[development] Moving working Drupal environment to another web-hosting server

[Shai Gluskin]

Nancy,

I'm not sure what files problem you are talking about.  I ran in files
directory location problems a lot when upgrading from D5 - D6, but not with
server moves.

Sometimes with server migrations there can be permissions issues, but that
has nothing to do with the path, and you are suggesting there is a path
issue here...

On single instance sites I never use the sites/example.com/files structure.
I always use: sites/default/files.

Backup and Migrate v 2 lets you store manual and scheduled backups outside
your public directory. This, is of course, is more secure than the methods
used to protect those directories when they need to be in the files
directory. So that's something to remember to keep straight...

But still, I don't understand the problems you are referring to.

Shai

On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 2:54 PM, nan wich <nan_wich at bellsouth.net> wrote:

> Actually, look in the Drupal Cookbook.
>
> And don't forget that the most important site PHP settings can be put into
> the settings.php file (unless your host overrides them).
>
> I wholeheartedly agree with the Pathologic recommendation, especially if
> you entertain any notions of RSS feeds.
>
> The biggest trip-up I see in moving sites is in the file settings. I prefer
> creating a unique, but short sub-directory under files, with that being
> used. I find it easier to do that than to use sites/sitename.com/files/..
> ..
>
>
> *Nancy*
>
>
>
> Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L.
> King, Jr.
>
>
>  ------------------------------
> *From:* Randy Fay <randy at randyfay.com>
> *To:* development at drupal.org
> *Sent:* Sun, November 7, 2010 12:14:35 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [development] Moving working Drupal environment to another
> web-hosting server
>
> Great advice.
>
> I don't see  a good handbook page on this subject, or at least it's not
> easy to find. I encourage one of you to create a handbook page (or make it
> findable) with this excellent summary. Don't want to have great info like
> this hidden in the dev list.
>
> -Randy
>
> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Shai Gluskin <shai at content2zero.com>wrote:
>
>> Kamal,
>>
>> Larry's list is quite extensive... I'll add just a couple more things.
>>
>> It's possible/likely that default PHP settings are different on the two
>> servers. If both servers allow it, you might create a custom php.ini file
>> that you then also copy over to the new server with the other files.
>>
>> The most common differences will be in memory settings and maximum file
>> size and posting sizes.
>>
>> But be careful where you put the php.ini file depending on the
>> requirements of each server. For instance, a php.ini file that is put in a
>> sub-directory of a public_html directory will likely be ignored.
>>
>> If you go to: example.com/admin/reports/status you'll be able to click on
>> the PHP version number which takes you to a page which lists the active PHP
>> settings on the site. That way you can verify if your custom php.ini file is
>> the one actually be applied on the site.
>>
>> The other typical problem with moving a site can be URL links. As long as
>> links are relative, you won't have any problems. However, there are some
>> good reasons to use absolute paths. For instance, the imagecache and insert
>> modules both use absolute paths. The Pathologic<http://drupal.org/project/pathologic> module
>> and some other modules could take the pain away on this issue. If you ever
>> get that anxious feeling after moving to a new server, like, "I think I
>> handled everything regarding link integrity, but maybe I forgot
>> something..." the Linkchecker <http://drupal.org/project/linkchecker>module is awesome, it will uncover any problems with links.
>>
>> But I do agree with Larry, it's really pretty easy to migrate a Drupal
>> site.
>>
>> Shai
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 7, 2010 at 3:35 AM, Larry Garfield <larry at garfieldtech.com>wrote:
>>
>>> It's absolutely possible and quite easy to move a Drupal install from one
>>> server to another.  There's various handbook pages on the subject you can
>>> find
>>> with a little searching on the new site, but the general outline is:
>>>
>>> 1) Copy all of your code and files directory to the new server.
>>>  (Remember the
>>> .htaccess file, which is hidden by default.)
>>>
>>> 2) Copy the database you've been using to the new database server.
>>>
>>> 3) Update the settings.php file to point to the new database credentials.
>>>
>>> 4) Maybe edit your .htaccess file if necessary, but frequently it's not.
>>>
>>> 5) Clear the cache.
>>>
>>> 6) Profit!!!
>>>
>>> Drupal doesn't store information anywhere else besides its own files
>>> directory
>>> and the database you've configured.  (Well, unless you have an add-on
>>> module
>>> that uses some other database or system for some reason, but you would
>>> definitely know if that's the case.  If you have to ask, then it's not.
>>> <g>)
>>>
>>> --Larry Garfield
>>>
>>> On Sunday, November 07, 2010 12:47:41 am Kamal Palei wrote:
>>> > Hi All
>>> > Let me first thank you all for providing such a great platform Drupal.
>>> > I am quite new to Drupal environment. With the given documenttaion I
>>> was
>>> > able to get Drupal up and running.
>>> >
>>> > I have few questions as below.
>>> >
>>> > 1. Now I am gooing to develop complete site in my local machine.
>>> > Basically I am going to make a site, where site visitors can upload
>>> their
>>> > resumes.
>>> >
>>> > In the process of development, I might use panels, blocks, views etc.
>>> > I may add contents to different pages and customize it as per my need.
>>> >
>>> > Once all development is done, I plan to move my site to a proper web
>>> > hosting machine.
>>> > Is it possible to move a working Drupal based environment to new web
>>> > hosting platform?
>>> >
>>> > My worry is, in the process of developemnt, Drupal might have used
>>> local
>>> > machine database
>>> > to store any informations, once we move the environment to new web
>>> hosting
>>> > m/c, will it
>>> > not loose those informations?
>>> >
>>> > Can somebody guide me, is it possible to move localy developed Drupal
>>> > environment to a new web hosting machine.
>>> > If possible, please explain and provide link to related documentation.
>>> >
>>> > Regards
>>> > Kamal
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Randy Fay
> Drupal Module and Site Development
> randy at randyfay.com
> +1  970.462.7450
>
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