[consulting] Drupal workers' interests [was Drupal Certification]

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I am too. My first question is why a company wouldn't rather use J---- 
or some other solution than Drupal, if it comes with a union contract?

Victor Kane wrote:

>
> So that would be a new thread (representing the interests of those 
> working, but also giving useful info to clients...), if people are 
> interested in discussing that I am.
>
> Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg 
> <Alex at zivtech.com <mailto:Alex at zivtech.com>> wrote:
>
>     I'm not conflating anything, and if you look back at the thread
>     you'll see that I'm not advocating (at least not strongly) for a
>     certification program. I think what we need is a "guild" (or
>     "guilds") or union of sorts, that can define what it means to be a
>     "Master" at Drupal development (a la 'Master Plubmer') and provide
>     the framework for becoming one.
>
>
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>
>     On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Fitzgerald
>     <bill at funnymonkey.com <mailto:bill at funnymonkey.com>> wrote:
>     >
>     > RE:
>     >
>     > > And I don't know which marketplace you've been
>     > > talking to, but the ones I talk to think there needs
>     > > to be a better way to show that a firm/individual
>     > > is a Professional Drupal Developer/Development Shop.
>     >
>     > Every person who spends a penny on anything would like a better
>     way of ensuring that they aren't wasting their money. To conflate
>     this very human tendency with the need for a Certification System
>     misses the point: part of our job is to help people understand
>     exactly what they are getting with their investment (and as I see
>     it, a client "buys" access to expertise, which will save them time
>     in the short run and increase efficiency in the long run).
>     >
>     > In my past life (aka, before I became a Drupal geek) I spent far
>     too much time working around people who had excellent paper
>     credentials but lacked practical skills. These credentials ranged
>     from tech certifications to PhDs -- none of these are guarantees
>     that the person holding them knows *anything* about *anything*.
>     One of the elements about the Drupal community that is refreshing
>     is the complete lack of reliance on these artificial metrics.
>     >
>     > Cheers,
>     >
>     > Bill
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