Hello world, is there someone else who likes? http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217 Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind. Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why? -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Op 31-aug-2006, om 12:42 heeft Dries Buytaert het volgende geschreven:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ 3 = "I can live with it"
It has a lot of white-space and looks very clean. I think it's a good theme for a new standard in drupal land.. Steef
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
Hi, I like it. Generally. It needs more contrast and so on, but i give 4+ Jakub Suchy
On Thu, 31 Aug 2006, Dries Buytaert wrote:
is there someone else who likes?
//www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ //drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
As the one who brought the base of this theme up, I would give 5 to it :) In case there is some spacing added between node contents and 'posted' information, plus the page is made fluid not fixed width. There are some other smaller issues, but it is very nice! Ps. do not forget to credit http://www.jdavidmacor.com/ the creator of the original template. Gabor
On 31 Aug 2006, at 12:59, Gabor Hojtsy wrote:
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
I give it a 4. With some additional tweaking, it could be a 5. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
I like it, but the header section needs work. The round Druplicon looks uncomfortable sitting on the pointed edge of the tabs. I am not saysing we'd need rounded tabs, though. Maybe move the tabs more to the right? currently: 3 Cheers, Gerhard
On 31.Aug.2006, at 07:00, Gerhard Killesreiter wrote:
Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world, is there someone else who likes? http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217 Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
I like it, but the header section needs work. The round Druplicon looks uncomfortable sitting on the pointed edge of the tabs. I am not saysing we'd need rounded tabs, though. Maybe move the tabs more to the right?
Some quick pointers: (1) How about float them all the way to the right? (2) I don't know what people have against Arial. Verdana is to lumpy a font for my taste. If not Arial, then Trebuchet (which is found in both Mac and PC) would be a better choice (to go with the logo's font). (3) Can't the font on the login block be a bit smaller (which is why I love the login tobbogan) (4) The post information should be flush with the title, not the content. It reads like content right now. it also should be smaller than the content font. Best, Liza Sabater, Publisher www.culturekitchen.com www.dailygotham.com TEL - 646.552.7365 AIM - cultkitdiva SKYPE - lizasabater
currently: 3
Cheers, Gerhard
On 8/31/06, blogdiva@culturekitchen.com <blogdiva@culturekitchen.com> wrote:
Some quick pointers:
(1) How about float them all the way to the right?
Sorry, I missed this, float what? (2) I don't know what people have against Arial. Verdana is to lumpy
a font for my taste. If not Arial, then Trebuchet (which is found in both Mac and PC) would be a better choice (to go with the logo's font).
Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans. (3) Can't the font on the login block be a bit smaller (which is why
I love the login tobbogan)
You shouldn't go messing with font sizes too much. Font preference is a user thing. What is too small for one is too big for another. 0.9em is about as small as you can get away with with out hurting peoples eyes. 0.85em Maybe... (4) The post information should be flush with the title, not the
content. It reads like content right now. it also should be smaller than the content font.
I don't know about smaller, but different color for sure. You should always seperate your "posted by" info from the actual story article. .node .submitted { color: #3a75b6; } Doesn't seem to look too bad. Personally, I'd go with #bbb, but others would say it's too light and un-readable. me.
Best, Liza Sabater, Publisher www.culturekitchen.com www.dailygotham.com
TEL - 646.552.7365 AIM - cultkitdiva SKYPE - lizasabater
currently: 3
Cheers, Gerhard
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans.
The beauty of CSS is the fact that you can specify a list of fonts. "Trebuchet, Verdana, Sans" is a nice cascade in order of preference. ;) --Jeff
On 8/31/06, Jeff Eaton <jeff@viapositiva.net> wrote:
Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans.
The beauty of CSS is the fact that you can specify a list of fonts. "Trebuchet, Verdana, Sans" is a nice cascade in order of preference. ;)
Really? </sarcasm> My point is consistancy across all browsers. :P smarty pants. --Jeff
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
On 31 Aug 2006, at 6:04 PM, Jeff Eaton wrote:
Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans.
The beauty of CSS is the fact that you can specify a list of fonts. "Trebuchet, Verdana, Sans" is a nice cascade in order of preference. ;)
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme : http://istyledthis.nl It's a couple of images, that he is going to be also providing in individual layers.. and I want to make use of farbtastic + imagemagick to alter the colours.
adrian rossouw wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
It's a couple of images, that he is going to be also providing in individual layers.. and I want to make use of farbtastic + imagemagick to alter the colours.
I really like.
adrian rossouw wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width).
Chris Johnson wrote:
adrian rossouw wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width).
I like it too. What is missing is Druplicon... Could be places at the top right corner. Cheers, Gerhard
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width).
I agree. I really like the direction that theme is going. Get a fluid layout and a bit more filled out and I could see that being a definite 5. Rob Roy Barreca Founder and COO Electronic Insight Corporation http://www.electronicinsight.com rob@electronicinsight.com Chris Johnson wrote:
adrian rossouw wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width).
Rob Barreca wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width).
I agree. I really like the direction that theme is going. Get a fluid layout and a bit more filled out and I could see that being a definite 5. Me too. I'd like to see just a bit more accent in the top, but that could probably be addressed by the addition of navigation buttons.
