. I was working on it and now have set up a wamp server locally cause I want to work on it locally (and I want to have the site in 3 places too to be safe of course). I did all the steps to create a local drupal site. I imported the database saved with the backup migrate module into the newly created database on the localhost with the same name as the remote db. BUT I don't see any content on the localhost, which content is existent on the remote site. Barring any issues like I used the wrong baked up DB, which I am checking, my question is more general. Am I correct in my assumption that the content lives in the DB? (sounds implausible that it will be somewhere else) Or do I need to import certain folders - I already downloaded the sites\... folders. Or what other explanation could explain. One other thing: I think it is probably irrelevant but I have 3 dbs. sitename_dp1, dp2 and dp3. I assume that these are just older dbs which were remnants of drupal installs that I deleted. I only imported dp3 to the localhost based on this assumption. -- *Anthony Stefan Maciejowski* *tony maciejowski** | analyst/programmer | websites | www.tony-mac.com<t_maciejowski(a)hotmail.com> * *Twitter: anntosh* | *Cell: 323.899.6206* | *Linked-In:* *Anthony Maciejowski* “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” --- Vaclav Havel

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Drupal 7 Views Bulk Operations
by Roger 29 Feb '12

29 Feb '12

I have a slight problem with VBO. It displays: Select all items on this page OR Select all items on this page The same message twice. Is there any way to correct this behaviour please thanks in advance Roger

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webform module
by Selvaraj Chnnasamy 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Hi All How do create label html in webform module in drupal6.0 Selvaraj.C

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One role per user
by Vaibhav Jain 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Hello Guys, I am planning to allow some users to add users to the site. The only concern is I want them to select only one user role, so, instead of a checkboxes, i want a select list or radio buttons. It can be achieved via form alter, but just wanted to know if there is any module available for this I am also assuming authenticated role is already assigned so we have assign only custom made roles. I am on Drupal 6. -- Regards, Vaibhav Jain

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URL weirdness
by Anthony 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

I am trying to login to my site. After I hit login I get a 404. The Url is changed to http://foo/bar*/bar*/mysitename/node?destination=node Somehow the second *bar* is getting inserted into the URL. (I used backup and migrate to back it up every day but can not start the *restore *as far as I know. ) Looked in the .htaccess and all is the same. Any ideas? -- *Anthony Stefan Maciejowski* *tony maciejowski** | analyst/programmer | websites | www.tony-mac.com<t_maciejowski(a)hotmail.com> * *Twitter: anntosh* | *Cell: 323.899.6206* | *Linked-In:* *Anthony Maciejowski* “Hope is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out.” --- Vaclav Havel

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watch dog module issue
by Selvaraj Chnnasamy 27 Feb '12

27 Feb '12

HI all * Warning*: Got a packet bigger than 'max_allowed_packet' bytes query: INSERT INTO watchdog (uid, type, message, variables, severity, link, location, referer, hostname, timestamp) VALUES (1, 'php', '%message in %file on line %line.', 'a:4:{s:6:\"%error\";s:12:\"user warning\";s:8:\"%message\";s:1539805:\"Got a packet bigger than 'max_allowed_packet' bytes\nquery: UPDATE cache_update SET data = 'a:69:{s:10:\\"background\\";a:25:{s:4:\\"name\\";s:10:\\"background\\";s:4:\\"info\\";a:5:{s:4:\\"name\\";s:10:\\"Background\\";s:7:\\"version\\";s:11:\\"6.x-1.x-dev\\";s:7:\\"project\\";s:10:\\"background\\";s:9:\\"datestamp\\";s:10:\\"1298618869\\";s:16:\\"_info_file_ctime\\";i:1329232033;}s: Could you please give me solution. Regards Selvaraj.C

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Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website?
by George Dawson 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

