[consulting] and they call it drupalcamp

Zack Rosen zack at civicspacelabs.org
Thu Feb 23 03:10:06 UTC 2006

Ok - somebody propose another place / time :)

Ideally it would be
* Soon
* In conjunction with another event people will be attending
* Close to a lot of Drupal shops (NYC, DC, Bay Area seem to be the  
* Cheap
* Near a venue we can use.  If it's in the Bay Area I have a few  


On Feb 22, 2006, at 6:49 PM, Dan Robinson wrote:

> Anybody think we could do this sooner?  like 2-3 weeks from now?   
> We've
> had to turn away work recently because there is just too much.  I  
> happen
> to know that other Drupal shops who were approached re: the same work
> are also slammed and don't have bandwidth.  On location -
> NY - You get Boston, DC, Philly for the price of one - yes it is more
> expensive - key thing would be to arrange very cheap housing.
> SF - cheaper - not as dense a population - more likely to find  
> crash space.
> I think we need to get this done :)
> Dan
>> As posted here:
>> http://www.zacker.org/drupal-camp
>> The CivicActions folks are starting to organize the first "Drupal
>> Camp", a multi-day intensive Drupal developer training program.
>> Why?
>> Every Drupal shop I know of is in a crunch of Drupal development
>> talent. The limit on their ability to take on more and bigger  
>> projects
>> is not from lack of sales leads or lack of management capability, it
>> is simply there are not enough seasoned developers on hand to pay to
>> work on Drupal development projects. An experienced and talented
>> web-application developer will take a bit of time to learn Drupal
>> inside and out and get up to speed developing complex websites, so it
>> is not simply a matter of bringing in fresh talent, we need fresh
>> Drupal talent. The Drupal economy is rocketing skyward and this
>> problem will only become more intense in the forseable future.  
>> This is
>> an immediate and growing problem that we need to start solving now.
>> Who?
>>    1. Drupal newbies sponsored by their parent companies
>> (CivicActions, Trellon, etc)
>>    2. Drupal engineering experts to lead the class. Anyone up for
>> this? :) (Matt Westgate, Crunchywelch provided he doesn't drown?).
>>    3. Other Drupal folks in the neighborhood also might want to get
>> together for a code sprint or to discuss Drupal projects.
>> When?
>> At Vancouver Josh and I floated out the idea of doing it in
>> conjunction with the Personal Democracy Forum on May 15th. This dates
>> works with me, does it sound reasonable to you?
>> Where?
>> If we do it in NYC in conjunction with PDF, I can think of two
>> possiblities off the top of my head:
>>    1. The Tank
>>    2. EyeBeam
>> I will follow up with my contacts at both of these venues tomorrow.
>> Does anyone know of another possible venue?
>> Curriculum
>> We should make sure that whatever is taugh and learned at "Drupal
>> Camp" is recorded and synthesized for posterity. We want to have many
>> more of these in the future so we should aim for publish-able
>> curriculum that can be later posted on Drupal.org.
>> Next Steps?
>>    1. Gregory Heller is organizing a consultant conference call to
>> talk about this and other issues shortly on the consultat  
>> mailinglist.
>>    2. David Geilhufe proposed we look into the former Ars Digita
>> training camps. I'll sign up to follow up and do some research and  
>> try
>> to talk to folks involved in organizing them.
>>    3. We need to figure out a data / location. Unless someone can  
>> come
>> up with a better data / location than PDF on May 15th let's go with
>> that. I will start looking seriously into venues tomorrow.
>>    4. We need to line up the teaching staff and get firm commitments
>> from vendors to sponsor newbies. I can take this on starting Friday.
>> Thoughts?
>> -Zack
>> On Feb 22, 2006, at 5:59 PM, Gregory Heller wrote:
>>> Perhaps the problem sets could include things like:
>>> Port a contributed module from 4.6 to 4.7?
>>> Integrate bug fixes or patches for a module
>>> they could be submitted by the community, or culled from the forum
>>> http://drupal.org/forum/51
>>> any revenue generated could go to defray costs for space, food,
>>> trainer's and organizer's time, back to drupal, and maybe to the
>>> "student" in an amount no greater than the cost of the camp (if  
>>> there is
>>> a cost associated).
>>> Another option could be completing an entire website project for  
>>> a non
>>> profit organization.
>>> David Geilhufe wrote:
>>>> Back in the dot com boom, a company called ARS Digita did "boot
>>>> camps."  I like the name "Drupal Camp"
>>>> These basically were 2-5 day training sessions for developers. You
>>>> went the camp, learned some basics and then completed some "problem
>>>> sets" collaboratively with the folks at the boot camp. A problem  
>>>> set
>>>> would be something like creating a module. Perhaps the problems  
>>>> could
>>>> be something like:
>>>> 1. Create a basic module.
>>>> 2. Create a module that exercises parts of the Drupal API  
>>>> thoroughly.
>>>> 3. Create a new theme
>>>> 4. ?
>>>> This would also be a great addition to the handbook for folks to
>>>> self-study.
>>>> If someone with more drupal skills were to work with me, we  
>>>> could come
>>>> up with a few problem sets to start putting together on the  
>>>> Handbook.
>>>> david
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