Gary
On 01 Sep 2006, at 00:55, Rob Barreca wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width). I agree. I really like the direction that theme is going. Get a fluid layout and a bit more filled out and I could see that being a definite 5.
What part of "don't side track the discussion" don't you understand? If you want to discuss an alternative theme, create a new thread. Please. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Good Morning! I have checked the site out and noticed that some of my suggestions have been taken into consideration, thank you very much. At the risk of pushing my luck though... here are a few more observations :) 1.) Too much padding now below login button. :) Before things were almost touching, now there is way too much padding between the login button and the Create new account text. 2.) Tabs are better! - Position though... Again, anyone can nit-pick this stuff, my suggestion would be to align the tabs with the content on the left. Either that, or you have to indent your "Submitted by" to have the same indention as your Tabs. You need a repeating convention to keep things linear and interesting. Otherwise that element just sits in the wind and flaps :) Solution: a. Keep tabs where they are, align "submitted by" with them by padding-left on .node .submitted b. Align tabs with main content. 3.) Search box... Needs more padding above it. It should be centered within the $site_name text otherwise, again it's an element that is out in the wind by itself. Every element you have on the page should correspond to something. It's a yen/yang thing. 4.) Blocks Something needs to go on here... it's not bad but... The problem with extra padding at the top for separation is.. you force the block down past the elements on the left. Do they HAVE to line up? Not really, but it sure does help with symmetry. maybe 10px more top padding might give the blocks the proper seperation they need, but I'm not sure. (don't have time to futz with it just now) 5.) Footer padding. Don't give in to Darth Moshe! heh. Keep the padding where it's enough to have the text breathe. Elements need to have proper whitespace, or else they die a hard death and we, the reader of content pay with strain on our eyes. I think that's enough feedback for now :) peace love and bananas.... Trae [The Artist Formerly KNOWN as occy] On 9/1/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
On 01 Sep 2006, at 00:55, Rob Barreca wrote:
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
Wow! That is nice. I'd give that 5+ if it could be semi-fluid (minimum and maximum widths, instead of fixed-width). I agree. I really like the direction that theme is going. Get a fluid layout and a bit more filled out and I could see that being a definite 5.
What part of "don't side track the discussion" don't you understand? If you want to discuss an alternative theme, create a new thread. Please.
Steven, that had to have left a bruise! :) --
Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
On 9/1/06, Trae McCombs <traemccombs@gmail.com> wrote:
1.) Too much padding now below login button. :) +1. Only needs a bit less mind
2.) Tabs are better! - Position though...
Solution: a. Keep tabs where they are, align "submitted by" with them by padding-left on .node .submitted +1 Needs a try.
3.) Search box... +1 Really does need more work. Drop it down onto the menubar and style the button as a menu link.
4.) Blocks A bit more padding above would be nice yes.
5.) Footer padding. More padding here too. Long live the whitespace.
And now for my own suggestions/faults 1.) Comment padding is inconsistant. Top comment has less them others 2.) Comment info needs separation like story info. Currently is difficult to separate from text 3.) Node info (submitted by...) perhaps could be closer to title in teasers. In order to associate it (and the title) as info rather then content. 4.) Would like the old drupalicon back :-(. This sites lost its identity. 5.) Possibly too much white space on comments. Possibly. would like to see it with less. Keep it up Adam
for what it's worth , personally I really love the direction stefaan is going with his theme :
It's a couple of images, that he is going to be also providing in individual layers.. and I want to make use of farbtastic + imagemagick to alter the colours.
*crawls out of his cave* Wow, that's fabulous. If we could glue this onto the XHTML frame Lullabot has, we'd have a winner for sure. It could also be changed around a bit as a base for Bluebeach II and the future reorganisation of Drupal.org. This is the sort of design that could become Drupal's Kubrick. It has my support for a code freeze exception for this theme. Steven Wittens
On 31.Aug.2006, at 12:00 PM, Trae McCombs wrote:
On 8/31/06, blogdiva@culturekitchen.com <blogdiva@culturekitchen.com> wrote: Some quick pointers:
(1) How about float them all the way to the right?
Sorry, I missed this, float what?
The navbar tabs. Floating tabs under the search bar may make the icon look 'more comfortable' :)
(2) I don't know what people have against Arial. Verdana is to lumpy a font for my taste. If not Arial, then Trebuchet (which is found in both Mac and PC) would be a better choice (to go with the logo's font).
Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans.
There is such a thing as ... ahem ... cascading of fonts in a stylesheet. No, really. You must try it sometime ;-) But I know nothing about free or distro'ed fonts ... BUT ... Trebuchet was one of the cascaded defaults in MovableType and WordPress. Just saying.
(3) Can't the font on the login block be a bit smaller (which is why I love the login tobbogan)
You shouldn't go messing with font sizes too much. Font preference is a user thing. What is too small for one is too big for another. 0.9em is about as small as you can get away with with out hurting peoples eyes. 0.85em Maybe...
Points (heh) taken. And there is something wonky with the alignment.
(4) The post information should be flush with the title, not the content. It reads like content right now. it also should be smaller than the content font.
