I am new to Organic Groups, and I have a couple of basic questions. If anyone could help out it would be much appreciated.
1)
When I watched Zacker's famous OG tutorial video-cast, I noticed that when a new OG group is created, you can assign a mailing group name in the typical yahoogroup format, for example, xxx, which is then represented as xxx@mysite.com when the mail is sent out to group members. Just like in the
form: support@drupal.org has, which this mailing list itself belongs to.
Surely the drupal site is using a 6.x version flavor of Drupal, and this can be achieved in 6.x - but currently I don't see how it's done. Zacker did this when he created a new group? How can I achieve the same thing? I don't see a field where the unique group-name can be provided as input.
I was told to try and use the og2list module. However, I notice that og2list isn't available for any 6.x version. Is this feature possible using a related module or maybe I've overlooked some feature?
2)
When you create a new organic group, any messages sent from the organic group defaults to a mailing list style message. If I want the very same mail to appear both as a mail message sent to a group member and is also an identical forum message as well, how do I achieve that? I was told to try and use triggers/actions but I don't see exactly how this can be done.
3)
What is the relationship between OG forums and OG groups. Can anyone please explain the relationship/difference between the two?
Can someone also explain the difference between OG forums and regular forums?
4)
How do I have a one to one relationship between an OG group that's created and an OG forum? I understand OG sends out a mail messages to all members subscribed to an OG group. But I want the same mail message that's sent out to the OG group members to also identically appear as a forum message.
One to one relationship between OG group email message and OG forum message.
Is that possible?
5)
How do I associate only one OG group with only one OG forum? For each OG group that I create I want to have one and only one forum created.
Authenticated users will be creating groups/forums on the fly so I want to limit their scope for errors. How do I link between the two of them?
6)
Is it possible to moderate an OG group? In other words, any email message that is sent out under the group's name, is it possible to moderate the message if the group owner/administrator decides that this group member should be moderated?
Thanks,Moses
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Moses,
Lots of questions, I don't have much time now, but I thought a partial answer would at least make you feel like someone is listening.
FYI, OG is not what I would call a "beginners" module in Drupal. It's really complex, it's trying to do a lot and be very flexible which can make things confusing at times. If you could, I'd build a bunch of Drupal web sites without OG first before diving into OG. I appologize if you do already have a bunch of Drupal experience.
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Moses Elias iom@netvision.net.il wrote:
I am new to Organic Groups, and I have a couple of basic questions. If anyone could help out it would be much appreciated.
When I watched Zacker's famous OG tutorial video-cast, I noticed that when a new OG group is created, you can assign a mailing group name in the typical yahoogroup format, for example, xxx, which is then represented as xxx@mysite.com when the mail is sent out to group members. Just like in the
form: support@drupal.org has, which this mailing list itself belongs to.
Surely the drupal site is using a 6.x version flavor of Drupal, and this can be achieved in 6.x - but currently I don't see how it's done. Zacker did this when he created a new group? How can I achieve the same thing? I don't see a field where the unique group-name can be provided as input.
I was told to try and use the og2list module. However, I notice that og2list isn't available for any 6.x version. Is this feature possible using a related module or maybe I've overlooked some feature?
This list is, maybe ironically, is not Drupal connected in anyway. It uses Mailman software.
This tutorial might get you moving in the right direction: "Add Content to Your Site Via Email": http://drupal.org/node/200647
This wouldn't be a classic listserve. But it is possible to make a forum list serve like by using that tutorial, possibly in combination with a module like: http://drupal.org/watcher and/or http://drupal.org/comment_notify
That og2list module looks dead. Try to find some people who used it and what they changed to.
When you create a new organic group, any messages sent from the organic group defaults to a mailing list style message. If I want the very same mail to appear both as a mail message sent to a group member and is also an identical forum message as well, how do I achieve that? I was told to try and use triggers/actions but I don't see exactly how this can be done.
Moses, there are a lot of skills/experiences etc. you need to build a complex Drupal web site. Your requirements, from what I can tell, are complex. Should you decide on the triggers/actions approach to this problem -- there is often more than one way to solve a problem in Drupal --- start off by learning the skill to do something basic with it. A quick search turned up this tutorial... it's for Drupal 5 and uses the Workflow_ng module. There might be comments there or other links on how to do it in D6: http://drupal.org/node/175414
3)
What is the relationship between OG forums and OG groups. Can anyone please explain the relationship/difference between the two?
