is there anyway for users to add links as a small node, like you do in delicious, so that links become content and can be displayed on a 'weblinks' page, tagged, etc.
using page nodes is unwieldy. hand coding the html is what we are doing now on a 'weblinks' page but this is impossible for users to contribute to. ideally we'd like to be able to search links, have a teaser for the links, etc.
i think plone has a links-as-content feature.
thanks for help! - will
will hall wrote:
is there anyway for users to add links as a small node, like you do in delicious, so that links become content and can be displayed on a 'weblinks' page, tagged, etc.
using page nodes is unwieldy. hand coding the html is what we are doing now on a 'weblinks' page but this is impossible for users to contribute to. ideally we'd like to be able to search links, have a teaser for the links, etc.
i think plone has a links-as-content feature.
thanks for help!
- will
Try the links module.
Op zondag 28 januari 2007 19:21, schreef Earl Miles:
Try the links module.
I can only advice the links package. Very modular, so ranging from extremely simple (links_weblink.module) to very complex (the whole shazam)
Bèr
so i should just install the links_weblink.module, then use views module, which we already have?
Bèr Kessels wrote:
Op zondag 28 januari 2007 19:21, schreef Earl Miles:
Try the links module.
I can only advice the links package. Very modular, so ranging from extremely simple (links_weblink.module) to very complex (the whole shazam)
Bèr
In Drupal 5, you can do this with CCK modules and views. Create a content type, add a URL field (which I believe is a supplementary module for CCK, downloaded separately), and then create a view to display. It may be more gears and levers than you were hoping for, but it does allow for a lot of granular control.
Laura
On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:14 AM, will hall wrote:
is there anyway for users to add links as a small node, like you do in delicious, so that links become content and can be displayed on a 'weblinks' page, tagged, etc.
using page nodes is unwieldy. hand coding the html is what we are doing now on a 'weblinks' page but this is impossible for users to contribute to. ideally we'd like to be able to search links, have a teaser for the links, etc.
i think plone has a links-as-content feature.
thanks for help!
- will
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thanks, i am going to try the links_weblink.module before diving in to cck.
are there any examples of sites that use the links_weblink.module
thanks all -- will
Laura Scott wrote:
In Drupal 5, you can do this with CCK modules and views. Create a content type, add a URL field (which I believe is a supplementary module for CCK, downloaded separately), and then create a view to display. It may be more gears and levers than you were hoping for, but it does allow for a lot of granular control.
Laura
On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:14 AM, will hall wrote:
is there anyway for users to add links as a small node, like you do in delicious, so that links become content and can be displayed on a 'weblinks' page, tagged, etc.
using page nodes is unwieldy. hand coding the html is what we are doing now on a 'weblinks' page but this is impossible for users to contribute to. ideally we'd like to be able to search links, have a teaser for the links, etc.
i think plone has a links-as-content feature.
thanks for help!
- will
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On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 10:55:28AM -0800, will hall wrote:
Laura Scott wrote:
In Drupal 5, you can do this with CCK modules and views. Create a content type, add a URL field (which I believe is a supplementary module for CCK, downloaded separately), and then create a view to display. It may be more gears and levers than you were hoping for, but it does allow for a lot of granular control.
Laura
On Jan 28, 2007, at 10:14 AM, will hall wrote:
is there anyway for users to add links as a small node, like you do in delicious, so that links become content and can be displayed on a 'weblinks' page, tagged, etc.
using page nodes is unwieldy. hand coding the html is what we are doing now on a 'weblinks' page but this is impossible for users to contribute to. ideally we'd like to be able to search links, have a teaser for the links, etc.
i think plone has a links-as-content feature.
thanks for help!
- will
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thanks, i am going to try the links_weblink.module before diving in to cck.
are there any examples of sites that use the links_weblink.module
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
cl@isbd.net wrote:
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
Err, no. You can always embed links into content just by typing:
<a href="http://www.example.com">this is where I link to</a>.
