[consulting] Consultant Community

[Ms. Nancy Wichmann]

You wouldn't have a link to that revelation, would you? Ten years ago, IBM 
was billing me at $300 per hour and paying me less than $40. So re-billing rates may not mean much.


Please don't confuse "outsource" with "offshore." Like me, many of us on this list are freelancers - that is, outsourcing material. "Offshore" refers to acquiring resources from outside one's home country. For example, 
if a US based company hires someone from the US, they are outsourcing. 
If they hire someone from Viet Nam, they are outsourcing from offshore 
(commonly shortened to "offshoring"). Likewise, I have heard of Indian 
companies hiring project managers (or customer liaisons) in the US; that would be offshore to them, and those project managers would be 
double-offshore to the original client.

Nancy
 
Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.



>________________________________
>From: Fred Jones <fredthejonester at gmail.com>
>To: A list for Drupal consultants and Drupal service/hosting providers <consulting at drupal.org>
>Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:08 AM
>Subject: [consulting] Consultant Community
>
>First, as I was one of the persons who posted inappropriate remarks
>recently, allow me to apologize both to the parties involved, and to
>the entire list. I'm sorry.
>
>Second, in response to a comment made:
>
>> this is not in the sprit of the community that I have been involved in for the last 10 years.
>
>I thought to raise the subject of the nature of this community.
>Clearly it's not the same as it was 10 years ago. Back then there were
>well under 3K users on d.o. Even 5 years ago there were less than 80K
>users. Today there are close to 1.5 million users. These numbers I
>obtained just by playing with the user id on d.o. I even graphed it:
>
>http://imageshack.us/f/585/20110823145904.png/
>
>I'm not here for 10 years, not even 5 really--I'm been hanging out for
>3 or 4 maybe, so I don't know the history as others do, but aside from
>the exponential growth of the overall community, the developers
>community has also grown in numbers and in diversity. It was revealed
>at a Drupalcon last year (or two years ago) that there are dev shops
>charging up to $300 an hour. Now it has been revealed that there are
>also resources offering their services for $2 an hour.
>
>I am not intending to make any negative inferences towards outsourcers
>(there are American teenagers also working on eLance for a few dollars
>an hour, heh heh), but I am trying to get a feel for what people think
>about the growth of the community and how much cohesiveness there is.
>Or could be.
>
>I think this is quite relevant to this list and I hope at the least it
>provides food for thought.
>
>Fred
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