[consulting] Suggestion for Dries and Moderators: New Politics List

[Sam Cohen]

I'm not following why people are sending clients to this list.

It's for professional Drupal consultants, not for people who want to hire
Drupal consultants or ask consultants questions -- no?

Sam

On Mon, Aug 23, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Kevin Davison <kevin at quevin.com> wrote:

> Andrew, I think this is the right idea. Trolls need to be moderated,
> especially when the topic is not what we agree to discuss.
>
> Weeks ago, I referred a prospect looking for help to this list, and I
> recently saw them asking how to be removed. They were expecting to join a
> list to get consulting help, not to get flamed with political rantings. This
> list has lost a potential client looking for services, so consider that.
>
> You are losing business. Plus, I'm removing myself from this list now. I
> will no longer be seeking paid help from this list. At least not until I
> hear that the list is moderated so it becomes useful again.
>
> Goodbye
>
> On Aug 23, 2010, at 08:03 AM, Andrew R. Kelly wrote:
>
> > This is a rock-solid response.  Therefore I fully expect a rebuttal :(.
>  We
> > (meaning my small band of drupaleers) enjoy this list and in fact promote
> it
> > as a feature of Drupal in our value points to clients as we battle
> > commercial software packages.  If a prospect decides to look under the
> hood
> > and stumbles onto threads like we've had recently that won't be pretty.
> >
> > C'mon folks let's keep our eyes on the target - building Drupal market
> share
> > one gig at a time, using the power of community to combat commercial
> > solutions.
> >
> > Thx Adam.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: consulting-bounces at drupal.org [mailto:
> consulting-bounces at drupal.org]
> > On Behalf Of Adam Mordecai
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:22 AM
> > To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers
> > Cc: sami.khan at etopian.com
> > Subject: Re: [consulting] Suggestion for Dries and Moderators: New
> Politics
> > List
> >
> > Yea, hilariously, last night I wrote an extremely rude email in response
> to
> > Sami's really rude email, and it got moderated (due to size limitations)
> and
> > I've cancelled it this morning because it didn't further the
> conversation,
> > just made me feel better.
> >
> > Alex I've joined your group and will gladly track down people who might
> want
> > or be able to support it. These kinds of emails suggesting resources and
> > tangible things you can do are exactly the kind of thing that DO add to
> the
> > conversation.
> >
> > Again what I meant to say by moderation wasn't that every post has to be
> > approved, just that when the discussion gets way out in the weeds a
> > moderator can chime in with best practices and resources and ask people
> to
> > move it off list. Then if someone continues to disregard that, they could
> be
> > put on probation or booted if they can't play well with others. Sami
> posted
> > 48 different emails this month to the list (18% of total list traffic)
> only
> > around 8 of which actually were not related to the original political
> thread
> > and about consulting. I just think a little common sense and respect for
> > other people's time would make things work better around here.
> >
> >
> > On Aug 23, 2010, at 2:22 AM, Alex Rollin wrote:
> >
> > Hi Adam,
> >
> > I'd like to add in that I was inspired by the conversation to go do
> > documentation about how Drupal Workers could form a cooperative.
> >
> > http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative
> >
> > We've had a number of folks join the group and I hope you will, too.
> >
> > I don't think that prohibiting all "organizing related" traffic is your
> > intention with moderation.
> >
> > It's still permitted to link link link(?):
> > http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-worker-cooperative
> >
> > Linking this within the list is appropriate, no?  To post links about
> > discussions on GDO that we see as relevant but tangential, yes?
> >
> > Perhaps, then, if this is okay, then what we have here is a bit of
> > etiquette.  You can use the list to link to tangential and relevant
> things
> > on GDO?
> >
> > Then it is up to everyone else to hold back the impulse to jump in and
> make
> > the thread grow.  Instead, head over to the link?  Can we self-moderate
> > around something like this?
> >
> > Alex
> >
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