That's it.
It's not difficult at all. This is why I don't understand what the problem you are having is.
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:38:23PM -0800, Earl Miles wrote:
cl@isbd.net wrote:
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
Err, no. You can always embed links into content just by typing:
<a href="http://www.example.com">this is where I link to</a>.
That's it.
It's not difficult at all. This is why I don't understand what the problem you are having is.
Is that for internal links to other places on 'my' web site? How do I know what the URL is?
cl@isbd.net wrote:
It's not difficult at all. This is why I don't understand what the problem you are having is.
Is that for internal links to other places on 'my' web site? How do I know what the URL is?
You can link anywhere, on or off the site. To know the URL, visit the page you want to link to, and cut & paste it out of the address bar on your web browser.
The freelinking module can make it a little easier to guess the URL on a post, but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that, so you might find it difficult. (You might not, also; if you set your content up correctly it can work out just fine).
On Sun, Jan 28, 2007 at 01:52:07PM -0800, Earl Miles wrote:
cl@isbd.net wrote:
It's not difficult at all. This is why I don't understand what the problem you are having is.
Is that for internal links to other places on 'my' web site? How do I know what the URL is?
You can link anywhere, on or off the site. To know the URL, visit the page you want to link to, and cut & paste it out of the address bar on your web browser.
The freelinking module can make it a little easier to guess the URL on a post, but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that, so you might find it difficult. (You might not, also; if you set your content up correctly it can work out just fine).
OK, thanks, but by saying "... but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that" you're telling what I'm beginning (well, more than beginning!) to realise that CMS/Drupal probably isn't what I'm looking for.
cl@isbd.net wrote:
OK, thanks, but by saying "... but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that" you're telling what I'm beginning (well, more than beginning!) to realise that CMS/Drupal probably isn't what I'm looking for.
That may well be true. You may also have trouble finding what you're looking for at all. But it may be true that you want Wordpress, which has put all of its effort into doing just one thing but doing it very, very well.
Drupal may not be what you are looking for, but if you want your users to easily enter links on a page both inside and outside the site without knowing HTML, you can get that easily with any of the following:
1. freelinking module, with [[label|http://path]] for external sites, and [[label|name of node]] for same site pages. 2. use a WYSIWYG editor with a link button. 3. use one of the wiki style input modules which allow wiki style references.
Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar
On 1/28/07, Earl Miles merlin@logrus.com wrote:
cl@isbd.net wrote:
OK, thanks, but by saying "... but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that" you're telling what I'm beginning (well, more than beginning!) to realise that CMS/Drupal probably isn't what I'm looking for.
That may well be true. You may also have trouble finding what you're looking for at all. But it may be true that you want Wordpress, which has put all of its effort into doing just one thing but doing it very, very well.
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yes we have 2 threads with similar names, not sure how that happened but if i contributed to confusion my apologies.
we are using tinymce so adding links not a problem -- inside other nodes
- use a WYSIWYG editor with a link button.
what i am asking is for a node itself to be a link. for example, if you look at this page: http://www.theicarusproject.net/resources/web-links
you will see a page with a long weblink directory of organizations and urls. however, we coded this in html! users can't add to it, it can't be sorted, it's hella hard to maintain, etc.
now imagine that each link was its own special node with a small teaser and url, and the page was instead a view showing all "content type = links". sorted alphabetically, by taxonomy keywords, etc. and that users could search a taxonomy term and all the pages, blog posts, events, images AND weblinks tagged with that term would show up with their teasers. differently than page teaser views which are bigger.
i.e. weblinks as nodes.
does this make sense now? see the limitation we are facing? we want to provide a ton of weblinks as resources with teaser blurbs for pages like the Web Links page.
thanks for help!