I don't know about smaller, but different color for sure. You should always seperate your "posted by" info from the actual story article.
My choice would be to get it closer to the title.
.node .submitted { color: #3a75b6; }
Different color, yes. I still think links and post info should be a point smaller than the body of the post :) Which is why we can't style in committee, can we ;) I don't have a problem with the color of the post but #666 could be a good substitute to black. /liza
My only requirement for font sizes is that the user can scale them. We have a large older community that really must increase almost all font sizes every seen on any site to be able to read them. I am a fan of the now non-supported fontsize module just for this reason. The requirement for scalability means that a given site should not be too far from what is normal on most sites so they don't have to be adjusted for each site and should not have too large a range of sizes in the design. Small fonts for copyright, etc. are ok. but not for things the averare user deals with every time they visit the page. _____ From: development-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Trae McCombs Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 12:00 PM To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] possible theme? On 8/31/06, blogdiva@culturekitchen.com <blogdiva@culturekitchen.com> wrote: Some quick pointers: (1) How about float them all the way to the right? Sorry, I missed this, float what? (2) I don't know what people have against Arial. Verdana is to lumpy a font for my taste. If not Arial, then Trebuchet (which is found in both Mac and PC) would be a better choice (to go with the logo's font). Non-free. We should stick with things that show up on all systems, like Linux. MS Trebuchet isn't a free font nor distro'ed. Personally I say stick with Sans. (3) Can't the font on the login block be a bit smaller (which is why I love the login tobbogan) You shouldn't go messing with font sizes too much. Font preference is a user thing. What is too small for one is too big for another. 0.9em is about as small as you can get away with with out hurting peoples eyes. 0.85em Maybe... (4) The post information should be flush with the title, not the content. It reads like content right now. it also should be smaller than the content font. I don't know about smaller, but different color for sure. You should always seperate your "posted by" info from the actual story article. .node .submitted { color: #3a75b6; } Doesn't seem to look too bad. Personally, I'd go with #bbb, but others would say it's too light and un-readable. me. Best, Liza Sabater, Publisher www.culturekitchen.com www.dailygotham.com TEL - 646.552.7365 AIM - cultkitdiva SKYPE - lizasabater
currently: 3
Cheers, Gerhard
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries@buytaert.net> wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
I think it's nice. Stefans comment about white space is right on the money, it really helps break things up. The use of icons is great (casting aside GPL issues). Blue is good. IMO: * The placement of the search box doesn't fit. It needs to live somewhere else. Perhaps on the primary links toolbar? (i.e. move it down some notches). * How are secondary links going to be displayed. This needs consideration. * A GPL icon set needs to be carefully chosen. Fedora is developing new icons for core6, quite frankly they are gopping. VERY careful consideration needed when choosing a replacement set. * Gerhard is right about the round icon v.s. tabs. Needs work. * Perhaps two versions could be supplied (or a setting) for fixed width and fluid. If a setting is used why not go the whole hog and allow the user to choose the width. * More thought needs to go into the relative text sizes of node content and post info./taxonomy info. Perhaps a bit smaller? Just a start though. I'm sure I'll think of more. Overall "3.5"
On 8/31/06, Adam Cooper <adam.j.cooper@gmail.com> wrote:
* The placement of the search box doesn't fit. It needs to live somewhere else. Perhaps on the primary links toolbar? (i.e. move it down some notches).
See: http://www.yehudakatz.com/ for a good way of integrating search as a navigation tool rather then a separate entity.
This theme is awesome! A few minor bugs that come to mind, though: - spacing between node info and nody body: definitely needs fixing. - the 'user login' block (i.e. the top block on the left) needs to be in line with the mission statement (i.e. the top of the main content area). - the primary links look very uncomfortable perched on that blue line ATM: gives the impression that there's a CSS bug (although I assume there isn't). They need to be aligned with the bottom border line better, they need to match the border line's colour better, and they could probably use a bit more spacing between each link as well. - the footer area seems a bit incongruous with the rest of the theme: the filled-in pastel blue rectangle thing looks like a hangover from bluemarine. Perhaps we could make the footer background a bit lighter, or just give it a top border instead of a background colour? Or perhaps it just needs some rounded corners. - perhaps we should move the search bar down, so that it's perched on the right-most end of the line? Overall, I give it 4. This would make for a fantastic new 4.8 default theme. Cheers, Jaza. On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries@buytaert.net> wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
-- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217 This theme is awesome! A few minor bugs that come to mind, though:
And please, make it liquid. -1 for any non-liquid admin theme. As for generic feelings about it, I'm roughly a 2. It doesn't look much more than a white page with pretty buttons. Everything else is boring, and the buttons are absolutely hideous - they look like badges, not buttons. Definitely not something I'd intend to click on. -- Morbus Iff ( you shouldn't have come here ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus
On 31 Aug 2006, at 14:30, Morbus Iff wrote:
And please, make it liquid. -1 for any non-liquid admin theme.
