New info: when i change my site to one of the default themes it works, so it's something in my theme. I'm a first time drupal theme developer so i suppose that's not terribly surprising.

Relevant notes about my theme: I am including the following in my theme: <?php print $styles ?> <?php print $scripts ?> <script type="text/javascript" src="<?php print base_path() . path_to_theme() ?>/global.js"></script>

so that should be including any required drupal css and js (p.s. - i'm sure there's a way to get my custom javascript into the scripts variable but i couldn't figure it out from the documentation and the themes that i downloaded that used javascript were all doing it this way. i'd love to do it the proper way though)

my javascript isn't doing anything that should break these editors. There's no styling in the css for textareas. However there is this global css declaration - I've gotten into the habit of always setting this and then overriding when necessary because I've found it makes my life easier. It's the only thing i can think of that might cause it, other than a block of php code i need to include that i'm not: *{ margin:0px; padding:0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height:19px; color:#46403a; }

specifically the margin and/or padding being set to 0 on textareas... I wouldn't think that would mess it up, but it's all i've come up with so far

.s

Metzler, David wrote:

I haven't done this with 5.2 but I'd been planning on upgrading. I will do this and get back to you. I'm a long time user of TinyMCE, so I ought to be able to figure this out quickly.

Dave

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*From:* support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *sander-martijn *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:31 PM *To:* support@drupal.org *Subject:* Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

Ok, having a simalar but not quite the same issue with fckeditor. with fckeditor i can edit the admin options. I realized with both that i have to enable them in roles so i did that. I also tried uploading them into /modules instead of sits/all/modules/ but no change, still getting plain text in edit fields. Any suggestions? Drupal will be pretty much useless for me if I can't get wysiwyg working (even though i hate it myself, the client can't handle it otherwise).

sander-martijn wrote:

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and now for my own support question. As my client is not html savvy, one of my early requirements is to get a wysiwyg editor working. I chose tinyMCE as the first trial because I'm thinking IMCE will be a good add-on (although on second look it now also supports FCK so if I can't get an answer here i may just try that). I downloaded the tinyMCE module official release 5.x-1.9, downloaded tinyMCE version 2.1.1.1 and put it in the directory as specified and uploaded it. I enabled the module in admin but it didn't show up. Figured I had to configure it so went to the tinyMCE configuration page but that page is blank. I'm on drupal 5.2 and I noticed the note (or copy the TinyMCE files into the module's includes folder for the 5.2 users) but there is no includes folder in the version i downloaded.

Does anyone know whether I should create the includes folder or have to download the dev version (always should be a last option in a production site of course), if i need a different version of tinyMCE or some other issue I might be having?

.s

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Would move your javascript into the approprate place next.

In your theme, make sure that you have a template.php file which contains the following, then remove the script tag from your theme.

function _phptemplate_variables($hook, $vars) { drupal_add_js(path_to_theme().'/global.js','theme'); }

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of sander-martijn Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:33 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

ok - just tested it - it's not the *{} css block. it must be something else in the theme, something i'm missing perhaps.

sander-martijn wrote:

New info: when i change my site to one of the default themes it works, so it's something in my theme. I'm a first time drupal theme developer so i suppose that's not terribly surprising. Relevant notes about my theme: I am including the following in my theme: <?php print $styles ?> <?php print $scripts ?> <script type="text/javascript" src="<?php print base_path() . path_to_theme() ?>/global.js"></script> so that should be including any required drupal css and js (p.s. - i'm sure there's a way to get my custom javascript into the scripts variable but i couldn't figure it out from the documentation and the themes that i downloaded that used javascript were all doing it this way. i'd love to do it the proper way though) my javascript isn't doing anything that should break these editors. There's no styling in the css for textareas. However there is this global css declaration - I've gotten into the habit of always setting this and then overriding when necessary because I've found it makes my life easier. It's the only thing i can think of that might cause it, other than a block of php code i need to include that i'm not: *{ margin:0px; padding:0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height:19px; color:#46403a; } specifically the margin and/or padding being set to 0 on textareas... I wouldn't think that would mess it up, but it's all i've come up with so far .s Metzler, David wrote:

I haven't done this with 5.2 but I'd been planning on upgrading. I will do this and get back to you. I'm a long time user of TinyMCE, so I ought to be able to figure this out quickly. Dave