-- will
Campbell wrote:
Why is everyone hijacking - this isn't insert links into content read the _subject _
Victor Kane wrote:
Drupal may not be what you are looking for, but if you want your users to easily enter links on a page both inside and outside the site without knowing HTML, you can get that easily with any of the following:
- freelinking module, with [[label|http://path]] for external sites,
and [[label|name of node]] for same site pages. 2. use a WYSIWYG editor with a link button. 3. use one of the wiki style input modules which allow wiki style references.
Victor Kane http://awebfactory.com.ar
On 1/28/07, Earl Miles merlin@logrus.com wrote:
cl@isbd.net wrote:
OK, thanks, but by saying "... but Drupal content isn't *really* suited for that" you're telling what I'm beginning (well, more than beginning!) to realise that CMS/Drupal probably isn't what I'm looking for.
That may well be true. You may also have trouble finding what you're looking for at all. But it may be true that you want Wordpress, which has put all of its effort into doing just one thing but doing it very, very well.
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Hi Will
On 29/01/07, will hall will@theicarusproject.net wrote:
what i am asking is for a node itself to be a link. for example, if you look at this page: http://www.theicarusproject.net/resources/web-links
you will see a page with a long weblink directory of organizations and urls. however, we coded this in html! users can't add to it, it can't be sorted, it's hella hard to maintain, etc.
now imagine that each link was its own special node with a small teaser and url, and the page was instead a view showing all "content type = links". sorted alphabetically, by taxonomy keywords, etc. and that users could search a taxonomy term and all the pages, blog posts, events, images AND weblinks tagged with that term would show up with their teasers. differently than page teaser views which are bigger.
i.e. weblinks as nodes.
does this make sense now? see the limitation we are facing? we want to provide a ton of weblinks as resources with teaser blurbs for pages like the Web Links page.
Could I suggest you take a look at: http://category.greenash.net.au/node/91 It seems to me that if you use a category in your case say web links and then create blog posts and link them to web links you can recreate what you want.
I am starting just such an exercise here: http://lostwithiel.eu/ Whilst I have only set up one category that of antiques in the right hand column, eventually there will be more. (I might even try to get more in so you can see it happening).
I hope this helps. Others might suggest a different way - I would be very interested myself.
Hi Will
On 29/01/07, Richard Brown rich@cregy.co.uk wrote:
what i am asking is for a node itself to be a link. for example, if you look at this page: http://www.theicarusproject.net/resources/web-links
you will see a page with a long weblink directory of organizations and urls. however, we coded this in html! users can't add to it, it can't be sorted, it's hella hard to maintain, etc.
now imagine that each link was its own special node with a small teaser and url, and the page was instead a view showing all "content type = links". sorted alphabetically, by taxonomy keywords, etc. and that users could search a taxonomy term and all the pages, blog posts, events, images AND weblinks tagged with that term would show up with their teasers. differently than page teaser views which are bigger.
i.e. weblinks as nodes.
does this make sense now? see the limitation we are facing? we want to provide a ton of weblinks as resources with teaser blurbs for pages like the Web Links page.
Could I suggest you take a look at: http://category.greenash.net.au/node/91 It seems to me that if you use a category in your case say web links and then create blog posts and link them to web links you can recreate what you want.
I am starting just such an exercise here: http://lostwithiel.eu/ Whilst I have only set up one category that of antiques in the right hand column, eventually there will be more. (I might even try to get more in so you can see it happening).
I hope this helps. Others might suggest a different way - I would be very interested myself.
I have just added a second item in the category antique and can now see one major flaw, it doesn't sort things alphabetically for me. This might not be a flaw for you, but I can see it causing a problem if you need to sort items in a particular way.
Any ideas please?
mm, well the problem with this is that they look identical to pages and really the display is key. it also doesn't actually show the urls. it is just like an empty page, titles linked to another url not the full node.
we need something that is more specific to weblinks and more like the display we started.