Interesting that we should have two very different experiences with the same products. Wish I could peep over your shoulder as you worked one and then the other. I find CodeIgnighter to speak a language I already know. Where as with Drupal, I am lost. I have tried on and off for two years now, 6 & 7, and I just don't get it. Wish I did. To do what I want, I find I have to do endless work a-rounds and overrides. For me, it is just so much easier to write my own php, jQuery, and talk directly with my database. Wish I did get Drupal. Maybe I tried too hard. -----Original Message----- >From: Todd <todd(a)savagevenus.net> >Sent: Feb 25, 2012 7:49 PM >To: support(a)drupal.org >Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? > >To each his own, of course, but the time I tried CodeIgniter, I found it to be a dreadful experience - everything from the code to the support was just subpar and I've found that doing something in Drupal took half the time it would have taken me to do it in CodeIgniter. > >Regards, >Todd > >On 25 Feb 2012, at 19:21, George Dawson wrote: > >> As you said, you can fix a problem in codeIgnighter in a matter of minutes. So, why do you not want to use codeIgnighter? It is not an admission of failure to use the quicker and easier to use tool. Not to mention, performance is far better. >> >> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Afan Pasalic <afan(a)afan.net> >>> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM >>> To: support(a)drupal.org >>> Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? >>> >>> This is what bother me a most. >>> To test, I installed D7 on my local machine and created content type >>> "Place". Added image field (thumbnail), 5 text fields (Address, City, >>> State, Zip, Phone). >>> Added a node and got, for Address part: >>> Address: >>> 123 Main St. >>> City: >>> Drupal Town >>> State: >>> DS >>> Zip: >>> 12345 >>> Phone:>123-456-7890 >>> >>> Looks ugly. I removed labels but Address label on the top and put Phone >>> label inline. I got: >>> Address: >>> 123 Main St. >>> Drupal Town >>> DS >>> 12345 >>> Phone: 123-456-7890 >>> >>> Better, but still ugly. >>> For a last two hours I was trying to google ho to fix this and get city, >>> state and zip in one line - no luck. >>> >>> The space between Thumbnail and Address is to small - how to make it >>> bigger. I was google-ing too. Again no luck. >>> >>> To solve this I believe simple, kind of basic, problem, I need Forum and >>> this list, I have to wait couple hours, maybe day or two. What can I >>> expect when it comes to something "larger"? >>> >>> If I have to "correct" this in CodeIgniter, it's matter of minutes. >>> >>> But, are these Drupal "baby steps" something I HAVE TO go through as a >>> beginner, as everybody else? Or am I taking wrong approach? >>> >>> I'm not trying to say or prove anything. I'm just asking you for your >>> opinion and just trying to make decision what to use for my next website. >>> >>> Sorry for being such a cry-baby >>> :-) >>> >>> >>> On 2/24/2012 11:20 AM, Afan Pasalic wrote: >>>> Hi, >>>> I plan to build website about Rotue 66. And. according to my flow- >>>> chart, it will be a little bit more then basic site. Basic plot: on >>>> home page you will have an image (US map, or 8 Route 66 states map) >>>> with links to select a state. >>>> Once you select a state you will have >>>> a) list of cities (places) within the state you selected in the order >>>> they appear on the Route 66 (E.g. Kansas: Galena, Riverton, Baxter >>>> Springs. The order is from Chicago, IL to Los Angeles, CA) >>>> b) Google map with needles pointed to the cities within the state >>>> To see Places, you have to select a city from the list or the map. >>>> Once a city is selected a page should show >>>> a) list of Places in the city in the order they appear on the R66 >>>> (Cicero, IL: Cindy Lyn Motel, Henry;s Drive Inn, Robin Hood Muffler >>>> Shop, Bunyon's Hot Dogs) >>>> b) Google map with needles in Places. >>>> Clicking on the Place link on the list or clicking on the needle on >>>> the map, you will get to the Place page with more info about the >>>> Place: Name (title), History (body), Thumbnail, Location (geo- >>>> coordinates), Link to Galery/Photo album, Address. City, State. Zip >>>> info, etc. >>>> >>>> It would be great to have multi-level menu "Places" on Main Manu where >>>> first level are States, second level Cities within the State you >>>> rolled-over. And, of course, States (first level) is clickable too and >>>> will show you page with cities in selected State (List/Google map) >>>> >>>> I have two options to do this: >>>> a) using CodeIgniter and have mach more control over it (already know >>>> how to do that but it's a lot of coding involved) >>>> b) using Drupal7. It's probably much faster and safer but how much >>>> time I need to build something like this as a newbie with limited >>>> experience building very simple websites with Drupal 6 and 7 (static >>>> pages, contact form, forum, blog, and some work using View to show >>>> News on front page, block and News page) >>>> >>>> Any thoughts? >>>> >>>> Thanks a lot for any help. >>>> >>>> Afan >>>> >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] > >-- >[ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]

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Drupal7 or CodeIgniter
by Roger 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

