I would strongly encourage you to have a look at customizing the drupal themes. There's not much that you can't change in terms of how drupal looks. If you have file level access you can customize a great deal of the html that drupal outputs, particularly if using drupal 4.7. It is quite simple if you take a gander at the drupal theming handbook, and then modify the template files found in the themes directory. You could certainly comment out a great deal of the html produced if that is really your desire. I don't advise it, however.
I'm currenlty in the process of developing a module that's actually handling form posts, and reading/writing data to a separate database, and only using drupal to provide the HTML producing API, just so that I don't have to write a CSM in my own app.
If you're really trying to get drupal to NOT handle the html, you should consider abandoning the product as you've already indicated. IMHO it would be better than trying to kludge together the product.
Drupal is after-all first and formost a CMS. So if you're don't want to use drupal to provide look and feel, I think you'd be better off not using it all.
Hope you don't mind me being direct here. Good luck,
Dave
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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Mil Imon Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:41 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: [support] HTML template with drupal in background
I'm the project manager for a large website. I've been hired to take over for a contract that is 3 months overdue. The programmer chose drupal and has a substantial but not-functional site designed. The owner wants to use the design, but doesn't like drupal's layout which is more suited for blogs than a commercial venue. I offered to copy the drupal layout into HTML pages and solve the infamous drupal screen resizing problems. This also allows us to walk-around drupal on its other limitations such as custom templates not fitting standard modules. The problems getting drupal to output back IN to the HTML. I've no problem submitting the data correctly, but drupal always "wants" to output a full html page when all I want it to do is give me back the SQL data and some content.
When I use a FORM action I can direct drupal to another page, but this only works haphazardly, and I'd like a more seemless interaction with drupal NOT handling the HTML!
I really need some suggestions on this.
The drupal programmer went on VACATION with the contract still unfilled and now four months overdue. We are paying 250.00 a day in site expenses until I can solve this problem, allowing us to terminate the contract and apply for remunerations.
If it were not for the active and supportive drupal community, this programmer would have burned me forever - causing me to hate drupal. We bought the drupal book and I've been using it, and I'm slowly starting to like it, despite its limitations.
I've only been learning drupal for 45 days and have this dysfunctional site dropped in my lap so I've really got my hands full: deciding which directions to lead, reviewing whether to abandon the entire product, to continue using drupal, and so on. This is quite a headache. Has anyone else had this happen to them? What did you do?
My reaction after nearly 2 months at this, trying to squeeze more work out of a contractor, is to ditch drupal and use straight html with a shopping cart from our host company. I don't hate it, but it stands between us and commercial success.
D
Greg Knaddison - GVS Greg@GrowingVentureSolutions.com wrote:
On 8/10/06, Josh Milane wrote: > Wikipage > > I guess I am doing it wrong. Did you enable the correct access control for the module? > > I cant wrap my head around Drupal. It can be little confusing at first (as are all CMS/CBF), but gets easier and is well worth a little effort. Regards, Greg -- Greg Knaddison | Growing Venture Solutions Denver, CO | http://growingventuresolutions.com Technology Solutions for Communities, Individuals, and Small Businesses -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
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