-- will
Richard Brown wrote:
Hi Will
On 29/01/07, Richard Brown rich@cregy.co.uk wrote:
what i am asking is for a node itself to be a link. for example, if you look at this page: http://www.theicarusproject.net/resources/web-links
you will see a page with a long weblink directory of organizations and urls. however, we coded this in html! users can't add to it, it can't be sorted, it's hella hard to maintain, etc.
now imagine that each link was its own special node with a small teaser and url, and the page was instead a view showing all "content type = links". sorted alphabetically, by taxonomy keywords, etc. and that users could search a taxonomy term and all the pages, blog posts, events, images AND weblinks tagged with that term would show up with their teasers. differently than page teaser views which are bigger.
i.e. weblinks as nodes.
does this make sense now? see the limitation we are facing? we want to provide a ton of weblinks as resources with teaser blurbs for pages like the Web Links page.
Could I suggest you take a look at: http://category.greenash.net.au/node/91 It seems to me that if you use a category in your case say web links and then create blog posts and link them to web links you can recreate what you want.
I am starting just such an exercise here: http://lostwithiel.eu/ Whilst I have only set up one category that of antiques in the right hand column, eventually there will be more. (I might even try to get more in so you can see it happening).
I hope this helps. Others might suggest a different way - I would be very interested myself.
I have just added a second item in the category antique and can now see one major flaw, it doesn't sort things alphabetically for me. This might not be a flaw for you, but I can see it causing a problem if you need to sort items in a particular way.
Any ideas please?
will hall schrieb:
mm, well the problem with this is that they look identical to pages and really the display is key. it also doesn't actually show the urls. it is just like an empty page, titles linked to another url not the full node.
we need something that is more specific to weblinks and more like the display we started.
Hi. Here is how I would do it: - install views: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/drupal/files/projects/views-5.x-1.5.tar.gz - install cck: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/drupal/files/projects/cck-5.x-1.2.tar.gz - install link: http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/drupal/files/projects/link-5.x-1.4.tar.gz
- create a new content type (lets call it "weblink"): - Name: weblink - Type: weblink - add a field for this content type: - Label: weblink - Field Type: link -> give it a title and perhaps select "Link Title: Requiered Title"
- create a view ("weblinks") - Name: weblinks - Provide Page View: yes - URL: weblinks - View Type: Teaser List (or List View) - add fields - Title - Body (Handler: Teaser) - Link weblink (field_weblink) - create a template for the new content type (http://drupal.org/node/62466 is a good point to start)
Sounds really complicated but should do it. hth,
Stefan
...the advice everyone else is giving about CCK/Links/etc... is good advice. if you want something lightweight that works out-of-the box, try the userlink module
http://drupal.org/project/userlink
it's been ported to 5.x, and while i think it should be a simple CCK extension module someday, at the present it is a standalone module. use it along with Tagadelic for some good fun. there's a 4.7 demo here:
http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink
if it's what you were looking for, and you weren't able to find it by searching the Drupal site, please feel free to contribute some better wording to the module description for me.
marc ------- http://www.funnymonkey.com Tools for Teachers
will hall wrote:
mm, well the problem with this is that they look identical to pages and really the display is key. it also doesn't actually show the urls. it is just like an empty page, titles linked to another url not the full node.
we need something that is more specific to weblinks and more like the display we started.
-- will
Richard Brown wrote:
Hi Will
On 29/01/07, Richard Brown rich@cregy.co.uk wrote:
what i am asking is for a node itself to be a link. for example, if you look at this page: http://www.theicarusproject.net/resources/web-links
you will see a page with a long weblink directory of organizations and urls. however, we coded this in html! users can't add to it, it can't be sorted, it's hella hard to maintain, etc.
now imagine that each link was its own special node with a small teaser and url, and the page was instead a view showing all "content type = links". sorted alphabetically, by taxonomy keywords, etc. and that users could search a taxonomy term and all the pages, blog posts, events, images AND weblinks tagged with that term would show up with their teasers. differently than page teaser views which are bigger.
i.e. weblinks as nodes.
does this make sense now? see the limitation we are facing? we want to provide a ton of weblinks as resources with teaser blurbs for pages like the Web Links page.