Reminder: as mentioned in my post; let's not talk about this now. Let's focus on the aesthetics and brand. We'll worry about the implementation later (if there is consensus). -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Main text color should stay as it is, otherwise it'll lose the affect. I disagree about secondary nav, it should go directly under Primary navigation IMHO. Some notes... IE6: 1.) User Icons and "Clock" icons are squished. Probably don't have height set for IE or something. icon_clock_blue.gif and icon_user.gif 2.) Padding between #page and #container is different on IE6 than FF/Win [haven't checked FF/Linux yet, installing gentoo atm heh] 3.) spacing between Search and top of page not the same as it is in FF. Needs more in IE. ... Also, needs more spacing between "Login" button and "Create new account" text IMHO. Trae On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006, at 14:30, Morbus Iff wrote:
And please, make it liquid. -1 for any non-liquid admin theme.
Reminder: as mentioned in my post; let's not talk about this now. Let's focus on the aesthetics and brand. We'll worry about the implementation later (if there is consensus).
-- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
Liquid vs. fixed is another discussion, but I agree with your opinions, 2+ from me.... Morbus Iff wrote:
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217 This theme is awesome! A few minor bugs that come to mind, though:
And please, make it liquid. -1 for any non-liquid admin theme.
As for generic feelings about it, I'm roughly a 2. It doesn't look much more than a white page with pretty buttons. Everything else is boring, and the buttons are absolutely hideous - they look like badges, not buttons. Definitely not something I'd intend to click on.
I like it. I agree with Morbus' feelings about the liquid design; at *least* on admin pages, it would be great if we could let things expand and shrink as needed. Rating-wise? 4 out of five as "A new included theme." 3 out of five for "new default theme." The elements of Bluemarine that I think are very distinctive, and feel very 'Drupal-like,' are darker headers and sidebars, a lighter content area, and links on the right of the header. It makes one feel like the content has been 'framed' by the header and blocks, whereas open themes like this one feel as if the blocks and header are 'tagged on' to the content. That's not BAD -- I like the theme a LOT. But it feels more like 'The awesome replacement for Chameleon' than bluemarine. I would absolutely thumbs-up it for inclusion, though. --Jeff
Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
3. I'd like to see additional features like user picture and forum overview book navigation and pager. why it isn't a 5 - footer has too much background color - legibility of primary navigation tabs - not so pretty styling of submit buttons like 'search' an 'login'.
On 8/31/06, Moshe Weitzman <weitzman@tejasa.com> wrote:
>
> > http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/
> > http://drupal.org/node/81217
> 3. I'd like to see additional features like user picture and forum
> overview
> book navigation and pager.
>
> why it isn't a 5
> - footer has too much background color
Too much color!!!??? ;) jk. I think it looks Ok... what would you suggest
Moshe?
- legibility of primary navigation tabs
Yeah, this bothers me too... they feel... I don't know, squished.
- not so pretty styling of submit buttons like 'search' an 'login'.
>
The flat styling is OK. better than default that's for sure.
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Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com
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On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:31, Trae McCombs wrote:
- legibility of primary navigation tabs
Yeah, this bothers me too... they feel... I don't know, squished.
Yep, just (i) add some padding -- especially on the left and right of the text -- and (ii) increase the font size of the tabs a little bit. :)
- not so pretty styling of submit buttons like 'search' an 'login'.
The flat styling is OK. better than default that's for sure.
I agree. The flat styling makes for a nice touch -- it's part of the design. I think it is OK to fiddle with spacing, but I think we should avoid changing the colors and style elements. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Hey bud... who is putting all these suggestions together? Are Ted and Jeff monitoring things and incorporating suggestions? I'd hate to see all this feedback just go to waste if no one is actually acting on it. Peace love and bananas. Trae On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:31, Trae McCombs wrote:
- legibility of primary navigation tabs
Yeah, this bothers me too... they feel... I don't know, squished.
Yep, just (i) add some padding -- especially on the left and right of the text -- and (ii) increase the font size of the tabs a little bit. :)
- not so pretty styling of submit buttons like 'search' an 'login'.
The flat styling is OK. better than default that's for sure.
I agree. The flat styling makes for a nice touch -- it's part of the design.
I think it is OK to fiddle with spacing, but I think we should avoid changing the colors and style elements.
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On 8/31/06, Moshe Weitzman <weitzman@tejasa.com> wrote:
- footer has too much background color Too much color!!!??? ;) jk. I think it looks Ok... what would you suggest Moshe? too much padding, which leads to too much blue. my .02
"Whitespace" is a good thing. If you don't pad things properly, they become too hard to read. -- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
Trae McCombs wrote:
On 8/31/06, Moshe Weitzman <weitzman@tejasa.com> wrote:
- footer has too much background color Too much color!!!??? ;) jk. I think it looks Ok... what would you suggest Moshe? too much padding, which leads to too much blue. my .02
"Whitespace" is a good thing. If you don't pad things properly, they become too hard to read.
i might have misspoke. in my browser, the blue square around the footer text is too big IMO. not sure how else to express that.
Just a thought, but it would be nice to see a new suite of themes bundled up for 4.8. Not only is bluemarine showing its age but so are Marvin and Pushbutton. An idea would be to have one default (the eye candy theme i.e. deliciously blue). One basic, easy to alter theme (i.e. chameleon, box grey) and a couple of the top rated ones from contrib, then your covering all bases. Adam
On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:31, Adam Cooper wrote:
Just a thought, but it would be nice to see a new suite of themes bundled up for 4.8. Not only is bluemarine showing its age but so are Marvin and Pushbutton.
