Hi, I'm wanting to use Drupal for a site where a company will want to display it's projects. What we'd have would be photographs, image files that would contain a few photographs and some captions to explain things to the visitor obviously. I also want a tool for including image files in a posting. I've mentioned this on topics that were related but different, so I thought I'd write with a focus on using images. First is choosing the tools to use, the modules. Do I use just one? For example, I see a module for Gallery, one for Image and Image_assist, image import, and image_filter. Some of these seem like they would work not all alone but in conjunction with others. Some features that I'd like and which module seems to address it, are as follows: 1) allow batch uploading by the customer, on their site, of a zip or other compressed file, that will be unzipped by the system. 2) Allow captioning for each image 3) Add images to story/page/other nodes
Qquestion 1>So, #1 and #2 seem like they would be met by either Gallery, Image or Image Import. #3 maybe is what I would need for the inline images. But should I use Image or Gallery or Image Import but not both or all three? Is there another module worth considering? I'm just trying to get an idea how to not duplicate and confuse others by having two or more modules that do the same thing.
Question 2> referring to #3 above, I have image_assist installed but I'm not seeing where on the add/page or add/story forms I would see the place to include a photograph into the posting. Not to sound ignorant, but how does "Image Assist" assist a person adding a node with one or more photographs? I do see attach file but that's there without Image Assist. Please clear this up for me or help Sorry I'm so verbose... Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images? Thanks, Bruce
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On Sunday 05 February 2006 09:51 am, Bruce Whealton wrote:
Hi, I'm wanting to use Drupal for a site where a company will want to display it's projects. What we'd have would be photographs, image files that would contain a few photographs and some captions to explain things to the visitor obviously. I also want a tool for including image files in a posting. I've mentioned this on topics that were related but different, so I thought I'd write with a focus on using images. First is choosing the tools to use, the modules. Do I use just one? For example, I see a module for Gallery, one for Image and Image_assist, image import, and image_filter. Some of these seem like they would work not all alone but in conjunction with others. Some features that I'd like and which module seems to address it, are as follows:
- allow batch uploading by the customer, on their site, of a zip
or other compressed file, that will be unzipped by the system.
I don't think the Image module can do this, though I never really tried to. Based on the description, I'd try the image_import module, unless I were going with the full install of Gallery, but I don't know that it does it either.
- Allow
captioning for each image
The Image module does this.
- Add images to story/page/other nodes
I use Image Filter for this.
Qquestion 1>So, #1 and #2 seem like they would be met by either Gallery, Image or Image Import. #3 maybe is what I would need for the inline images. But should I use Image or Gallery or Image Import but not both or all three? Is there another module worth considering? I'm just trying to get an idea how to not duplicate and confuse others by having two or more modules that do the same thing.
I would start with the Image, Image Filter and image_import modules, first. Then, if they did not address the functionality I was looking for, I would try Gallery. The Gallery module is used to include the Gallery program and it's features in Drupal, so I would try the native Drupal stuff first.
Question 2> referring to #3 above, I have image_assist installed but I'm not seeing where on the add/page or add/story forms I would see the place to include a photograph into the posting. Not to sound ignorant, but how does "Image Assist" assist a person adding a node with one or more photographs? I do see attach file but that's there without Image Assist. Please clear this up for me or help Sorry I'm so verbose...
The Image Filter module allows the easy inclusion of pictures in other nodes, by using a special syntax: [Image:123] where 123==a node id. You can put that anywhere in the Body of the node, and the image will be placed there.
Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images?
I have not used the other modules, so I cannot say what their usefulness is.
I have recently used Image and Image Filter on this site: http://www.flattfamily.com/william/
I started to use the gallery features of image, then opted not to, as it did not flow with the way I was setting up the site.
On February 5, 2006 10:40 am, Jason Flatt wrote:
- allow batch uploading by the customer, on their site, of a zip
or other compressed file, that will be unzipped by the system.
I don't think the Image module can do this, though I never really tried to. Based on the description, I'd try the image_import module, unless I were going with the full install of Gallery, but I don't know that it does it either.
Gallery can definitely do this.
The Image Filter module allows the easy inclusion of pictures in other nodes, by using a special syntax: [Image:123] where 123==a node id. You can put that anywhere in the Body of the node, and the image will be placed there.
Interesting, I have never seen this module before. Seems like it does the same thing as img_assist, does it not?
Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images?
I have not used the other modules, so I cannot say what their usefulness is.
