Hi,
I am in process of transforming my college's website from old dead static page site to drupal powered website. These are the features I am thinking to implement.
1. Each student of the college could have his own homepage on college's domain. As if http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname. The student should have control on that page only. Under his homepage tree, he should be able to create hierarchy of content. i.e. child nodes under his home page.
2. Lecturers and other staff of the college should also have their home page under the their department's category where they could upload their Resume etc. Now while showing a listing of computer science faculty members, that list could be fetched dynamically from the content provided by them on their pages.
3. In the same way, each society of the college should have their home page. It will be having same capabilities as user pages. e.g. their home pages and ability to create other nodes as child of the home page.
4. There should be a group page for each society. Only the members of that society ( e.g. members of the tech club in our college) should be able to subscribe to that group. They could discuss their issues on the group forum.
5. I would like to fetch content dynamically from pages named Latest News and Upcoming Events to two different blocks on the front page. The block which is containing latest news will have 5 news stories, then each news story title should feature a small image along with it.
6. Different permissions will be defined for students, lecturers, community, library admin and management accounts.
I would like to know about the modules needed for these tasks or other resources which will be helpful here. Right now, I am experimenting with CCK and Views and they look to be quite important for implementation of some of the tasks.
Thanks,
-Jai
Hi,
The below modules should help.
Organic Groups: http://drupal.org/project/og
Enable users to create and manage their own 'groups'. Each group can have subscribers, and maintains a group home page where subscribers communicate amongst themselves. They do so by posting the usual node types: blog, story, page, etc. A block is shown on the group home page which facilitates these posts. The block also provides summary information about the group.
Groups may be selective or not. Selective groups require approval in order to become a member, or even invitation -only groups. There are lots of preferences to configure groups as you need.
Groups get their own theme, language, taxonomy, and so on. Integrates well and depends upon Views module
Views: http://drupal.org/project/views
This tool is essentially a smart query builder that, given enough information, can build the proper query, execute it, and display the results. It has four modes, plus a special mode, and provides an impressive amount of functionality from these modes.
and CCK: http://drupal.org/project/cck
CCK, will help us create custom node types.
Shyamala
Netlink http://www.netlinkindia.com/ Technologies Limited
http://shyamala-drupal.blogspot.com/
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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Jai Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 12:19 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Hi,
I am in process of transforming my college's website from old dead static page site to drupal powered website. These are the features I am thinking to implement.
1. Each student of the college could have his own homepage on college's domain. As if http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname. The student should have control on that page only. Under his homepage tree, he should be able to create hierarchy of content. i.e. child nodes under his home page.
2. Lecturers and other staff of the college should also have their home page under the their department's category where they could upload their Resume etc. Now while showing a listing of computer science faculty members, that list could be fetched dynamically from the content provided by them on their pages.
3. In the same way, each society of the college should have their home page. It will be having same capabilities as user pages. e.g. their home pages and ability to create other nodes as child of the home page.
4. There should be a group page for each society. Only the members of that society ( e.g. members of the tech club in our college) should be able to subscribe to that group. They could discuss their issues on the group forum.
5. I would like to fetch content dynamically from pages named Latest News and Upcoming Events to two different blocks on the front page. The block which is containing latest news will have 5 news stories, then each news story title should feature a small image along with it.
6. Different permissions will be defined for students, lecturers, community, library admin and management accounts.
I would like to know about the modules needed for these tasks or other resources which will be helpful here. Right now, I am experimenting with CCK and Views and they look to be quite important for implementation of some of the tasks.
Thanks,
-Jai
Thanks Shyamala...
Right now I am giving time to the learning curve required by the Views module. Views and CCK look like essential for any web portal with Drupal. According to the knowledge I have, I can figure out that I can easily fetch 5 top stories from the news and events content types.
Organic Groups module looks awesome from managing groups along with permissions.
Now what I am really looking here is a kind of module that helps me in creation of hierarchical content for each user. e.g. a user creates four content nodes, then each node could have 3 child nodes each. That node could be of any type. Say Video, Gallery Pages, Class Notes, Resume etc. Permissions over each such content created by user is very important. As for example a student should not be able to edit the content created by other student or a society-head of the college.