--%<snip I plan to build website about Rotue 66. And. according to my flow- chart, it will be a little bit more then basic site. Basic plot: on home page you will have an image (US map, or 8 Route 66 states map) with links to select a state. Once you select a state you will have a) list of cities (places) within the state you selected in the order they appear on the Route 66 (E.g. Kansas: Galena, Riverton, Baxter Springs. The order is from Chicago, IL to Los Angeles, CA) b) Google map with needles pointed to the cities within the state To see Places, you have to select a city from the list or the map. Once a city is selected a page should show a) list of Places in the city in the order they appear on the R66 (Cicero, IL: Cindy Lyn Motel, Henry;s Drive Inn, Robin Hood Muffler Shop, Bunyon's Hot Dogs) b) Google map with needles in Places. Clicking on the Place link on the list or clicking on the needle on the map, you will get to the Place page with more info about the Place: Name (title), History (body), Thumbnail, Location (geo- coordinates), Link to Galery/Photo album, Address. City, State. Zip info, etc. -- snip>% This, apart from the google bit, looks reminiscent of the system I'm working on. States have 1 or more Towns/Cities Town/Cities have 1 or more Venues Venue can have only one Town/Location and one State. I'm exploring taxonomy for this, it has some advantage. I have no content type but 3 taxonomy vocabularies: State Town/Location Venue Taxo terms are the states of Australia Taxo terms for Town/locality are the Towns were events are held, couple of hundred or so. Taxo terms for Venue are the names of each venue with 2 additional fields, one for Town/Location and one for State. These are Term References to the above vocabularies with all the new terms already added. I put an image in the body field but this could also contain a link to the google thingy you were discussing. So when creating a taxo term for a venue I can select it's locality and state, an image, a link or url. HINTS: -- I set up a special menu in a sidebar block so I could select which taxonomy vocab to add terms to without going thru menu structures. I can switch it off when not needed. -- use cck to insert images or set the filter below the body field to Full HTML, Select Source> and code the url yourself. -- make sure your permissions are correct or it won't work. -- use the search in Views to isolate the taxonomy terms from content. I set up a View to show Taxonomy Terms [not content] and in that created a block to display the field output. I put the block in sidebar 2 and when an item is clicked it shows the info from the other terms and the body info. In Address View> Fields I have: Taxonomy term:Name Taxonomy term:Street Details Taxonomy term:Locality/Town Taxonomy term:State [State should be the very last field in the view] Click on State> Rewrite Results> Rewrite the Output of this field: From Replacement Patterns choose [field_taxo_streetdetails] [field_taxo_locality_1] [field_taxo_venu_state] your names may be different. I always use field_taxo_name to easily differentiate taxonomy types from other content types. Apply all displays. Click on Taxonomy term:Street Details> Exclude fom Display Click on Taxonomy term: Locality/town> Exclude fom Display Save You should now have Venue on one line and full address and state on the second line. Each will have a link to the original Taxonoy Term and you can switch of the links as needed. Tweak it -experiment- it isn't perfect but it's a start. Others may comment on how to use rules or what ever to display different google maps per selection, that's out of my realm. Roger

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Re: [support] support Digest, Vol 110, Issue 46
by Roger 26 Feb '12

26 Feb '12

Apologies for top posting but you are looking at the screen output after you save the input form, It is awful and difficult to change. Install views, set up a View to manage the output of the form, you can make it look great in a View. There is a well hidden trick in views. It displays content automatically, in that you cannot change anything, so you need to select view fields and then add each field you want to see. Views is a whole other learning process but worth the effort. To my mind screen presentation of an input form save should be easily managed without the need to go the extra step and make a view. Roger >>> From: Afan Pasalic<afan(a)afan.net> >>> Sent: Feb 25, 2012 11:39 AM >>> To: support(a)drupal.org >>> Subject: Re: [support] Drupal7 or CodeIgniter fro new website? >>> >>> This is what bother me a most. >>> To test, I installed D7 on my local machine and created content type >>> "Place". Added image field (thumbnail), 5 text fields (Address, City, >>> State, Zip, Phone). >>> Added a node and got, for Address part: >>> Address: >>> 123 Main St. >>> City: >>> Drupal Town >>> State: >>> DS >>> Zip: >>> 12345 >>> Phone:>123-456-7890 >>> >>> Looks ugly. I removed labels but Address label on the top and put Phone >>>

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