No it does not happen to ALL files, it seems random. File types are allowed (last file that fell out was a rtf document Drupal 4.6.3 Standard upload module Temp directory is CHMOD 777 _____ From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Sergio Sent: 22 November 2005 00:36 To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Uploaded files "falling out" of the system Anna, I think we need more info on this... Does this happens to all uploaded files? Does the file type (extension) is included in the allowed upload files? What drupal version are you using? Are you using the default upload module? What is the setting on the temporary directory? Regards, - Luis Sergio On 11/20/05, Anna < anna@menu-browser.com> wrote: I have found that some, not all, of the files I upload, (eg: photo's, and files attached to blog entries) seem to simply vanish from the system. I can double check after posting that they are indeed present, and a few hours later they are gone. Watchdog reports no errors, the files simply vanish from the database. Any ideas? Thanks anna -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]

I am on a shared server and do not have access to server logs. This has never happened before under Nuke, Mambo, AeDating, or any number of other CMS. By way of example... our of 14 uploaded jpg images, all uploaded at the same time, 24 hours later 2 of the images vanished from Drupal. They were still present in exactly the same location on my server, Drupal was still calling them through the correct URL, but they would not display in Drupal. One thing I am fast learning about Drupal is that support and willingness to examine the system structure is non existent. -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Bèr Kessels Sent: 23 November 2005 05:03 To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Uploaded files "falling out" of the system Can you please check your systems error logs? have a look at apaches error logs, Most of the times, the problem is somewhere in Apache or PHPs file handling. Ber Op maandag 21 november 2005 23:11, schreef Anna:

No it does not happen to ALL files, it seems random.

File types are allowed (last file that fell out was a rtf document

Drupal 4.6.3

Standard upload module

Temp directory is CHMOD 777

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Sergio Sent: 22 November 2005 00:36 To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Uploaded files "falling out" of the system

Anna,

I think we need more info on this...

Does this happens to all uploaded files? Does the file type (extension) is included in the allowed upload files? What drupal version are you using? Are you using the default upload module? What is the setting on the temporary directory?

Regards, - Luis Sergio

On 11/20/05, Anna < anna@menu-browser.com> wrote:

I have found that some, not all, of the files I upload, (eg: photo's, and files attached to blog entries) seem to simply vanish from the system. I can double check after posting that they are indeed present, and a few hours later they are gone.

Watchdog reports no errors, the files simply vanish from the database.

Any ideas?

Thanks

anna

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What more do you want Drupal to do? ...R. -- Produce and display the image to those who visit my site... that might be nice

A VERY simple question..... Is there anyone here who has ever had a problem with Drupal successfully solved through this list? It seems to me that every time anyone poses a problem here they are given a huge run around looking at everything EXCEPT the Drupal system itself. Is it simply that the Drupal developers have begun to think they are perfect and infallible and their system cannot possibly have any bugs, despite the fact that oh so many of the modules have warnings regarding potential bugs, and patched up solutions?

Is there anyone here who has ever had a problem with Drupal successfully solved through this list? Yes, I have had problems solved both in this mailing list and on #drupal-support.

It seems to me that every time anyone poses a problem here they are given a huge run around looking at everything EXCEPT the Drupal system itself. Unfortunately, usually there is a puzzle. In most cases you need to have a more coprehensive view on a problem in order to help people. Most people are unwilling to answer with "oh, this is due to X", if there is a strong possibility for Y,Z,A,B, .... That is simply wrong. If you manage to get more comprehensive description of your problem, you'll get better mileage.

Is it simply that the Drupal developers have begun to think they are perfect and infallible and their system cannot possibly have any bugs, despite the fact that oh so many of the modules have warnings regarding potential bugs, and patched up solutions? Hmm, sense frustration here. No Drupal is not perfect, and will never be. It develops fast, which means it has permanent growth aches.

Every single drupal support answer is a gesture of good will from the person answering, regardless of their motives. Please, respect the people who volunteer their time and skills. Cheers, Vlado

quoting Anna:

A VERY simple question.....

Is there anyone here who has ever had a problem with Drupal successfully solved through this list?

yes. numerous times [just by reading most of the time]. and guess what? i've never felt the need to insult anyone either. pault -- pault [at] burngreave [dot] net

On 11/22/05, Anna <anna@menu-browser.com> wrote:

A VERY simple question.....

Is there anyone here who has ever had a problem with Drupal successfully solved through this list? yes! I love having this list .... some times I read it and try new modules just to see if i can reproduce the problem.... but guess what!! ..... most of the time I don't have a solution so I don't post back :s

-- CarlosRivero.com LinuxCounter user #280870 Create like a god, command like a king, work like a slave.