AcidFree sounds pretty good. Allows more flexibility on the look of the gallery I think.
Dave
Ok, how can I put this to explain some possible confusion. The Gallery module is to include the Gallery program and it's features into Drupal. Does that mean it does a full install of Gallery into my drupal install or it just hooks the Gallery program that I would install elsewhere? And it isn't native? I'm a bit confused on that.
David Grant david.grant@telus.net wrote: On February 5, 2006 10:40 am, Jason Flatt wrote:
- allow batch uploading by the customer, on their site, of a zip
or other compressed file, that will be unzipped by the system.
I don't think the Image module can do this, though I never really tried to. Based on the description, I'd try the image_import module, unless I were going with the full install of Gallery, but I don't know that it does it either.
Gallery can definitely do this.
The Image Filter module allows the easy inclusion of pictures in other nodes, by using a special syntax: [Image:123] where 123==a node id. You can put that anywhere in the Body of the node, and the image will be placed there.
Interesting, I have never seen this module before. Seems like it does the same thing as img_assist, does it not?
That's what I was thinking. Where would documentation exist for Image Filter and for Image Assist? Do both modules create a new node of image? So, that the photograph would be found just like any other node (story, page) node/nid#, I mean is that the same for both Image Filter and Image_Assist? Also, do not the modules create 3 different image sizes for each image imported? If so, how do I say I want an (or the) 85X85 image or the 200X200, for example? Can I say I want the image aligned left, right, center, etc?
Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images?
I have not used the other modules, so I cannot say what their usefulness is.
AcidFree sounds pretty good. Allows more flexibility on the look of the gallery I think.
Cool I'll check that out too. Thanks, Bruce
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On Tuesday 07 February 2006 06:36 am, Bruce Whealton wrote:
Ok, how can I put this to explain some possible confusion. The Gallery module is to include the Gallery program and it's features into Drupal. Does that mean it does a full install of Gallery into my drupal install or it just hooks the Gallery program that I would install elsewhere? And it isn't native? I'm a bit confused on that.
The module links the Gallery program to Drupal. I have never installed it, so I have no idea what level of functionality is included nor how the install is done for that particular combination. However, the modules I have installed that link functionality of other programs to Drupal usually either have you install the third party program normally or in a subdirectory of the module's subdirectory of the 'modules' subdirectory, i.e.: drupal-base-dir/modules/gallery/gallery/, where the first gallery is the module and the second one is the program. Normally, it's the latter. I'm sure the documentation has all the gory details for how to set it up.
Jason, This highlights a question I had about documentation. sure the documentation has all the gory details for how to set it up. In this example, and someone else may be able to help answer this, do you mean the documentation for Gallery the program or the use of the module Gallery? I recognize that you haven't used it but based on the knowledge that you do have of using drupal perhaps you can clarrify some things for me. 1) Do modules have documentation that can be found online, that isn't found on the page www.drupal.org/project/modules that is more than just a snippet and a real brief, this is how to install and configure it for starters. A module might say go to administration/settings to configure it. One is left wondering why they don't know how one might want to setup/configure a module for use on a site. 2) I might want to find out how to or even if I should use Gallery with other modules like Image, Image_filter, Image_assist, etc. Anyone have any tips on this? Bruce
drupal-base-dir/modules/gallery/gallery/, where the first gallery is the module and the second one is the program. Normally, it's the latter. I'm sure the documentation has all the gory details for how to set it up.
On Sunday 12 February 2006 10:16 am, Bruce Whealton wrote:
Jason, This highlights a question I had about documentation. sure the documentation has all the gory details for how to set it up. In this example, and someone else may be able to help answer this, do you mean the documentation for Gallery the program or the use of the module Gallery?
Both, but I would start with the module's docs, first.
I recognize that you haven't used it but based on the knowledge that you do have of using drupal perhaps you can clarrify some things for me.
- Do modules have documentation that can be found online, that isn't
found on the page www.drupal.org/project/modules that is more than just a snippet and a real brief, this is how to install and configure it for starters. A module might say go to administration/settings to configure it. One is left wondering why they don't know how one might want to setup/configure a module for use on a site.
Sometimes there is, but I think that is largely up to the module's author. Where you would see it is on the module's page, under the Resources section, labeled "Read documentation". See Img_assist's module page for a relevant example: http://drupal.org/project/img_assist
- I might want to find out
how to or even if I should use Gallery with other modules like Image, Image_filter, Image_assist, etc. Anyone have any tips on this? Bruce
The only ways that I know of, are asking on this mail list, searching and asking on drupal.org's forums, searching on the Internet in general (least likely, IMO), or just installing it into a scratch system for testing.