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of sander-martijn Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:31 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tinyMCE issue Ok, having a simalar but not quite the same issue with fckeditor. with fckeditor i can edit the admin options. I realized with both that i have to enable them in roles so i did that. I also tried uploading them into /modules instead of sits/all/modules/ but no change, still getting plain text in edit fields. Any suggestions? Drupal will be pretty much useless for me if I can't get wysiwyg working (even though i hate it myself, the client can't handle it otherwise). sander-martijn wrote:

and now for my own support question. As my client is not html savvy, one of my early requirements is to get a wysiwyg editor working. I chose tinyMCE as the first trial because I'm thinking IMCE will be a good add-on (although on second look it now also supports FCK so if I can't get an answer here i may just try that). I downloaded the tinyMCE module official release 5.x-1.9, downloaded tinyMCE version 2.1.1.1 and put it in the directory as specified and uploaded it. I enabled the module in admin but it didn't show up. Figured I had to configure it so went to the tinyMCE configuration page but that page is blank. I'm on drupal 5.2 and I noticed the note (or copy the TinyMCE files into the module's includes folder for the 5.2 users) but there is no includes folder in the version i downloaded. Does anyone know whether I should create the includes folder or have to download the dev version (always should be a last option in a production site of course), if i need a different version of tinyMCE or some other issue I might be having? .s

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I'd seriously consider just commenting out your javascript next to prove its not something related to it. It seems odd for a css problem for the editor to dissapear.

FYI: if you know (or suspect you know the function name) the api docs are a good place to look: http://api.drupal.org Most of the functions have good example code referenced. )

Good luck....

Dave

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of sander-martijn Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:29 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

Well it didn't solve the problem. I'm pretty sure it's something css so i'm going to start hacking through that.

It did however get my script loading the way it should, and that makes me happy. I wish it was documented in a findable place (in otherwords i'm not saying it's not there, but i searched for $scripts, scripts, drupal_add_js which I suspected was needed all along etc and couldn't find it anywhere)

Thanks for your help. I'll report back whether it was a css thing or if i need more help.

Metzler, David wrote:

Would move your javascript into the approprate place next. In your theme, make sure that you have a template.php file which contains the following, then remove the script tag from your theme. function _phptemplate_variables($hook, $vars) { drupal_add_js(path_to_theme().'/global.js','theme'); }

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of sander-martijn Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:33 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tinyMCE issue ok - just tested it - it's not the *{} css block. it must be something else in the theme, something i'm missing perhaps. sander-martijn wrote:

New info: when i change my site to one of the default themes it works, so it's something in my theme. I'm a first time drupal theme developer so i suppose that's not terribly surprising. Relevant notes about my theme: I am including the following in my theme: <?php print $styles ?> <?php print $scripts ?> <script type="text/javascript" src="<?php print base_path() . path_to_theme() ?>/global.js"></script> so that should be including any required drupal css and js (p.s. - i'm sure there's a way to get my custom javascript into the scripts variable but i couldn't figure it out from the documentation and the themes that i downloaded that used javascript were all doing it this way. i'd love to do it the proper way though) my javascript isn't doing anything that should break these editors. There's no styling in the css for textareas. However there is this global css declaration - I've gotten into the habit of always setting this and then overriding when necessary because I've found it makes my life easier. It's the only thing i can think of that might cause it, other than a block of php code i need to include that i'm not: *{ margin:0px; padding:0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height:19px; color:#46403a; } specifically the margin and/or padding being set to 0 on textareas... I wouldn't think that would mess it up, but it's all i've come up with so far .s Metzler, David wrote:

I haven't done this with 5.2 but I'd been planning on upgrading. I will do this and get back to you. I'm a long time user of TinyMCE, so I ought to be able to figure this out quickly. Dave

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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of sander-martijn Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:31 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] tinyMCE issue Ok, having a simalar but not quite the same issue with fckeditor. with fckeditor i can edit the admin options. I realized with both that i have to enable them in roles so i did that. I also tried uploading them into /modules instead of sits/all/modules/ but no change, still getting plain text in edit fields. Any suggestions? Drupal will be pretty much useless for me if I can't get wysiwyg working (even though i hate it myself, the client can't handle it otherwise). sander-martijn wrote:

and now for my own support question. As my client is not html savvy, one of my early requirements is to get a wysiwyg editor working. I chose tinyMCE as the first trial because I'm thinking IMCE will be a good add-on (although on second look it now also supports FCK so if I can't get an answer here i may just try that). I downloaded the tinyMCE module official release 5.x-1.9, downloaded tinyMCE version 2.1.1.1 and put it in the directory as specified and uploaded it. I enabled the module in admin but it didn't show up. Figured I had to configure it so went to the tinyMCE configuration page but that page is blank. I'm on drupal 5.2 and I noticed the note (or copy the TinyMCE files into the module's includes folder for the 5.2 users) but there is no includes folder in the version i downloaded. Does anyone know whether I should create the includes folder or have to download the dev version (always should be a last option in a production site of course), if i need a different version of tinyMCE or some other issue I might be having? .s

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sander-martijn mailto:sander@sander-martijn.com interface developer | architect sander@sander-martijn.com www.sander-martijn.com

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Ok - that did it! And here's a lesson to anyone just starting to work on their own theme from scratch - even if you don't want tabs on your site, drupal requires it to function properly. So make sure you have something that looks like this: <?php if ($tabs != ""): ?> <div class="tabs"><?php print $tabs ?></div> <?php endif; ?>

As far as I can tell right now it only shows for logged in users (possibly even only administrators, still getting the hang of roles - i imagine you can choose who sees it depending on your needs).

