[documentation] info needed for installation guide

[Shai Gluskin]

Kazar, thanks for the initiative, Tom, thanks for those screen shots.

Whoa... I hadn't noticed the new *role* that comes *pre-configured*, the
"Administrator." (Not sure if this is in the "minimal" install or not).

Here is the thread in the queue that created it:
http://drupal.org/node/480660

This administrator role is different from "user/1 that you create when you
install the site and who is still the "super-user." Not sure if the initial
help-text still refers to user/1 as an "administrative account" which would
be a bad idea with the new pre-installed "administrator" *role*. User/1
should be referred to as "Super-user" which doesn't have that "admin" sound
in it all.

Meanwhile, I'm pretty sure the Administrator pre-configured role is mostly
for convenience and promoting best practices when setting up a site (setting
up an administrator role outside of user/1 with lots of permissions
pre-set). However, I do think there is some extra functionality whereby when
a new module is installed it automatically assigns all its permissions to
the administrator's role. You could then unset them after that. I'm not
totally sure about this. It's a similar functionality to the following
contrib module now for 5 and 6: http://drupal.org/project/adminrole

But anyway... in the context of this list, this is to flag that this is a
significant change from D6 and so the manual will be important in describing
this.

Shai

On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 5:20 PM, Jeremy John <jmjohn at riseup.net> wrote:

> Shai,
>
> This is an interesting idea:
>
> "The last dev. version of 7 that I saw called minimal "expert" which I have
> a real problem with. I actually think someone's learning curve with Drupal
> would be vastly improved by actually creating the content type at the
> beginning. A bit longer for sure to set up, but they will actually
> understand what a content type is and the relationship between those
> settings and a content-type."
>
> If folks were to be walked through a content-creation "wizard" with all of
> the steps and good explanations of what a content type (and for that matter
> what a node was), then this might be useful.  However, if it's just another
> thing that doesn't work out of the box on Drupal, then it's a bad idea, then
> they'll be too frustrated to even learn what a node is.  I've watched people
> time and time again walk away from a fresh Drupal install because they can't
> figure out how to say, upload images or install a WYSIWYG editor.
>
> -glass.dimly
>
>
>
> Shai Gluskin wrote:
>
>> Kazar,
>>
>> Let me preface this by saying that D7 is not done and is being changed
>> every day. I've installed it once and poked around briefly. So that's the
>> grain of salt you need to take this with.
>>
>> "Standard" comes with two "content-types" already created like with D6. It
>> comes with the "article" (replaces "story" from D6 -- but it is just a label
>> change) content-type which has commenting turned on by default and
>> "submitted by" information turned on by default and also "promoted to front
>> page" turned on by default. The second content-type is "page" which has
>> commenting, "submitted-by", and "Promote to front page" all turned off by
>> default.
>>
>> "Minimal" does not come with any content types set up so you have to add a
>> content-type before you can add content to the site. As part of adding the
>> content-type you set the comment defaults and also the work-flow (published,
>> promotoed to front, sticky), and submitted-by default settings as part of
>> creating your first content-type.
>>
>> The last dev. version of 7 that I saw called minimal "expert" which I have
>> a real problem with. I actually think someone's learning curve with Drupal
>> would be vastly improved by actually creating the content type at the
>> beginning. A bit longer for sure to set up, but they will actually
>> understand what a content type is and the relationship between those
>> settings and a content-type.
>>
>> Shai
>>
>>
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