I had thought I had fixed the problem I was having with photographs/images in the profiles. The errors I got are shown below. Note, I disabled the image and image_assist modules. I don't know if that makes a difference or not, but I wanted to eliminate the possibility that an error and lack of a patch for those modules would effect an image I upload to my profile.. at my account... here is the page where I had this problem. See next line.
user/1/edit
Disabiling the image and image_assist modules is not to imply that I dropped any tables or actually removed the modules from the install. Does that matter? If I don't need to use a module should I be sure to remove the tables that were added when I installed a contributed module or is that not necessary?
I know someone sent me a patch and a link to an issue related to this that was reported at Drupal. It seemed to me that the patch was for the image or related module, not the basic profile pics.
After seeing below I hit the back arrow for my browser and there is the picture, but it's not constrained to 85X85 like it should be according to the settings I have. Please help, again sorry if this was addressed earlier, I just want to be sure it applies in this case where no contributed image module is being used or is enabled. Thanks, Bruce See below..
warning: imagecreatetruecolor(): Invalid image dimensions in/home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/image.inc on line 221. warning: imagecopyresampled(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in /home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/image.inc on line 222. warning: imagejpeg(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in /home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/image.inc on line 296. warning: imagedestroy(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource in /home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/image.inc on line 225. warning: Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/common.inc:384) in /home/brucew/public_html/StreetExposure/includes/common.inc on line 192.
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How do you specify on the page below, to use one size and then a larger size when someone clicks on a smaller thumbnail size?
Are those profile links, in other words names in the list of users for your site? Or is each name a node?
I had in mind something like this for a genealogy site and also on an alumni site. Either have each name be a node or have a way to display each name in the database of users, what do you think would be the best way to do that and how did you accomplish your site layout? Thanks, Bruce
The Image Filter module allows the easy inclusion of pictures in other nodes, by using a special syntax: [Image:123] where 123==a node id. You can put that anywhere in the Body of the node, and the image will be placed there.
Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images?
I have not used the other modules, so I cannot say what their usefulness is.
I have recently used Image and Image Filter on this site: http://www.flattfamily.com/william/
I started to use the gallery features of image, then opted not to, as it did not flow with the way I was setting up the site.
On Tuesday 07 February 2006 06:46 am, Bruce Whealton wrote:
How do you specify on the page below, to use one size and then a larger size when someone clicks on a smaller thumbnail size?
I didn't set anything specific, but left the defaults as they were. Once the image module is enabled, those settings can be changed here: admin/settings/image
Are those profile links, in other words names in the list of users for your site? Or is each name a node?
Actually all those name links are separate sites. They all share the same code but each one has a different database. I did have them all with different themes so that they all looked different, but it didn't really flow well when going from one site to another. My wife preferred the look I set up for William's site, so, I changed them all to the same theme.
I had in mind something like this for a genealogy site and also on an alumni site. Either have each name be a node or have a way to display each name in the database of users, what do you think would be the best way to do that and how did you accomplish your site layout? Thanks, Bruce
My original idea for the overall site was to have the front page of the parent site (http://www.flattfamily.com/) have a sort of genealogy graph linking all the names together and then have each name link to it's respective site. I'm not sure if that will materialize or not, as it seems to me that it will be a lot of work.
There is a Family module on the Drupal Web site that is supposed to provide some level of genealogy functionality, but it has /NO/ documentation and is not at all intuitive to use, so I haven't gone very far with it.
The Image Filter module allows the easy inclusion of pictures in other nodes, by using a special syntax: [Image:123] where 123==a node id. You can put that anywhere in the Body of the node, and the image will be placed there.
Q3> Should I consider other modules for working with or using images?
I have not used the other modules, so I cannot say what their usefulness is.
I have recently used Image and Image Filter on this site: http://www.flattfamily.com/william/
I started to use the gallery features of image, then opted not to, as it did not flow with the way I was setting up the site.
On Wednesday 08 February 2006 04:19, Jason Flatt wrote:
My original idea for the overall site was to have the front page of the parent site (http://www.flattfamily.com/) have a sort of genealogy graph linking all the names together and then have each name link to it's respective site. I'm not sure if that will materialize or not, as it seems to me that it will be a lot of work.