An idea would be to have one default (the eye candy theme i.e. deliciously blue). One basic, easy to alter theme (i.e. chameleon, box grey) and a couple of the top rated ones from contrib, then your covering all bases.
Please don't side-track the discussion. Wait one or two more days, or create a new thread. The purpose of this thread is to rate http:// www.drupalart.org/drupal48/. Thanks. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
Can you please add (or approve) a couple of nested comments. How the comments look are important to some site admins/designers. On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:31, Adam Cooper wrote:
Just a thought, but it would be nice to see a new suite of themes bundled up for 4.8. Not only is bluemarine showing its age but so are Marvin and Pushbutton.
An idea would be to have one default (the eye candy theme i.e. deliciously blue). One basic, easy to alter theme (i.e. chameleon, box grey) and a couple of the top rated ones from contrib, then your covering all bases.
Please don't side-track the discussion. Wait one or two more days, or create a new thread. The purpose of this thread is to rate http:// www.drupalart.org/drupal48/. Thanks.
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On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
Please don't side-track the discussion. Wait one or two more days, or create a new thread. The purpose of this thread is to rate http:// www.drupalart.org/drupal48/. Thanks.
I consider myself told. It won't happen again ;) As repentance consider this http://adam.j.cooper.googlepages.com/home (Click the image to expand)
Adam Cooper wrote:
On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
Please don't side-track the discussion. Wait one or two more days, or create a new thread. The purpose of this thread is to rate http:// www.drupalart.org/drupal48/. Thanks.
I consider myself told. It won't happen again ;)
As repentance consider this http://adam.j.cooper.googlepages.com/home
I especially like your 'submitted by' line, and you have vastly improved the spacing, IMO. You should post these changes to the issue thread http://drupal.org/node/81217 as well because the actual code could be beneficial! I'm NOT fond of the out of focus druplicon in the background, it looks like an ink smear to me at first.
On Thu, 2006-08-31 at 16:14 +0100, Adam Cooper wrote:
On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries.buytaert@gmail.com> wrote:
Please don't side-track the discussion. Wait one or two more days, or create a new thread. The purpose of this thread is to rate http:// www.drupalart.org/drupal48/. Thanks.
I consider myself told. It won't happen again ;)
As repentance consider this http://adam.j.cooper.googlepages.com/home
(Click the image to expand)
I like the search box and left justified links in the user login block much better.
Dries Buytaert wrote:
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
I give it a 4. It appears clean and light. It certainly continues the brand of BlueMarine. If that's what is wanted, this is a good replacement. The icons are nice, although the "error" red "do not proceed" shield is too big compared to the rest of the theme. One problem is that the droplet is glaringly an incompatible color with the rest of the blues in the color scheme. I'd suggest changing one or the other to match hue values better. I am not sure if this is an XHTML/CSS comment or not: I am forced to horizontally scroll in my default browser window. I hate that.
On Thursday 31 August 2006 06:42, Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
On the plus side, as a fan of "lean and clean" themes, it fits that model nicely. The buttons look a lot like some of the default KDE and GNOME themes, which will make Linux users happy. The comments others have made about it being "boring" don't concern me at all. I *like* "boring" in a default theme, because when I am installing a new site what I most want right away is just go get it up and running. I don't want to have a complex theme that might break for some modules (such as AcidFree or other photo albums, live chat modules, etc.) that have special layout needs. Let me get online with a basic theme, start creating my content and menus and such, and I'll tweak the cosmetics later. (Especially in a team environment, it is very useful to get the functionality working first and let the theme guru play at their leisure while content mavens get to work creating pages.) Content is king. My one significant complaint is the fixed-width layout. When, oh when, will web designers learn that web != paper? I know all the stuff publishing pros say about line length and readability. But let that be the *user's* choice, by appropriately sizing their browser window. Don't mandate a narrow column width as a hardwired feature of the site; let the browser wrap the text as needed. With a variable-width main content area, the user who loves a newspaper-like narrow column has only to shape his or her browser window accordingly. Other than that one issue, I like it overall. Score: 3 If the theme becomes variable-width, or if (as someone else suggested) the fixed/variable width is an admin option, I'd bump that up to a 4. Scott -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Syscrusher (Scott Courtney) Drupal page: http://drupal.org/user/9184 syscrusher at 4th dot com Home page: http://4th.com/
Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
4 Comments: - I agree with the comments about the Drupal icon colour vs. the rest, and the footer looking out of place. - No one has asked what it looks like with three columns, surely a default theme has to do three columns. - I would like darker text, the light coloured text was a fad a couple of years ago. I did one like that myself! - Where does secondary navigation go? I would favour to the left of the search box. -- Martin Tomes echo 'martin at tomes x org x uk'\ | sed -e 's/ x /\./g' -e 's/ at /@/' Visit http://www.subversionary.org/
Its tidy. -user block needs to be themed to be left justified to give an illusion of a line along the left hand side - right now its a bit 'jaggy' -the header needs a bit more weight to anchor the page - its a bit too free floating - perhaps a pretty picture up there.... Hmmmmm.... who in the drupal community - ummmm - someone with a real passion for drupal... uhhh... a great deal of education... a good eye... who happens to take pretty amazing photographs... could contribute a few candidate images to the creative commons to help stimulate a sexy theme... *cough* Dries andre
I'm also willing to donate any photography of mine if someone would like to use it in a core Drupal theme. http://www.flickr.com/photos/jeffeaton/ has a large-ish backlog of nature photography, some urban stuff, etc. --Jeff
-----Original Message----- From: Andre Molnar [mailto:mcsparkerton@yahoo.co.uk] Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 9:42 AM To: development@drupal.org Subject: Re: [development] possible theme?