Also I am looking for a way there so that I could list each user's space with a URL like "http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname".
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shyamala Rajaram shyamala@netlinkindia.com
Hi,
The below modules should help.
Organic Groups: *http://drupal.org/project/og*
*Enable users to create and manage their own 'groups'. Each group can have subscribers, and maintains a group home page where subscribers communicate amongst themselves. They do so by posting the usual node types: blog, story, page, etc. A block is shown on the group home page which facilitates these posts. The block also provides summary information about the group.*
*Groups may be selective or not. Selective groups require approval in order to become a member, or even invitation -only groups. There are lots of preferences to configure groups as you need.*
*Groups get their own theme, language, taxonomy, and so on. Integrates well and depends upon Views module*
Views: *http://drupal.org/project/views*
*This tool is essentially a smart query builder that, given enough information, can build the proper query, execute it, and display the results. It has four modes, plus a special mode, and provides an impressive amount of functionality from these modes.*
and CCK: http://drupal.org/project/cck
*CCK, will help us create custom node types.*
Shyamala
Netlink Technologies Limited http://www.netlinkindia.com/
On 23 Nov 2008, at 13:17, Jai wrote:
Also I am looking for a way there so that I could list each user's space with a URL like "http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname".
I would use pathauto for that: http://drupal.org/project/pathauto
Another module that might help you out is: http://drupal.org/project/me
Jai,
Good luck -- you are getting great advice here. If taken on quite a big/complex project, especially if you don't have a lot of Drupal experience.
Given how complex the project is, I'd recommend developing a plan for functionality roll-out in such a way that you you can launch without the use of Organic Groups. I'm not criticizing OG. Bu it adds significant complexity to the site -- demanding signfificant learning curve for admins and users alike.
It would be better, in my opinion, if both you and your users could have more experience with the new site before adding OG. Maybe it is an absolute requirement --- but if not, I think you'll have better luck (and more fun!) adding complexity over time instead of up front.
best,
Shai Content2zero http://content2zero.com
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Nicolas Borda forums@ipwa.net wrote:
On 23 Nov 2008, at 13:17, Jai wrote:
Also I am looking for a way there so that I could list each user's space with a URL like "http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname".
I would use pathauto for that: http://drupal.org/project/pathauto
Another module that might help you out is: http://drupal.org/project/me
--
Nicolas Borda
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Thanks Shai,
I'm taking your suggestion seriously and firstly giving time to the basic structure. I am using Druapl 6 here. The most difficult task I am finding here is selecting some module of your use out of the great pool of them. I visited some case studies provided by some college/universities for their drupal implementation and found them quite inspiring.
I liked the idea of distributions in drupal, as the great variety of modules available can lead the extensibility of drupal to any point. I was wondering, if some work has been done for education distribution also?
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shai Gluskin shai@content2zero.com
Jai,
Good luck -- you are getting great advice here. If taken on quite a big/complex project, especially if you don't have a lot of Drupal experience.
Given how complex the project is, I'd recommend developing a plan for functionality roll-out in such a way that you you can launch without the use of Organic Groups. I'm not criticizing OG. Bu it adds significant complexity to the site -- demanding signfificant learning curve for admins and users alike.
It would be better, in my opinion, if both you and your users could have more experience with the new site before adding OG. Maybe it is an absolute requirement --- but if not, I think you'll have better luck (and more fun!) adding complexity over time instead of up front.
best,
Shai Content2zero http://content2zero.com
Hello, Jai,
Have you joined the Drupal in Education group over at g.d.o? http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-education -- lot's of good folks there working on similar issues.
Also, we put out a distribution geared toward maintaining a social learning space, but it is in need of an overhaul (both to update it to D6 and to radically rework the functionality). This will be happening over the next few months, but in any case it's more for a class/collaborative space than a public-facing web site.
// Shameless plug alert!