Could I suggest you take a look at: http://category.greenash.net.au/node/91 It seems to me that if you use a category in your case say web links and then create blog posts and link them to web links you can recreate what you want.
I am starting just such an exercise here: http://lostwithiel.eu/ Whilst I have only set up one category that of antiques in the right hand column, eventually there will be more. (I might even try to get more in so you can see it happening).
I hope this helps. Others might suggest a different way - I would be very interested myself.
I have just added a second item in the category antique and can now see one major flaw, it doesn't sort things alphabetically for me. This might not be a flaw for you, but I can see it causing a problem if you need to sort items in a particular way.
Any ideas please?
Quoting Marc Poris marc@funnymonkey.com:
...the advice everyone else is giving about CCK/Links/etc... is good advice. if you want something lightweight that works out-of-the box, try the userlink module
http://drupal.org/project/userlink
it's been ported to 5.x, and while i think it should be a simple CCK extension module someday, at the present it is a standalone module. use it along with Tagadelic for some good fun. there's a 4.7 demo here:
http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink
if it's what you were looking for, and you weren't able to find it by searching the Drupal site, please feel free to contribute some better wording to the module description for me.
May I suggest you also add http://drupal.org/project/pathauto to the mix? The pathauto module will give your URL' rememberable paths. So for instance your URL http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/taxonomy/term/4 could become http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/term/drupal or even just http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/drupal depending on the configuration.
On your demo site I would expect to see write up explaining how a user might add new links including screenshots to help with the explanations.
Earnie
Earnie Boyd wrote:
May I suggest you also add http://drupal.org/project/pathauto to the mix? The pathauto module will give your URL' rememberable paths. So for instance your URL http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/taxonomy/term/4 could become http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/term/drupal or even just http://demos.funnymonkey.com/userlink/drupal depending on the configuration.
There has been talk of scalability issues with pathaliases in general, and pathauto, and while there has been some work to address this, it's still a work in progress: http://drupal.org/node/63635 and http://drupal.org/node/70806
On your demo site I would expect to see write up explaining how a user might add new links including screenshots to help with the explanations.
If you would like to write these up, we'll gladly include them, and credit you as the author -- it's something we'd like to to, but until we sort out the bugs with the "add more hours to the day" module, it's probably not going to happen in the near future.
Cheers,
Bill
cl@isbd.net wrote:
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
Second response as I realized this is actually the other thread.
What they are suggesting isn't about putting links into content. What they're suggesting is a method to achieve a managed list of links. It's actually a very different thing.
Quoting cl@isbd.net:
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
You call highly configurable/modifiable hoops.
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
Yes, you. I prefer hoops to the you must do it this way method.
Earnie
On Mon, Jan 29, 2007 at 08:19:16AM -0500, Earnie Boyd wrote:
Quoting cl@isbd.net:
This thread shows me what I find difficult/wrong about Drupal (and most other CMS systems)! Just to make it possible to put links into content one has to jump through all these hoops?!?!
You call highly configurable/modifiable hoops.
Someone has lost the plot somewhere (maybe me). :-)
Yes, you. I prefer hoops to the you must do it this way method.
I'm not advocating a "you must do it this way", lots of alternatives are usually a good idea.
However I am beginning to see the sort of thing that works for me after much more hunting. As I said I don't need dynamic HTML, nor do I need building via a web browser. With that in mind I started searching again and came up with a few possibles, the best match to what I'm looking for so far is Webgen. If anyone here knows that at all you'll realise I'm not after an incredibly 'user' friendly interface but it sure is a much more 'me' friendly interface. For me at least it was much, much, much quicker to see how it works and all fits together and positively trivial to actually create a basic web site and start playing.
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