[development] #drupal / #drupal-dev split considered harmful

Dave Fletcher fletch at splendora.com
Wed Aug 1 00:01:59 UTC 2007

"When you've helped more Newbie-Developers(!) than I (in #drupal), you
may make such remarks."

Why does the channel matter? I've helped dozens or hundreds of
fledgling folks take their first steps. You're probably the one who
sent them to #drupal-support where I helped them. Development support
abounds in that channel because some folks are actually scared to poke
their heads into drupal (jeez, um guess why?)

"working with it" entails *doing what people expect*, not shoving them off.


On 7/31/07, Gerhard Killesreiter <gerhard at killesreiter.de> wrote:
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> Dave Fletcher schrieb:
> > Killes,
> That's "Mr. Killesreiter" for you.
> > don't you see that it's this horrible condescending attitude
> > that is the whole problem? Do you not *want* newbies?
> > Are you allergic?
> When you've helped more Newbie-Developers(!) than I (in #drupal), you
> may make such remarks.
> > New folks are often in a rush to get their first project out the door.
> > It's understandable. That's why they picked a CMS and didn't sit down
> > to write an application. So they're in a hurry, glance at IRC
> > channels, and find one that looks like it will help. *This will
> > continue to happen no matter what the channel charters are*
> So? We'll send them to the right place.
> > So, my vote is, let's work with it instead of fighting it all the
> > time. Mr. Killesreiter
> See, there you got it right.
> > we're having fun while the tumbleweeds blow in
> > #drupal. Join us! It's your destiny ;-)
> No.
> I actually don't mind that there is less traffic now.
> Cheers,
>          Gerhard
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