[consulting] General consultant's vent

[Victor Kane]

And the hourly rate of the proud winner of the Drupal 5 odesk certification
test, referred to in the referred associative tweet?
USD $19 / hour.

http://www.odesk.com/exams/Certified-HTML-Designers_24005

Victor Kane
http://awebfactory.com.ar

On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Victor Kane <victorkane at gmail.com> wrote:

> Correct, Laura, that is the way it should be.
> However, Kieran has written articles plugging the odesk certification and
> calling for help and opinions on it, in the paid Drupal services forum while
> speaking in an official capacity, to which we have made reference
> approximately a year ago on this mailing list.
>
> To show that is not a fluke, and that the odesk certification program,
> which seems to have replaced the "yellow jerseys" approach, check out
> twitter:
>
> http://twitter.com/amazonk/status/2529341418
>
> The Drupal Association wants there to be a certfication program, and moves
> actively towards getting it done.
>
> Would love to be wrong.
>
> Victor Kane
>  http://awebfactory.com.ar
>
>
> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Laura <pinglaura at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The Drupal Association does not provide certification, and has enough to
>> do already without getting involved in matters best handled by the community
>> at large.
>>
>> Laura
>>
>>
>> On Aug 6, 2009, at Thu 8/6/09 3:58pm, Victor Kane wrote:
>>
>>  Really fascinating how this whole thread starts out implicitly dealing
>>> with how to defend the interests of website application developers, and ends
>>> up identifying with how best to help the employers commoditize our services.
>>>
>>> For Kieran Lal, who is a great guy and a selfless Drupal activist, the
>>> answer, however, for the audience he is tuned towards is the hideously
>>> exploitative odesk (who control your screen while you work) which is "a
>>> great place to find certified and experienced Drupal talent." As I recall
>>> the Drupal Association had something to do with their "certification"
>>> program.
>>>
>>> http://www.odesk.com/users/?q=drupal  shows people offering Drupal
>>> services for USD $15 / hour.
>>>
>>> Couldn't find Kieran's article on the Drupal Association site anymore,
>>> but Google cache has it:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:3qt1i9jtm_wJ:association.drupal.org/node/398+kieran+odesk+site:association.drupal.org&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ar&lr=lang_en&client=firefox-a
>>>
>>> No, not a certification program. We need a union.
>>>
>>> Victor Kane
>>> http://awebfactory.com.ar
>>> http://projectflowandtracker.com
>>>
>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 6:42 PM, Domenic Santangelo <
>>> domenic at workhabit.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, Aug 6, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Kevin Stanek <kevins at qfeinc.com> wrote:
>>> Probably cuz thats just a bottomless, endless can of worms.  Look at your
>>> typical certification exams. [...]
>>>
>>> You guys are talking implementation details. Making sure MCSE-style
>>> silliness doesn't occur should be a goal, but it doesn't make sense to
>>> dismiss the concept because someone else did it in a way you don't like.
>>>
>>> -D
>>>
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