[consulting] oDesk

[Victor Kane]

It's the same thing, and if it isn't, the aim is to make it the same thing.

The aim is to drive down wages and worsen working conditions. The aim is to
make people afraid of being able to take a break, or answer a friends ping
on messenger.

Proving to the boss with a whip you're on the go, and if you take a break
you may not get paid, is sweatshop conditions.

No disservice done.

No-one voluntarily works in a sweatshop either. It's because they may not
have work. Citing the "freedom" to accept or not these conditions is
tantamount to a "freedom to work" position.

No-one has that freedom if they don't have work. There are tons of people in
the IT industry without work. These sweatshop conditions must never be
allowed to become "acceptable".

Victor

On Tue, May 5, 2009 at 4:32 PM, Sam Cohen <sam at samcohen.com> wrote:

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>> The attempt by you of posting here in order to normalize and pass off as
>> perfectly acceptable a power "master"/"slave" relationship between those
>> selling and purchasing labor power needs to be denounced, as several here on
>> this thread already have.
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>> I believe personally that it is brazen of you to defend sweat shop
>> conditions, where you as a purchaser of labor power get to pry into the
>> private screen of someone selling their labor power to you!
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> Who said anything about sweatshop conditions?  I think its unfair of you to
> accuse Matt of that.
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> He's simply trying to make sure that the folks he hires are working. Every
> employer in the world does that, and in remote work environments, it's
> particularly important.
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>  As free individuals they can chose not to accept that type of monitoring.
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> I wouldn't work under those conditions right now, because I have plenty of
> work.
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> But if I really needed the work and the condition was that I would be
> monitored, I would take it.
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> I hardly see that as slavery -- it's just being held accountable.
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> There is an enormous amount of  real suffering in the world by those who
> work in slavery or under sweatshop conditions.  You do them a disservice by
> equating their condition with an Odesk worker having their computer
> monitored.
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> Sam
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