Thanks David for all your help.

sander-martijn wrote:

well i completely removed my css and my javascript and it still doesn't work so it's not anything i'm adding. Likely it's something i'm missing and after looking at the other templates closer I'm realizing there are other things. The main one I'm not seeing any tabs (which is why I couldn't find a lot of things such as revisions and also could explain why i couldn't see the tinyMCE config page).

Metzler, David wrote:

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I'd seriously consider just commenting out your javascript next to prove its not something related to it. It seems odd for a css problem for the editor to dissapear.

FYI: if you know (or suspect you know the function name) the api docs are a good place to look: http://api.drupal.org Most of the functions have good example code referenced. )

Good luck....

Dave

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*From:* support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *sander-martijn *Sent:* Thursday, August 16, 2007 8:29 AM *To:* support@drupal.org *Subject:* Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

Well it didn't solve the problem. I'm pretty sure it's something css so i'm going to start hacking through that.

It did however get my script loading the way it should, and that makes me happy. I wish it was documented in a findable place (in otherwords i'm not saying it's not there, but i searched for $scripts, scripts, drupal_add_js which I suspected was needed all along etc and couldn't find it anywhere)

Thanks for your help. I'll report back whether it was a css thing or if i need more help.

Metzler, David wrote:

...

Would move your javascript into the approprate place next.

In your theme, make sure that you have a template.php file which contains the following, then remove the script tag from your theme.

function _phptemplate_variables($hook, $vars) { drupal_add_js(path_to_theme().'/global.js','theme'); }

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*From:* support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *sander-martijn *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2007 5:33 PM *To:* support@drupal.org *Subject:* Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

ok - just tested it - it's not the *{} css block. it must be something else in the theme, something i'm missing perhaps.

sander-martijn wrote:

...

New info: when i change my site to one of the default themes it works, so it's something in my theme. I'm a first time drupal theme developer so i suppose that's not terribly surprising.

Relevant notes about my theme: I am including the following in my theme:

<?php print $styles ?>

<?php print $scripts ?>

<script type="text/javascript" src="<?php print base_path() . path_to_theme() ?>/global.js"></script>

so that should be including any required drupal css and js (p.s. - i'm sure there's a way to get my custom javascript into the scripts variable but i couldn't figure it out from the documentation and the themes that i downloaded that used javascript were all doing it this way. i'd love to do it the proper way though)

my javascript isn't doing anything that should break these editors. There's no styling in the css for textareas. However there is this global css declaration - I've gotten into the habit of always setting this and then overriding when necessary because I've found it makes my life easier. It's the only thing i can think of that might cause it, other than a block of php code i need to include that i'm not: *{ margin:0px; padding:0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12px; line-height:19px; color:#46403a; }

specifically the margin and/or padding being set to 0 on textareas... I wouldn't think that would mess it up, but it's all i've come up with so far

.s

Metzler, David wrote:

...

I haven't done this with 5.2 but I'd been planning on upgrading. I will do this and get back to you. I'm a long time user of TinyMCE, so I ought to be able to figure this out quickly.

Dave

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*From:* support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] *On Behalf Of *sander-martijn *Sent:* Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:31 PM *To:* support@drupal.org *Subject:* Re: [support] tinyMCE issue

Ok, having a simalar but not quite the same issue with fckeditor. with fckeditor i can edit the admin options. I realized with both that i have to enable them in roles so i did that. I also tried uploading them into /modules instead of sits/all/modules/ but no change, still getting plain text in edit fields. Any suggestions? Drupal will be pretty much useless for me if I can't get wysiwyg working (even though i hate it myself, the client can't handle it otherwise).

sander-martijn wrote:

...

and now for my own support question. As my client is not html savvy, one of my early requirements is to get a wysiwyg editor working. I chose tinyMCE as the first trial because I'm thinking IMCE will be a good add-on (although on second look it now also supports FCK so if I can't get an answer here i may just try that). I downloaded the tinyMCE module official release 5.x-1.9, downloaded tinyMCE version 2.1.1.1 and put it in the directory as specified and uploaded it. I enabled the module in admin but it didn't show up. Figured I had to configure it so went to the tinyMCE configuration page but that page is blank. I'm on drupal 5.2 and I noticed the note (or copy the TinyMCE files into the module's includes folder for the 5.2 users) but there is no includes folder in the version i downloaded.

Does anyone know whether I should create the includes folder or have to download the dev version (always should be a last option in a production site of course), if i need a different version of tinyMCE or some other issue I might be having?

.s

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