On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

As one of your learning methods I would suggest *Using Drupal*. http://www.amazon.com/Using-Drupal-Angela-Byron/dp/0596515804/ref=sr_1_1?ie=...

Ryan,

Thank you. I've spent a ton of money on software books over the years and have found too many to be obsolete by the time they hit the shelves because the software has changed from the version the author used.

Regardless, I'll take a look at it. I know my collection of Python books is still useful despite the advanced versions shipping with Slackware, so perhaps the Drupal book will still be useful, too, for version 6.19.

Rich

BTW That one specifically addresses Version 6 and I got a lot out of it.

Ryan LeTulle

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On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Ryan LeTulle bayousoft@gmail.com wrote:

You are buying the wrong books then. I suggest you read the description (specifically the version the book is written to address) and the reviews.

Ryan LeTulle

web www.bayousoft.com twitter www.twitter.com/bayousoft

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.comwrote:

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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

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As one of your learning methods I would suggest *Using Drupal*.

http://www.amazon.com/Using-Drupal-Angela-Byron/dp/0596515804/ref=sr_1_1?ie=...

Ryan,

Thank you. I've spent a ton of money on software books over the years and have found too many to be obsolete by the time they hit the shelves because the software has changed from the version the author used.

Regardless, I'll take a look at it. I know my collection of Python books is still useful despite the advanced versions shipping with Slackware, so perhaps the Drupal book will still be useful, too, for version 6.19.

Rich

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I doubt you'll find any structural difference between a "Page" and a "Book Page" as both are nodes. The default behaviour can be customized. By default the only real difference in behaviour is that a book page displays links to the next/previous pages in a book. A book is merely a collection of nodes assigned to a book. If you have the book module installed it is possible to assign a preexisting page to a book.

On Wed, 2010-09-15 at 19:09 -0500, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

BTW That one specifically addresses Version 6 and I got a lot out of it.

Ryan LeTulle

web www.bayousoft.com twitter www.twitter.com/bayousoft

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Ryan LeTulle bayousoft@gmail.com wrote: You are buying the wrong books then. I suggest you read the description (specifically the version the book is written to address) and the reviews.

    Ryan LeTulle

    web www.bayousoft.com
    twitter www.twitter.com/bayousoft







    On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 6:53 PM, Rich Shepard
    <rshepard@appl-ecosys.com> wrote:
            On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

            > As one of your learning methods I would suggest
            *Using Drupal*.
            >
            http://www.amazon.com/Using-Drupal-Angela-Byron/dp/0596515804/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1284594249&sr=8-1


            Ryan,

              Thank you. I've spent a ton of money on software
            books over the years and
            have found too many to be obsolete by the time they
            hit the shelves because
            the software has changed from the version the author
            used.

              Regardless, I'll take a look at it. I know my
            collection of Python books
            is still useful despite the advanced versions shipping
            with Slackware, so
            perhaps the Drupal book will still be useful, too, for
            version 6.19.


            Rich
            --
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To add my two cents. Avoid the book module. Everything it does can be done with a combination of cck, cck node reference and views. Doing it that way is much better supported.

We have a site with well over a thousand book pages and as a result have had major trouble exporting, importing or even using modules like deploy. If you use the combo mentioned about you can avoid those problems and get much better community support.

-- Travis Wooley

On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 9:33 PM, Rich Shepard rshepard@appl-ecosys.comwrote:

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Scott Holmes wrote:

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I doubt you'll find any structural difference between a "Page" and a

"Book

...

Page" as both are nodes. The default behaviour can be customized. By default the only real difference in behaviour is that a book page

displays

...

links to the next/previous pages in a book. A book is merely a

collection

...

of nodes assigned to a book. If you have the book module installed it is possible to assign a preexisting page to a book.

Scott,

Thank you. I have to think how the pages of the current site can best be organized within Drupal. And what capabilities might be worth adding.

Rich

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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

As one of your learning methods I would suggest *Using Drupal*.

Ryan,

I'd still appreciate a pointer to an example of a book page. :-)

Rich

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, John Saward wrote:

http://drupal.org/getting-started/before

Thanks, John.

Is that a book page rather than a page page because the links are embedded in the page itself rather than on a navigation menu along the side?

Rich

On Thu, 16 Sep 2010, John Saward wrote:

My understanding is that the handbooks at drupal.org, including the example http://drupal.org/getting-started/before, are implemented via the books module. The book module is part of core Drupal and its purpose is listed as "Allows users to structure site pages in a hierarchy or outline."

John,

I read that, but being new to the concepts I wanted to be clear on what the words mean within Drupal.

So to answer your question, the example is a book page because the management of the links between the pages and the embedding of those links into the pages is handled by the books module.

That makes it perfectly clear.

When we create content of type 'book page' we are asking the book module to manage the links for us.

And this makes it even more clear.

Thank you very much,

Rich

On Wed, 15 Sep 2010, Ryan LeTulle wrote:

Sorry, I was addressing more of a quick get up to speed tool I guess than directly answering your question. Glad you got the answer you were looking for.

Ryan,

That's certainly OK. What I need are ideas on how static pages of a professional services company (environmental consulting) can use Drupal to make the site more effective in attracting potential clients. I don't know of any examples, off hand, so I've no idea what's possible and what might be useful other than site search capabilities, occasional polls, and allowing visitors to comment on newsletters and other published documents (if that's even a good idea.)

Rich