Its tidy. -user block needs to be themed to be left justified to give an illusion of a line along the left hand side - right now its a bit 'jaggy'
-the header needs a bit more weight to anchor the page - its a bit too free floating - perhaps a pretty picture up there....
Hmmmmm.... who in the drupal community - ummmm - someone with a real passion for drupal... uhhh... a great deal of education... a good eye... who happens to take pretty amazing photographs... could contribute a few candidate images to the creative commons to help stimulate a sexy theme... *cough* Dries
andre
On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:50, Jeff Eaton wrote:
I'm also willing to donate any photography of mine if someone would like to use it in a core Drupal theme.
Same here. Take a look at http://www.focusonnature.be
On 31 Aug 2006, at 16:41, Andre Molnar wrote:
Hmmmmm.... who in the drupal community - ummmm - someone with a real passion for drupal... uhhh... a great deal of education... a good eye... who happens to take pretty amazing photographs... could contribute a few candidate images to the creative commons to help stimulate a sexy theme... *cough* Dries
Thanks for the compliment, but let's not side-track this discussion. If you want to do a call for photographs, create a new thread. It's a separate topic. Thanks. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/
On 31.Aug.2006, at 06:42, Dries Buytaert wrote:
is there someone else who likes?
I think it's gorgeous. It's got brand and still works like a wireframe. It also has all the elements needed for easy customization. I love it and will use it for my next design project. Liza Sabater, Publisher www.culturekitchen.com www.dailygotham.com TEL - 646.552.7365 AIM - cultkitdiva SKYPE - lizasabater
On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries@buytaert.net> wrote:
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
.2 cents time! ;) My score: 3 Personal issues with the current version: - left-align login block - align top of first left block with mission statement or page title - need active primary link to visibly change to an "active" state (Home link should be highlighted on home page, etc) - footer should not have background color.. no where else on the page does - main text contrast could be improved (there are some guidelines somewhere for accessibility with regards to contrast) - breadcrumbs are floating in space. need to be somewhere else that feels more solid. - comments area could be highlighted or separated or contrasted more from the node body. - definition lists (ie. node/add) could have smaller left margins. -Rowan
I give it a 4.8 out of 5 :o) Comments: 1) Posted......by....in.... text above the actual articles blends into the article too much, hard to tell where it stops/begins. And I don't like the inline icon there, is looks more like a indent for some reason 2) Buttons are too squished, both inner padding and the spacing between them needs to be increased, also, have you considering hanging the buttons below the artistic line there, instead of above? 3) Forgotten password and account creation links under the login field look odd centered with their bullet points flush left. Overall, it's really nice, and definitely 1,000 times better than bluemarine. And, it does carry on the "brand well". Good work! Robin On 8/31/06, Dries Buytaert <dries@buytaert.net> wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
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I give it a 4. ++ minimal, lots of open whitespace. minimal noise(no crazy gradiant backgrounds or rounded corners. clean room feel. -- The colors for the text are washy on my lcd, they could be a bit darker. lose the folder icon by create content, the menu isn't a file system I get the wrong impression. Font maybe needs to be a little bigger in relation to the line spacing. .darrel.
31 aug 2006 kl. 12.42 skrev Dries Buytaert:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Just a few quick notes: Please change the body text alignment from justified (where both the right and the left edges are straight/aligned/whatever) to left align. Otherwise wierd whitespace will occur (since there is no hyphenation). I would make the body text a bit darker, but not necessarily black. Please match the blue color of the top header with the druplicon and the tabs. It should be a bit bigger too. Icons... I don't know. They somewhat spoils the cleanness of the page. If they had less colors in them they would blend in better. I actually like the fixed width, but the content column is too wide right now. (Each row contains roughly 95 characters which is too much. I'd say 80 would be better.) Providing both fixed and fluid is a good thing. Other than that, I agree with a lot of what has been said in this thread although I haven't read all of it. I guess my rating right now would be a strong 3 but that can easily change to 4. (And that's good. A 5-rated theme would problably not be a good default theme, it's hard to make really good design for such a general purpose IMO.) /Hannes // zoo33
At 12:42 PM +0200 31/8/06, Dries Buytaert wrote:
Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates.
