Hello All: I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. I still have a lot to learn. I want to avoid using any additional modules. One of the requirements is to create a menu item called "News". This will display a page of all the available news for the site. I like to have the ability to create a news page granted for news editors. Similarly I need a "Services" item. Using taxomony and content types, this should be possible. Right ? for example, I created an vocabulary called "News" with one term only "default" to be applied to a page. Is there a way to create content type for news only ? and How to add this to the menu ?
Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?
I know only Drupal 6.X
Recepe 1: Without contrib modules:
- tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "news" - tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "service" - [use a different node type if want different behavior. Blog has submitted by on by default and breadcrumb has the name of the author; story also has submitted on by default, page doesn't etc.] - link to /taxonomy/term/number or /taxonomy/term/number/all - create a role for news editor and one for service editor - use roles and node permissions to restrict publishing function to these roles.
Disadvantage: the behavior of the overview page (river of news) which shows all news and service nodes is not very configurable. At least not without further ado.
Recepe2: Other method: use views and node types create node type "news" and "service" and use views2 to create an overview page.
Advantage: no tags necessary. Simplifies input for your editors. Disadvantage: you have install and learn contrib module views, but believe me sooner or later you will want to do this!
If you have time, try both ways.
you might also want to look at one of my first sites http://www.esem-music.org/ (recepe 1) and a later one of mine ( http://mimo-project.eu/, recepe 2)
best Maurice
---------------------------------------------- Maurice Mengel Music Archive Ethnological Museum National Museums in Berlin http://www.ilkar.de ---------------------------------------------
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alakeel@gmail.com
wrote:
Hello All: I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. I still have a lot to learn. I want to avoid using any additional modules. One of the requirements is to create a menu item called "News". This will display a page of all the available news for the site. I like to have the ability to create a news page granted for news editors. Similarly I need a "Services" item. Using taxomony and content types, this should be possible. Right ? for example, I created an vocabulary called "News" with one term only "default" to be applied to a page. Is there a way to create content type for news only ? and How to add this to the menu ?
Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?
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Maurice: Thank you. I appreciate the advice to play with both approachs. I think this is the best way to understand the core modules, and their limitations. I will use the first one, and keep in mind that I will have to follow the second one at some point. But for now I'd rather do the best I can with the core modules.
Here's what I understood between the comments.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Maurice Mengel mauricemengel@gmail.com wrote:
I know only Drupal 6.X
Recepe 1: Without contrib modules:
tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "news" tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "service"
In other words I need to create a taxonomy vocabulary "ie. catgories" and add the terms I need.
[use a different node type if want different behavior. Blog has submitted by on by default and breadcrumb has the name of the author; story also has submitted on by default, page doesn't etc.]
I am not concerned at this point about the bread crumbs. It's very simple site. But to keep things as simple as possible (until I get the picture), I like to use either Page or Story for the news. I understand Blog entery may be more approperiate "I don't know why", but If the two core content-types can do it, then this will be my preference.
link to /taxonomy/term/number or /taxonomy/term/number/all
I don't understand this part. Not yet there. But my hosting "Goddady" dones't allow clean urls. It might be possible to work around, but not a priority now. Do you mean here to add a menu item with the path ?
create a role for news editor and one for service editor use roles and node permissions to restrict publishing function to these roles.
I will look into the permissions when I construct the functionality I want.
Disadvantage: the behavior of the overview page (river of news) which shows all news and service nodes is not very configurable. At least not without further ado.
Basically the site is as simple as it gets. I am going to need the (river of news page), and I don't know how further ado I need. The second example you gave me is very close to what I need http://mimo-project.eu/. It's simple, and that's all I want at this point, as I am newbie to drupal. I may need to put a block on the first page showing the latest 3-4 news headlines. And a similar block for services .... etc.
the main items : Home - News - services - About - contact.
Nice to have, a single content type "News" that will appear later for the news editor. Again, I truly appreciate the advice to use both ways, and I think I will have to, and I have to learn the contrib module (I know now way around), but coming from different cms background, I want to know what does the basic offer, and how to get the most.
Thank you.
Recepe2: Other method: use views and node types create node type "news" and "service" and use views2 to create an overview page.
Advantage: no tags necessary. Simplifies input for your editors. Disadvantage: you have install and learn contrib module views, but believe me sooner or later you will want to do this!
If you have time, try both ways.
you might also want to look at one of my first sites http://www.esem-music.org/ (recepe 1) and a later one of mine (http://mimo-project.eu/, recepe 2)
best Maurice
Maurice Mengel Music Archive Ethnological Museum National Museums in Berlin http://www.ilkar.de
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alakeel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All: I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. I still have a lot to learn. I want to avoid using any additional modules. One of the requirements is to create a menu item called "News". This will display a page of all the available news for the site. I like to have the ability to create a news page granted for news editors. Similarly I need a "Services" item. Using taxomony and content types, this should be possible. Right ? for example, I created an vocabulary called "News" with one term only "default" to be applied to a page. Is there a way to create content type for news only ? and How to add this to the menu ?
Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?
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I understand your idea to look at core modules only. I think this is a good decision for learning purposes.On the other hand, drupal's wealth is its community and the modules. My comments to between lines
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 6:04 PM, Mansour Al Akeel <mansour.alakeel@gmail.com
wrote:
Maurice: Thank you. I appreciate the advice to play with both approachs. I think this is the best way to understand the core modules, and their limitations. I will use the first one, and keep in mind that I will have to follow the second one at some point. But for now I'd rather do the best I can with the core modules.
Here's what I understood between the comments.
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 12:40 PM, Maurice Mengel mauricemengel@gmail.com wrote:
I know only Drupal 6.X
Recepe 1: Without contrib modules:
tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "news" tag blog posts with the taxonomy term "service"
In other words I need to create a taxonomy vocabulary "ie. catgories" and add the terms I need.
[use a different node type if want different behavior. Blog has submitted
by
on by default and breadcrumb has the name of the author; story also has submitted on by default, page doesn't etc.]
I am not concerned at this point about the bread crumbs. It's very simple site. But to keep things as simple as possible (until I get the picture), I like to use either Page or Story for the news. I understand Blog entery may be more approperiate "I don't know why", but If the two core content-types can do it, then this will be my preference.
page and story are fine. Maybe you want to rename them to news and service
or not. Or you write instructions for your editors in the descriptions of these types.
link to /taxonomy/term/number or /taxonomy/term/number/all
I don't understand this part. Not yet there. But my hosting "Goddady" dones't allow clean urls. It might be possible to work around, but not a priority now. Do you mean here to add a menu item with the path ?
yes, menu entries should point to this path. Check if this works without
clean urls. I am not sure. If not, you have no way to point to overview-pages which list all nodes of this type. At least, I don't know any.
create a role for news editor and one for service editor use roles and node permissions to restrict publishing function to these roles.
I will look into the permissions when I construct the functionality I want.
Disadvantage: the behavior of the overview page (river of news) which
shows
all news and service nodes is not very configurable. At least not without further ado.
Basically the site is as simple as it gets. I am going to need the (river of news page), and I don't know how further ado I need. The second example you gave me is very close to what I need http://mimo-project.eu/. It's simple, and that's all I want at this point, as I am newbie to drupal. I may need to put a block on the first page showing the latest 3-4 news headlines. And a similar block for services .... etc.
maybe you consider the frontpage functionality for this "block". Requires
workflow settings with individual postings,i.e. not 100% what you specified. Frontpage is not very configurable without views. Alternative built-in block "Recent activity" or something with a similar name. Both functions come with core, if I remember correctly.
the main items : Home - News - services - About - contact.
Nice to have, a single content type "News" that will appear later for the news editor. Again, I truly appreciate the advice to use both ways, and I think I will have to, and I have to learn the contrib module (I know now way around), but coming from different cms background, I want to know what does the basic offer, and how to get the most.
Thank you.
Recepe2: Other method: use views and node types create node type "news" and "service" and use views2 to create an
overview
page.
Advantage: no tags necessary. Simplifies input for your editors. Disadvantage: you have install and learn contrib module views, but
believe
me sooner or later you will want to do this!
If you have time, try both ways.
you might also want to look at one of my first sites http://www.esem-music.org/ (recepe 1) and a later one of mine (http://mimo-project.eu/, recepe 2)
best Maurice
Maurice Mengel Music Archive Ethnological Museum National Museums in Berlin http://www.ilkar.de
On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 3:28 PM, Mansour Al Akeel mansour.alakeel@gmail.com wrote:
Hello All: I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. I still have a lot to learn. I want to avoid using any additional modules. One of the requirements is to create a menu item called "News". This will display a page of all the available news for the site. I like to have the ability to create a news page granted for news editors. Similarly I need a "Services" item. Using taxomony and content types, this should be possible. Right ? for example, I created an vocabulary called "News" with one term only "default" to be applied to a page. Is there a way to create content type for news only ? and How to add this to the menu ?
Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?
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Mansour Al Akeel wrote:
I just installed drupal and looking to get a website running. Any ideas or tutorials about how to proceed ?
I fumbled my way along with Drupal for 1.5+ years, and then "Using Drupal" came out:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515805/
I now have a much better understanding of what Drupal can and cannot do OOTB, and where to look to find answers. I recommend that you get a copy and work through the examples. I used one VMware virtual machine for each chapter; there are WAMP alternatives as well.
HTH,
David
David Christensen ha scritto:
I fumbled my way along with Drupal for 1.5+ years, and then "Using Drupal" came out:
http://oreilly.com/catalog/9780596515805/
I recommend this book, too. And if you want write some costum module buy "Pro Drupal Development Second Edition".
M.
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