[development] Can cash for views/cck help speed Drupal 6 adoption?

Steve Dondley sdondley+drupal at gmail.com
Fri Jan 25 18:20:30 UTC 2008

Yes, this struck me as the right answer, too. So, the next question
is, what kind of budget would we be looking at? Once we have a goal,
then we can find businesses to help meet it.

On Jan 25, 2008 12:09 PM, Robert Douglass <rob at robshouse.net> wrote:
> Here's my take on the situation. There isn't very much really good
> in-depth writing about Views from the smart developer's standpoint. I'm
> not talking about how to do Views integration with your module, which is
> pretty well understood. There's a little more out there for CCK, and
> that might be one of the reasons more people feel equipped to develop
> CCK. CCK has already been around longer, and was the result of much more
> collaboration from the onset. These are just historical observations.
> Where money might really make a difference in the long run would be to
> hire someone smart to really dive into Views 2 and write about how it
> works. The whole Views developer ecosystem is focused on "providing
> views integration with X" and lots of people can now do this. It's a
> different matter altogether, though, when it comes to understanding how
> it works in the back end.
> -Robert
> Earl Miles wrote:
> > Steve Dondley wrote:
> >> 1) CCK and Views modules conversion to Drupal 6 is far behind.
> >
> > Depends what you mean by behind. I had a commitment to Panels before I
> > had a commitment to Views 2, and it's not feasible to work seriously
> > on both simultaneously. Once Panels 2 hit beta, Views 2 work started
> > picking back up. That was less than a month ago.
> >
> >> 4) CCK and Views module conversion is slow because they are complex
> >> modules done in people's spare time.
> >
> > I spend a lot of sponsored time on Views 2. CCK is more spare time,
> > but there is a bigger group working on CCK and they had a 4 month head
> > start on me.
> >
> >> 5) Paying experienced drupal coders to work on these project will
> >> speed development of these modules.
> >
> > The main problem I see is getting developers up to speed. It requires
> > my resources to teach people what I want them to do. That said, I can
> > still use the help of a couple of really good devs, but I don't have
> > time for devs who aren't already very familiar with Views. And I can
> > count on my hands the number of devs I've spoken to who qualify, and I
> > can count on my head the number of those devs who have time to commit
> > to it (and that's with or without a monetary incentive).
> >
> >> 6) Firms that build websites using Drupal have an interest in rolling
> >> out newer and better versions of Drupal so they remain competitive.
> >> 7) These firms have cash to pay experienced Drupal coders.
> >> 8) It would be wise to have these firms pool money together to help
> >> speed the development of Views and CCK.
> >
> > PingVision offered, but I think they were expecting me to be more
> > proactive about assembling resources. Unfortunately, one thing I am
> > not is a good project manager -- I find it distracting and difficult
> > to try to manage developers when what I really want to do is have my
> > head deep in code, coming up with solutions.
> >

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