[consulting] Drupal workers' interests [was Drupal Certification]

[Victor Kane]

A union contract?
All work done with union labor speaks of a superior quality.

If you are jumping on the bandwagon of companies trying to spread the
anti-union meme as a given, we are on different pages.

I think this is at the heart of the question, first.

Do you buy t-shirts made in sweat shops?

Victor Kane
http://awebfactory.com.ar

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 1:21 PM, Ayen Designs <info at ayendesigns.com> wrote:

>  I am too. My first question is why a company wouldn't rather use J---- or
> some other solution than Drupal, if it comes with a union contract?
>
> Victor Kane wrote:
>
>
> So that would be a new thread (representing the interests of those working,
> but also giving useful info to clients...), if people are interested in
> discussing that I am.
>
>  Victor Kane
> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>
> On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 12:56 PM, Alex Urevick-Ackelsberg <
> Alex at zivtech.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm not conflating anything, and if you look back at the thread you'll see
>> that I'm not advocating (at least not strongly) for a certification program.
>> I think what we need is a "guild" (or "guilds") or union of sorts, that can
>> define what it means to be a "Master" at Drupal development (a la 'Master
>> Plubmer') and provide the framework for becoming one.
>>
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>>
>>  On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Bill Fitzgerald <bill at funnymonkey.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > RE:
>> >
>> > > And I don't know which marketplace you've been
>> > > talking to, but the ones I talk to think there needs
>> > > to be a better way to show that a firm/individual
>> > > is a Professional Drupal Developer/Development Shop.
>> >
>> > Every person who spends a penny on anything would like a better way of
>> ensuring that they aren't wasting their money. To conflate this very human
>> tendency with the need for a Certification System misses the point: part of
>> our job is to help people understand exactly what they are getting with
>> their investment (and as I see it, a client "buys" access to expertise,
>> which will save them time in the short run and increase efficiency in the
>> long run).
>> >
>> > In my past life (aka, before I became a Drupal geek) I spent far too
>> much time working around people who had excellent paper credentials but
>> lacked practical skills. These credentials ranged from tech certifications
>> to PhDs -- none of these are guarantees that the person holding them knows
>> *anything* about *anything*. One of the elements about the Drupal community
>> that is refreshing is the complete lack of reliance on these artificial
>> metrics.
>> >
>> > Cheers,
>> >
>> > Bill
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