[consulting] Professionalism

[Greg Holsclaw]

I think Sam has it right on. I have passed on a large project to Trellon as
bandwidth would not allow my full attention, and as a project manager
TopNotchThemes bounced me to a freelance themer who has worked out very well
for me.
 
I think it is unfortunate in the Drupal ecosystem if big players just bid up
a project out of the budget of a potential client instead of seeking to
bounce them to an appropriately sized firm.
 
PS. I have rightly spent over a week on one node template before. Many
'feature requests' can hide in the shadows of PSDs or wireframes ('fax this
page' functionality as small as a simple button ..).
 
Greg
 
 
Sam wrote:  

.This goes the other way too.  Freelancers who have really big sites come
their way, should sometimes pass them on to larger companies who are more
capable of handling it -- and the larger companies should be passing the
small jobs and sites to the freelancers and small shops.

Sam
 
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Nancy Wichmann <nan_wich at bellsouth.net>
wrote:
Fred Jones wrote:
> hired a fancy NYC company ... custom node template, based on a PSD.

That seems pretty darned expensive to me. When I worked at IBM, nothing
could be done by one person. You had to have an account manager, project
manager, architect, QA, etc. Each had his/her own hours to bill, and none
would be as low as $100/hr. However, that still seems quite high to theme a
node, but I've never worked with a PSD. I've done several node type
templates and not even my first one when I had to learn took 33 hours. If
they have to do some hooks to make sure variables are available, it could
easily take more than 3 hours, but nowhere close to 33.

Nancy E. Wichmann, PMP
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L. King,
Jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:consulting-bounces at drupal.org]
On Behalf Of Fred Jones
Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 7:09 AM
To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
Subject: [consulting] Professionalism

I work with someone on a Drupal 6 site and he hired a fancy NYC
company (that charges well over $100 / hour) to do some more work on
the site. The client asked me to write up a certain job and include
some time estimates. Part of it is a custom node template, based on a
PSD. The site template remains the same--this node template is just to
customize the content section. OK, it may involve a *bit* of PHP for
special fields, but it's still just a node template.

I estimated 3 hours and the NYers 33 hours. They estimate over $3300
to make one node template!

I don't understand how they are able to have enough business and a
good enough reputation to be charging high prices if they don't know
what they're doing. Because they don't--33 hours for a node template
is silly I think. The other programmer we use could do it in 3 hours I
think (and he's less than $100). He's just busy...

F

PS: Thank you for listening to my rant. I feel better now. :)
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