Quite frankly, it appears that you appear the arrogant one here... you say my first question "I decided had nothing to do with the Drupal core" well Mr mind reader, better clean your crystal ball. I gave up on trying to get help for that one because nothing that was suggested came close to correcting the problem. Instead I wrote my own paypal module. And guess what??? It works! As for providing a link, sure thing if you are prepared to pay the $30USD subscription fee to enter the site. I am reminded of another "support" group, where I posted a solution to a bug around 3 months ago, but because I was a new member there, and female, they are still trying to figure out how to repair the problem, having rejected my solution without trying it out. Meanwhile I do not suffer from that bug. No, I am not suggesting at all that anyone deliberately programmed bugs into the system. Take a look through the module list and see how many of those carry a warning about the module being a patch up solution that still has bugs. It appears you had better get off your high horse. You charge a $75 per hour fee.... hell by the time you got through reading the problem properly and understanding the issue, I would be bankrupt. -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Morbus Iff Sent: 23 November 2005 02:04 To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Support?????

It seems to me that every time anyone poses a problem here they are given a huge run around looking at everything EXCEPT the Drupal system itself.

From what I can tell: * you signed up Monday, November 14th. * you asked a question. you determined that it had nothing to do with Drupal core, which severely limits your ability to ask for help here (so many modules, so little users of em). * in asking that question, you had the same attitude you're showing now ("hope that I can find more support here than seems to be available through the forums") * you asked your second question on the 20th. you get a mere four responses, of which none are the answers you seem to like ("Oh, Anna! That's simple! That's Issue #41243. Click 'Fix' for it to go away! . . . .. Nice tits, btw.") * you send frustrated letter to the list. I'm surprised that you'll get *any* decent responses after this. And you should be quite pleased to know that *you* controlled that destiny, all by your widdle old self. Can you, for a second, actually *think* about what you're saying? You're suggesting that we've deliberately programmed some bug in the system that deletes random files and now, in our infinite wisdom, are choosing not to find the bug by asking seemingly unrelated questions. But, oh wait, it doesn't *delete* random files: no, the files are still there on the server. And, oh wait! It doesn't actually *delete* the entries from the database - they must still be there too (since you suggest Drupal is still trying to "call" them from the correct URL). With all this helpful information you've given, *of course* we're going to ask you for more investigative information. Especially when no one else on the list, or in my recent memory of Issues, has reported this. The short end of it is: * answer our questions. politely. * be patient. politely. If you want to be rude, then I'll be more than happy to call you my customer. I work at $75 an hour for impolite people, and my Paypal address is the same as my email. Could you give us the URL (yes! even this innocent bit of information, which you so nicely left out is FAAAR more helpful than the stopmotion you've put into your place with this thread. Congratulations!) where Drupal is calling the files correctly, but they're not showing up? -- Morbus Iff ( there is no morbus, there is only zuul! ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]

Anna, you are personally Attaacking me here, after i spent MY time offering to help YOU with YOUR problem. please get lost and solve it by yourself. I am very very angry about your post, and extremely dissapointed by people like you. Just so you know Bye Op dinsdag 22 november 2005 12:02, schreef Anna:

A VERY simple question.....

Is there anyone here who has ever had a problem with Drupal successfully solved through this list?

It seems to me that every time anyone poses a problem here they are given a huge run around looking at everything EXCEPT the Drupal system itself.

Is it simply that the Drupal developers have begun to think they are perfect and infallible and their system cannot possibly have any bugs, despite the fact that oh so many of the modules have warnings regarding potential bugs, and patched up solutions?

Thank you vrao. The strange part is that the first time I noticed this happen, it was approximately 3 out of 14 images that were added to my gallery using the image module. The most recent occurrence was with the attachments module, where a document "vanished". However, your response has been of the greatest assistance. _____ From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of vrao Sent: 22 November 2005 22:59 To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] Uploaded files "falling out" of the system Anna, upload has a few bugs. The 'list' field in table 'files' sometimes get reset to 0. In addition, when you do a node copy, the files dont get copied. you have to use drupal's built in file_copy. If you are not very familar with php, I suggest using the 'attachment' module. However, beware that a lot of contributed modules assume you are using upload. -v ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna <mailto:anna@menu-browser.com> To: support@drupal.org Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 7:39 PM Subject: [support] Uploaded files "falling out" of the system I have found that some, not all, of the files I upload, (eg: photo's, and files attached to blog entries) seem to simply vanish from the system. I can double check after posting that they are indeed present, and a few hours later they are gone. Watchdog reports no errors, the files simply vanish from the database. Any ideas? Thanks anna _____ -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]