I give it a 2 for usability: Light grey text and light blue text on a white background means I simply can't read this page. I would have to apply a user style sheet I keep in reserve to force text to black and backgrounds to white. I only apply this to sites with ultra-compelling content... usually I go back to Google and try another search result. The buttons offer no feedback when rolled-over and they don't look like buttons. This is a fatal interface flaw which would cripple any site used by inexperienced users. And I give it a 3 for aesthetics and branding: There are a number of different blues used throughout the site. This needs to be standardised. I assume there's the option for a third column but no blocks have been placed in it? I guess other people with better design skills have covered the other inconsistencies and flaws already :) ...R.
Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why? I'll rate it 3.1, marginally better than what we have now.
The problem I have with the aesthetics of the color scheme and brand is that it's a washed-out blue, make me think of a ten year old car that was a pretty blue when new, but has spent too much time in the sun, thus fading into old age. The tan line on the logo just makes this worse. It's a color scheme that only works for jeans, but I don't see Drupal acquiring a denim-textured background image. One low-level point that I have yet to see anyone raise is the use of boldface for the links in the sidebars. The purpose of boldface is to stand out from surrounding text, which is pointless if there is no surrounding text (as on the left sidebar). The boldface is harder to read (fonts are tuned for their normal weight, not bold), looks like crayon (i.e. targeted to children), and causes the navigation menus to take up too much vertical space, reducing what appears above the fold (a real problem on the handbook pages). I'm not fond of bold face in any case - it reminds me of trashy junk mail -- but at least it's somewhat justifiable in the center content. I can't see any justification for it in the sidebars. (If I could make one, and only one change to the Drupal.org style sheet today, it would be to add ".sidebar a { font-weight: normal;}".) On the plus side, I like the simplicity and the cleanness. The headers feel like they have the have the right size ration compared to the ordinary text, Verdana is much easier to read (especially for proofreading), justified text is easier to read (though they take more effort), the layout spacing is good, though the spacing between elements doesn't get the affinities right. May I suggest replacing the Latin with something that most of us could read for real? Perhaps copying some text from the handbook? The Latin Lorem tradition seems to come from the school of thought that's more concerned with the high level visual design than with other usability factors like readability. English text would make it easier to judge the readability of the design. Just my $0.02, Gary
On Thursday 31 August 2006 05:42, Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
Well, I'm replying before I read the 100 or so replies to this thread that I've not gotten to yet (eeeek!), but in Konquer 3.5, the site is completely broken. The tabs are empty outlines. Every block takes up the entire width of the page. The background of everything is white. Next up, all the light blue links are on a white background, and the contrast is way too low. It's hard for me, with halfway decent eyes and a good monitor, to read the link text. On a scale of 1-5, -2. -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
Hey Larry. That may have been me accidentally fiddling with the live site a minute ago... --- Larry Garfield <larry@garfieldtech.com> wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 05:42, Dries Buytaert wrote:
Hello world,
is there someone else who likes?
http://www.drupalart.org/drupal48/ http://drupal.org/node/81217
Personally, I think it makes for the best candidate so far. It looks like bluemarine's pretty sister, and is what I had in mind.
Let's avoid talking about the underlying XHTML/CSS: we'll worry about that in step #2. Instead, let's talk about the aesthetics, the brand and the message this theme communicates. On a scale from 1-5 (1 = "Argh, it hurts my eyes", 3 = "I can live with it", 5 = "Exactly what we need"), what rating would you give this design (not its XHTML/CSS) and why?
Well, I'm replying before I read the 100 or so replies to this thread that I've not gotten to yet (eeeek!), but in Konquer 3.5, the site is completely broken. The tabs are empty outlines. Every block takes up the entire width of the page. The background of everything is white.
Next up, all the light blue links are on a white background, and the contrast is way too low. It's hard for me, with halfway decent eyes and a good monitor, to read the link text.
On a scale of 1-5, -2.
-- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012
"If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
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On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:37, Farsheed wrote:
Hey Larry. That may have been me accidentally fiddling with the live site a minute ago...