I also wrote a book on using Drupal in Education designed for people new to Drupal. It's coming out on November 28th, and goes over some module selection, and also using CCK, Views, and Organic Groups (among other things). For more info on the book, see http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-for-education-and-e-learning/book -- from this page you can also get to the table of contents for more specifics.
// end shameless plug
Cheers,
Bill
Jai wrote:
Thanks Shai,
I'm taking your suggestion seriously and firstly giving time to the basic structure. I am using Druapl 6 here. The most difficult task I am finding here is selecting some module of your use out of the great pool of them. I visited some case studies provided by some college/universities for their drupal implementation and found them quite inspiring.
I liked the idea of distributions in drupal, as the great variety of modules available can lead the extensibility of drupal to any point. I was wondering, if some work has been done for education distribution also?
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shai Gluskin shai@content2zero.com
Jai,
Good luck -- you are getting great advice here. If taken on quite a big/complex project, especially if you don't have a lot of Drupal experience.
Given how complex the project is, I'd recommend developing a plan for functionality roll-out in such a way that you you can launch without the use of Organic Groups. I'm not criticizing OG. Bu it adds significant complexity to the site -- demanding signfificant learning curve for admins and users alike.
It would be better, in my opinion, if both you and your users could have more experience with the new site before adding OG. Maybe it is an absolute requirement --- but if not, I think you'll have better luck (and more fun!) adding complexity over time instead of up front.
best,
Shai Content2zero http://content2zero.com
I love this article: http://www.funnymonkey.com/drupaled-latest
Yes, DrupalEd is a neat collection of modules for education, preconfigured with certain roles and predefined CCKs. Do let me know if you need any support, we are working on similar solutions.
My feeling is with the current level of support available in Drupal, having the site up is a breeze, Theming will be the tough part, go in for some exiting theme with minimal modification.
Are you from Chennai? We can then meet up at one of the Drupal meets.
Shyamala -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Bill Fitzgerald Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:57 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Hello, Jai,
Have you joined the Drupal in Education group over at g.d.o? http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-education -- lot's of good folks there working on similar issues.
Also, we put out a distribution geared toward maintaining a social learning space, but it is in need of an overhaul (both to update it to D6 and to radically rework the functionality). This will be happening over the next few months, but in any case it's more for a class/collaborative space than a public-facing web site.
// Shameless plug alert!
I also wrote a book on using Drupal in Education designed for people new to Drupal. It's coming out on November 28th, and goes over some module selection, and also using CCK, Views, and Organic Groups (among other things). For more info on the book, see http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-for-education-and-e-learning/book -- from this page you can also get to the table of contents for more specifics.
// end shameless plug
Cheers,
Bill
Jai wrote:
Thanks Shai,
I'm taking your suggestion seriously and firstly giving time to the basic structure. I am using Druapl 6 here. The most difficult task I am finding here is selecting some module of your use out of the great pool of them. I visited some case studies provided by some college/universities for their drupal implementation and found them quite inspiring.
I liked the idea of distributions in drupal, as the great variety of
modules
available can lead the extensibility of drupal to any point. I was wondering, if some work has been done for education distribution also?
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shai Gluskin shai@content2zero.com
Jai,
Good luck -- you are getting great advice here. If taken on quite a big/complex project, especially if you don't have a lot of Drupal experience.
Given how complex the project is, I'd recommend developing a plan for functionality roll-out in such a way that you you can launch without the
use
of Organic Groups. I'm not criticizing OG. Bu it adds significant
complexity
to the site -- demanding signfificant learning curve for admins and users alike.
It would be better, in my opinion, if both you and your users could have more experience with the new site before adding OG. Maybe it is an
absolute
requirement --- but if not, I think you'll have better luck (and more
fun!)
adding complexity over time instead of up front.
best,
Shai Content2zero http://content2zero.com
Hi Jai,
Just listed all the modules and must read articles in my blog.
Checkout: http://shyamala-drupal.blogspot.com/
Shyamala
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Shyamala Rajaram Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 9:37 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
I love this article: http://www.funnymonkey.com/drupaled-latest
Yes, DrupalEd is a neat collection of modules for education, preconfigured with certain roles and predefined CCKs. Do let me know if you need any support, we are working on similar solutions.
