Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!? So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions. Thanks
If the Views_UI module is not enabled, you won't see the menu item. Using a module makes sense in some cases, Views in others.
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Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!?
So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions.
If the Views_UI module is not enabled, you won't see the menu item.
You're right. Views_UI is not enabled. :-)
Using a module makes sense in some cases, Views in others.
Could you please elaborate a little bit more about the "cases"? :-) What do you use and why? If you use both, when you use Views, when you build a module?
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Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!?
So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
The list of reasons and that are enormous. A common one is that you get a view that does a horrible query and bogs down your database, so you decide to alter the query. Now you need a custom module for that, so why not go ahead and just do a custom module for whatever it is you're trying to produce? I always weigh out the needs of the site I'm building and rather I need views or not. If they want something as simple as a couple latest nodes from X type in a block, then I'll just do a quick, custom module. Why put all the weight of views in there, for something I can do in a couple dozen lines of code? But if I detect that this is going to be a client that wants to constantly make changes and that, then I'll go ahead and throw views in there. Having said that, this part basically becomes moot in Drupal 8, since views is in core. My best advice is look at the task at hand. If you're going to need a lot of custom views, then go ahead and use views. If you only need a couple of simple blocks, then Views is overkill, so long as you don't plan on changing things around a lot later. Of course if you do plan on changing things around, then you can covert your custom blocks to views relatively easy. Jamie Holly http://hollyit.net On 4/18/2014 3:46 PM, Drupal wrote:
If the Views_UI module is not enabled, you won't see the menu item.
You're right. Views_UI is not enabled. :-)
Using a module makes sense in some cases, Views in others.
Could you please elaborate a little bit more about the "cases"? :-) What do you use and why? If you use both, when you use Views, when you build a module?
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* Drupal <drupal@afan.net <mailto:drupal@afan.net>> ** Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!?
So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions.
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I think I got it. :-) Thanks guys. On Apr 18, 2014, at 5:00 PM, Jamie Holly <hovercrafter@earthlink.net> wrote:
The list of reasons and that are enormous. A common one is that you get a view that does a horrible query and bogs down your database, so you decide to alter the query. Now you need a custom module for that, so why not go ahead and just do a custom module for whatever it is you're trying to produce?
I always weigh out the needs of the site I'm building and rather I need views or not. If they want something as simple as a couple latest nodes from X type in a block, then I'll just do a quick, custom module. Why put all the weight of views in there, for something I can do in a couple dozen lines of code? But if I detect that this is going to be a client that wants to constantly make changes and that, then I'll go ahead and throw views in there. Having said that, this part basically becomes moot in Drupal 8, since views is in core.
My best advice is look at the task at hand. If you're going to need a lot of custom views, then go ahead and use views. If you only need a couple of simple blocks, then Views is overkill, so long as you don't plan on changing things around a lot later. Of course if you do plan on changing things around, then you can covert your custom blocks to views relatively easy. Jamie Holly http://hollyit.net On 4/18/2014 3:46 PM, Drupal wrote:
If the Views_UI module is not enabled, you won't see the menu item.
You're right. Views_UI is not enabled. :-)
Using a module makes sense in some cases, Views in others.
Could you please elaborate a little bit more about the "cases"? :-) What do you use and why? If you use both, when you use Views, when you build a module?
From: Drupal <drupal@afan.net>
Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!?
So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
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FYI and shameless plug: if you need custom data queries as suggested there are other options besides writing your own code. That's part of why I created http://drupal.org/project/forena Dave From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Drupal Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:48 AM To: Drupal Support Subject: [support] View vs. Module Hi to all, There is a website i nD7 handed over to me to continue to maintain. According what I saw in the admin area, looks like the previous admin was using modules rather than views for blocks and pages. What confused me is the view module is installed and activated but I can't see Views on the Structure page?!? So, I would like to hear here (different) opinion about Vews vs modules. I found this, very helpful page https://drupal.org/node/904120 and this one https://drupal.org/node/242311 and I think I pretty got a picture, but I would like some more opinions. Thanks
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