Ah, now it looks non-wacky. This is why one doesn't play with live sites, folks! :-) (He says having done so himself for smaller sites a lot lately...) Comments: - I DO consider fixed-with an aesthetic issue and therefore relevant here, and I hate the fixed with design. My Konqueror windows by default open to only about 2/3 of my 1024x768 screen. I only just barely get the full width of the body text (by about a pixel), and can't see the right sidebar at all. If I maximize the window, the gutters on the side feel wasted. - I'd like to see how it handles block on both sides. - The left-aligned block content on the right makes it look too wide. The effect is of the block region being mis-sized, a bug I've gotten often in my own themes. :-) - The primary menu looks like it's dropped down below the horizontal line somewhat. However, the way it overlaps, at least on my screen, makes it look like an alignment error rather than intentional. It feels choppy. - The primary menu links are styled to look like form buttons. They're not form buttons, but they look like it. That makes it very jarring when they don't behave like buttons. It also looks very out of place to have six form buttons just floating randomly at the top of the page (see previous point). - The search box is floating in the middle of nowhere in a huge sea of white. It's very out of place. - The icons are cool. - Pale blue text on white gives poor contrast, particularly the smaller text links in the sidebar. I have to squint at the "create new account" link. - The Drupal title gets an underline when I hover over it. That's fine for body text, but for the title it feels like a detail that was missed in a quick and cursory design. It lacks polish and feels amateur. - The dark gray titles are OK because they're bolded. The light blue slogan, however, is still hard to read. - The Druplicon is farther left than the line of the content. Especially when the window is small enough to have no gutter but even when maximized, that makes it look out of place. Again, it looks like a placement bug due to lack of testing. - A solid color footer should span the full width of the page. Having the extra gaps on the side again feels wrong. So my overall impression is that of an amateur site thrown together without much testing. Something I'd write in an hour or two. :-) That's not a good impression to give. (I know you're not an amateur by any means, but that's the overall feel the design gives me.) So I'm afraid I'm going to have to go with 1, "Argh, my eyes!" -- Larry Garfield AIM: LOLG42 larry@garfieldtech.com ICQ: 6817012 "If nature has made any one thing less susceptible than all others of exclusive property, it is the action of the thinking power called an idea, which an individual may exclusively possess as long as he keeps it to himself; but the moment it is divulged, it forces itself into the possession of every one, and the receiver cannot dispossess himself of it." -- Thomas Jefferson
Larry Garfield wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:37, Farsheed wrote: - I DO consider fixed-with an aesthetic issue and therefore relevant here, and I hate the fixed with design. My Konqueror windows by default open to only about 2/3 of my 1024x768 screen. I only just barely get the full width of the body text (by about a pixel), and can't see the right sidebar at all. If I maximize the window, the gutters on the side feel wasted.
delicious_zen comes with two style-sheets. One fixed, one fluid. So everyone gets whichever one they want.
- I'd like to see how it handles block on both sides.
- The left-aligned block content on the right makes it look too wide. The effect is of the block region being mis-sized, a bug I've gotten often in my own themes. :-)
My issue with today's is that I don't think the "submitted" info should be blue, I liked the heavy gray from the mockup and it should be closer to the title than the text.
Earl I agree... I know I suggested blue, but that was when we weren't using #000 for text. :) I'd say go #000 for all text and do .node .submitted as #666 Trae Isn't this fun! :) On 9/1/06, Earl Miles <merlin@logrus.com> wrote:
Larry Garfield wrote:
On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:37, Farsheed wrote: - I DO consider fixed-with an aesthetic issue and therefore relevant here, and I hate the fixed with design. My Konqueror windows by default open to only about 2/3 of my 1024x768 screen. I only just barely get the full width of the body text (by about a pixel), and can't see the right sidebar at all. If I maximize the window, the gutters on the side feel wasted.
delicious_zen comes with two style-sheets. One fixed, one fluid. So everyone gets whichever one they want.
- I'd like to see how it handles block on both sides.
- The left-aligned block content on the right makes it look too wide. The effect is of the block region being mis-sized, a bug I've gotten often in my own themes. :-)
My issue with today's is that I don't think the "submitted" info should be blue, I liked the heavy gray from the mockup and it should be closer to the title than the text.
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
On Fri, 2006-09-01 at 11:38 -0400, Trae McCombs wrote:
Earl I agree... I know I suggested blue, but that was when we weren't using #000 for text. :)
I'd say go #000 for all text and do .node .submitted as #666
Trae
Isn't this fun! :)
On 9/1/06, Earl Miles <merlin@logrus.com> wrote: Larry Garfield wrote: > On Thursday 31 August 2006 23:37, Farsheed wrote: > - I DO consider fixed-with an aesthetic issue and therefore relevant here, and > I hate the fixed with design. My Konqueror windows by default open to only > about 2/3 of my 1024x768 screen. I only just barely get the full width of > the body text (by about a pixel), and can't see the right sidebar at all. If > I maximize the window, the gutters on the side feel wasted.
delicious_zen comes with two style-sheets. One fixed, one fluid. So everyone gets whichever one they want.
> - I'd like to see how it handles block on both sides. > > - The left-aligned block content on the right makes it look too wide. The > effect is of the block region being mis-sized, a bug I've gotten often in my > own themes. :-) >
My issue with today's is that I don't think the "submitted" info should be blue, I liked the heavy gray from the mockup and it should be closer to the title than the text.
-- Trae McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.com/
delicous_zen is looking very nice this morning... I agree with the submitted a smidgeon closer to the title, I'd go for 1/3 of the current spacing. I also agree with the grey text for submitted as well. The blue tends to indicate important or link to me. Match it to the slogan color? When I bump the font-size <ctrl +> the tabs come off the horizontal line, but the same happens on drupal.org currently so maybe its not that important. I still prefer delicious_zen to the alternatives for its visual simplicity. its in my 4+ range..
Catching up to this thread. As it exists today, here are my comments. 1. I really love the styled text fields and buttons. They make a huge difference. So does the list item decorations. 2. I don't like the post info being in color. It distracts from the main content. This is where grey works, as others have said. 3. The comment post info is in a different color (black). That has to be consistent, so that should be grey as well. 4. I see it is fluid, with minimum width (800?). This is good. Down with fixed width! Overall, 4 out of 5. Good replacement for Bluemarine, and definitely worth including in core whether alone or with others.
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Steven Wittens -
Syscrusher -
Trae McCombs -
Walt Daniels -
Will Wyatt