There is a Family module on the Drupal Web site that is supposed to provide some level of genealogy functionality, but it has /NO/ documentation and is not at all intuitive to use, so I haven't gone very far with it.
Have you looked at phpGedView? No Drupal integration (yet), but takes a gedcom file and any exibits you have and builds dynamic pages of graphs and reports and stuff.
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Hi all,' I've been meaning to write to ask if someone could better explain for me the use of the Drupal module. I know basically what it does but how would one link with other specific sites? Suppose I wanted to have 3 drupal installs of mine, in different locations all allow the users to login with one login for all 3 sites? How do I setup the Drupal core module to do this? Or to work with other drupal sites?
For ping, where is that set? Is it set by default to ping a specific site for the newsfeeds? Thanks, Bruce
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I've been meaning to write to ask if someone could better explain for me the use of the Drupal module. I know basically what it does but how would one link with other specific sites? Suppose I wanted to have 3 drupal installs of mine, in different locations all allow the users to login with one login for all 3 sites? How do I setup the Drupal core module to do this? Or to work with other drupal sites?
You are very likely better off setting up a "multi-site" with appropriately shared tables. Drupal ID (Drupal module) will require a login of the form: username@site-A.com when logging into site B and vice versa.
hth -K
I use the cPanel to install Drupal sites and have no limit on the databases that can be used. The shared database option, from what I read, was for sites where the number of databases is limited to a small number, correct? It seems easier to just setup different Drupal installs.
That being said, how can I build a "community" as it were with other sites? Suppose someone on the list, for example, had a site that had similar focus to a site of mine. How do we build an extended "community" or "Community Website(s)?" Specifically, I'm here referring to the use of the Drupal core module.
Are there other tools, aka modules for creating "community" sites, recognizing that indeed Drupal is made to be used in a "Community website?" Again this could be extended functionality within a single Drupal install or among other Drupal sites?
Also, I wanted to see about setting up the site to ping specific sites, similar to how a blog would do so, or any syndicated site? Are there a number of different sites that I might want to ping? And how do I tell Drupal, my drupal install(s), to ping these sites. Thanks in advance, Bruce
Karthik narakasura@gmail.com wrote:
I've been meaning to write to ask if someone could better explain for me the use of the Drupal module. I know basically what it does but how would one link with other specific sites? Suppose I wanted to have 3 drupal installs of mine, in different locations all allow the users to login with one login for all 3 sites? How do I setup the Drupal core module to do this? Or to work with other drupal sites?
You are very likely better off setting up a "multi-site" with appropriately shared tables. Drupal ID (Drupal module) will require a login of the form: username@site-A.com when logging into site B and vice versa.
hth -K
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I use the cPanel to install Drupal sites and have no limit on the databases that can be used. The shared database option, from what I read, was for sites where the number of databases is limited to a small number, correct? It seems easier to just setup different Drupal installs.
No, it basically allows you to use a single code-base to run multiple sites, using single/multiple databases, By _sharing_ appropriate database _tables_ you can make certain aspects common to all sites in your setup. You will also be able to share modules, or use specific modules for each site.
This effectively allows you to avoid duplication, provide centralised services and will make management a breeze (as you will effectively be managing only one install).
Are there other tools, aka modules for creating "community" sites, recognizing that indeed Drupal is made to be used in a "Community website?" Again this could be extended functionality within a single Drupal install or among other Drupal sites?
Also, I wanted to see about setting up the site to ping specific sites, similar to how a blog would do so, or any syndicated site? Are there a number of different sites that I might want to ping? And how do I tell Drupal, my drupal install(s), to ping these sites.
Drupal module in core, trackback module etc. Please have a browse through the modules page.
Lastly, I _highly_ recommend that you (search beforehand and) ask these questions on the fora. You will very likely get more opinions, along with examples and such..
hth -K
On Monday 13 February 2006 06:31 am, Bruce Whealton wrote:
That being said, how can I build a "community" as it were with other sites? Suppose someone on the list, for example, had a site that had similar focus to a site of mine. How do we build an extended "community" or "Community Website(s)?" Specifically, I'm here referring to the use of the Drupal core module.
Are there other tools, aka modules for creating "community" sites, recognizing that indeed Drupal is made to be used in a "Community website?" Again this could be extended functionality within a single Drupal install or among other Drupal sites?
Maybe you should check out CivicSpace: [0] http://civicspacelabs.org/home/
You might find it fits your needs, out of the box, better than a vanilla Drupal that is massively modified.
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