[development] taking a break

Khalid Baheyeldin kb at 2bits.com
Sun Jul 1 22:59:25 UTC 2007

On 7/1/07, Ashraf Amayreh <mistknight at gmail.com> wrote:
> I really won't make it long, but with another person to give final
> decisions the RTBC queues would deplete faster, the workload on Dries would
> lessen, the patches going in to core would almost double, and everything
> will be swell for everyone.
> Real leaders delegate and I have faith that Dries has or will in fact do
> that when he finds someone who can share this load. Unfortunately, Dries is
> the current bottleneck, not because he's not doing a splendid job but
> because he's a human who can't take the load no matter how hard he tries to
> prioritize.
> Dries, why don't you choose a person and hold the right to revoke that
> authority from him if he goes off track? You'll really have to choose wisely
> but you will speed things by about the double. And just keep a close eye on
> him or any complaints that you may get.
> If this doesn't sound convincing enough then just imagine how things will
> become once the core developers double in number!  Without a sub-Dries
> things will look twice as bad for core developers as they are now. This is
> flagging a warning that we should heed.
> On 7/1/07, Fernando Silva <fsilva.pt at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 7/1/07, Chad Phillips -- Apartment Lines <chad at apartmentlines.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Nedjo wrote:
> > >
> > >> There are very few members of our community who consistently meet
> > these
> > >> measures. Dries is one of them, and Drupal's success is due
> > insignificant
> > >> measure to that fact.
> > >
> > > i agree.  but let me suggest that there's a bit of a self-fulfilling
> > > prophecy going on here.  i think more members of the community could
> > > meet the measures you outlined, if they were given the chance to
> > > assume the responsibility, make some mistakes, and learn.
> >
> > Just to name a few:
> > * more chx involvement
> > * Bèr being taken more seriously
> > * more support for decision made by robertDouglass and Kjartan
> >
> > Anyway, the problem taking more people into core development is that
> > there is not a "clear roadmap" to accept new core developers. The
> > current situation can be resumed in some steps:
> > * a developer starts using and developing drupal
> > * until that developer makes some real good module (that should be in
> > core) or "extraordinary something" it will not be "accepted" into core
> > even if he lives to patch bugs
> > * after acception based in meritocracy, there exists a small democracy
> > based on "influence"
> > * finally there is a monarchy to "rule them all"
> >
> > These are the facts and, before anything else, one thing must be said:
> > in this exact moment Drupal lives well, has fantastic developers and a
> > guy that knows how to rule.
> >
> > So where is the problem? Nowhere! There is no problem... yet. And is
> > this small "yet" that should make some of the more influent guys
> > around here think about.
> >
> > Will Drupal community wait for a real problem, to solve it, or prepare
> > the vaccine before the disease comes?
> >
Dries already did that.

Gabor Hojtsy is the co-committer for D6. Neil Drumm was for D5.

Dries has done a good job so far. I think we should voice alternatives and
let him decide how best to handle him.
Drupal development, customization and consulting.
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