[consulting] Drupal Certification (was: General consultant'svent)
doug at unionwebservices.com
Mon Aug 10 16:15:05 UTC 2009
whoops that was meant for Victor, my bad.
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:09 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com> wrote:
> Ah, now there you're talking (guild/union). That is not the same thing as a
> "certification" program run by corporations, discussion of which I thought
> you were defending on the basis of your interchange with Nancy.
> So that would be a new thread (representing the interests of those working,
> but also giving useful info to clients...), if people are interested in
> discussing that I am.
> Victor Kane
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg <
> Alex at zivtech.com> wrote:
>> I'm not conflating anything, and if you look back at the thread you'll see
>> that I'm not advocating (at least not strongly) for a certification program.
>> I think what we need is a "guild" (or "guilds") or union of sorts, that can
>> define what it means to be a "Master" at Drupal development (a la 'Master
>> Plubmer') and provide the framework for becoming one.
>> Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg
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>> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Fitzgerald <bill at funnymonkey.com>
>> > RE:
>> > > And I don't know which marketplace you've been
>> > > talking to, but the ones I talk to think there needs
>> > > to be a better way to show that a firm/individual
>> > > is a Professional Drupal Developer/Development Shop.
>> > Every person who spends a penny on anything would like a better way of
>> ensuring that they aren't wasting their money. To conflate this very human
>> tendency with the need for a Certification System misses the point: part of
>> our job is to help people understand exactly what they are getting with
>> their investment (and as I see it, a client "buys" access to expertise,
>> which will save them time in the short run and increase efficiency in the
>> long run).
>> > In my past life (aka, before I became a Drupal geek) I spent far too
>> much time working around people who had excellent paper credentials but
>> lacked practical skills. These credentials ranged from tech certifications
>> to PhDs -- none of these are guarantees that the person holding them knows
>> *anything* about *anything*. One of the elements about the Drupal community
>> that is refreshing is the complete lack of reliance on these artificial
>> > Cheers,
>> > Bill
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