Can someone also explain the difference between OG forums and regular forums?
How do I have a one to one relationship between an OG group that's created and an OG forum? I understand OG sends out a mail messages to all members subscribed to an OG group. But I want the same mail message that's sent out to the OG group members to also identically appear as a forum message.
One to one relationship between OG group email message and OG forum message.
Is that possible?
How do I associate only one OG group with only one OG forum? For each OG group that I create I want to have one and only one forum created.
Authenticated users will be creating groups/forums on the fly so I want to limit their scope for errors. How do I link between the two of them?
Is it possible to moderate an OG group? In other words, any email message that is sent out under the group's name, is it possible to moderate the message if the group owner/administrator decides that this group member should be moderated?
Using the techniques described in the Tutorial above "publishing content via email" you create a content-type for this purpose, or use one that already exists, but make sure to set the default publishing mode to "unpublished." That is the start, at least, to an approach toward moderation. Again, there are lots of solutions to this, but that is the basic starting place.
As you move along and begin to break down the pieces... I've found that, either on the Drupal forums or list serves, and even IRC for that matter -- you are more likely to get helpful responses when the question is bite sized. That is indeed an overgeneralization, but it has generally been my experience.
Hang in there,
Shai
Thanks,Moses
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Quoting Moses Elias iom@netvision.net.il:
I am new to Organic Groups, and I have a couple of basic questions. If anyone could help out it would be much appreciated.
You probably want to review http://groups.drupal.org/taxonomy/term/1568 to familiarize yourself then.
When I watched Zacker's famous OG tutorial video-cast, I noticed that when a new OG group is created, you can assign a mailing group name in the typical yahoogroup format, for example, xxx, which is then represented as xxx@mysite.com when the mail is sent out to group members. Just like in the
form: support@drupal.org has, which this mailing list itself belongs to.
Haven't seen the video.
Surely the drupal site is using a 6.x version flavor of Drupal, and this can be achieved in 6.x - but currently I don't see how it's done. Zacker did this when he created a new group? How can I achieve the same thing? I don't see a field where the unique group-name can be provided as input.
The d.o and g.d.o sites are not yet on Drupal 6 that I know of. Many of the modules they use still need to be converted.
OG has many contributed modules, is what you're looking for in one of those modules?
I was told to try and use the og2list module. However, I notice that og2list isn't available for any 6.x version. Is this feature possible using a related module or maybe I've overlooked some feature?
Time to check the issue queue and create a patch if needed. Really, Drupal 6, while good isn't quite ready where modules are concerned; especially if you need them for production. That doesn't mean that you can't make the necessary changes yourself.
When you create a new organic group, any messages sent from the organic group defaults to a mailing list style message. If I want the very same mail to appear both as a mail message sent to a group member and is also an identical forum message as well, how do I achieve that? I was told to try and use triggers/actions but I don't see exactly how this can be done.
Don't know.
What is the relationship between OG forums and OG groups. Can anyone please explain the relationship/difference between the two?
A group is a wrapper around applications and a targeted data set. A forum is one of the applications.
Can someone also explain the difference between OG forums and regular forums?
I assume OG forums to use the forums module. The difference is a control for the set of data for the group.
How do I have a one to one relationship between an OG group that's created and an OG forum? I understand OG sends out a mail messages to all members subscribed to an OG group. But I want the same mail message that's sent out to the OG group members to also identically appear as a forum message.
The group administrator needs to create a forum for the group. The forum then belongs to the group.
One to one relationship between OG group email message and OG forum message.
I'm not sure I get it. The user subscribes to a group and can choose to receive email notices from the group. I haven't played with OG forum to know if you can separately subscribe to each forum or not.
Is that possible?
How do I associate only one OG group with only one OG forum? For each OG group that I create I want to have one and only one forum created.
Authenticated users will be creating groups/forums on the fly so I want to limit their scope for errors. How do I link between the two of them?
I'm not getting it. I think you want to just create a group and allow posting and commenting within that group and forget about the forum. Can you explain what you plan to use the forum for? How is it different from just posting stories to the group?
Is it possible to moderate an OG group? In other words, any email message that is sent out under the group's name, is it possible to moderate the message if the group owner/administrator decides that this group member should be moderated?
That is a possible workflow, yes.
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