My feeling is with the current level of support available in Drupal, having the site up is a breeze, Theming will be the tough part, go in for some exiting theme with minimal modification.
Are you from Chennai? We can then meet up at one of the Drupal meets.
Shyamala -----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Bill Fitzgerald Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 12:57 AM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Hello, Jai,
Have you joined the Drupal in Education group over at g.d.o? http://groups.drupal.org/drupal-education -- lot's of good folks there working on similar issues.
Also, we put out a distribution geared toward maintaining a social learning space, but it is in need of an overhaul (both to update it to D6 and to radically rework the functionality). This will be happening over the next few months, but in any case it's more for a class/collaborative space than a public-facing web site.
// Shameless plug alert!
I also wrote a book on using Drupal in Education designed for people new to Drupal. It's coming out on November 28th, and goes over some module selection, and also using CCK, Views, and Organic Groups (among other things). For more info on the book, see http://www.packtpub.com/drupal-for-education-and-e-learning/book -- from this page you can also get to the table of contents for more specifics.
// end shameless plug
Cheers,
Bill
Jai wrote:
Thanks Shai,
I'm taking your suggestion seriously and firstly giving time to the basic structure. I am using Druapl 6 here. The most difficult task I am finding here is selecting some module of your use out of the great pool of them. I visited some case studies provided by some college/universities for their drupal implementation and found them quite inspiring.
I liked the idea of distributions in drupal, as the great variety of
modules
available can lead the extensibility of drupal to any point. I was wondering, if some work has been done for education distribution also?
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shai Gluskin shai@content2zero.com
Jai,
Good luck -- you are getting great advice here. If taken on quite a big/complex project, especially if you don't have a lot of Drupal experience.
Given how complex the project is, I'd recommend developing a plan for functionality roll-out in such a way that you you can launch without the
use
of Organic Groups. I'm not criticizing OG. Bu it adds significant
complexity
to the site -- demanding signfificant learning curve for admins and users alike.
It would be better, in my opinion, if both you and your users could have more experience with the new site before adding OG. Maybe it is an
absolute
requirement --- but if not, I think you'll have better luck (and more
fun!)
adding complexity over time instead of up front.
best,
Shai Content2zero http://content2zero.com
Bill, Thanks for the link to drupal-education group. Now, I am also a member of it. I found it very informative and some of the group posts instantly solved my confusions. Also, here I am more concerned about a public facing website using drupal with the facilities I listed in my first mail. For the collaborative/learning environment I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
Shyamala,
I visited your blog page, a very useful post over there. Well, I am not from Chennai, but still keeping in touch with local drupal communities could be a great idea. Just to mention on the theming part, I am thinking about keeping Zen or something else as my base theme or modifying it according to my needs. I just gone through the theming guide for drupal 6 (though I got confused at some points, but still it gave me an initial pace to build up a theme! What else did I want... :) )
-Jai
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
It depends on what you want to do. Moodle is not a "content management system" (CMS), if one can consider Drupal to be that. Moodle is a "course management system" (unfortunately, the same 3 initials CMS). Moodle handles courses, assignments, grading, etc. Moodle does have some more generic features, but Drupal is far more flexible.
So if you want a content management system, Drupal is the obvious choice. If you want a system that has some more specific educational capabilities, but has some very simple forum and blog features, Moodle might work for you.
I'm working on a bunch of Moodle / Drupal integration stuff right now. We have clients who want to use both together. It's all built on D6, and should be in the drupal.org CVS repository in the next month or two.
On the other hand, one could develop the necessary additional features supported by Moodle right in Drupal. That just hasn't been done yet.
..chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:45 AM, sivaji j.g sivaji2009@gmail.com wrote:
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
-- Thanks a lot
http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Totally agree. Nothing can beat the flexibility of Drupal. We too have integrated Drupal and Moodle, Used Drupal for all the content and business rules and ecom, Moodle for rendering SCORM courses and the brilliant Quiz engine.
Shyamala
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:41 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
It depends on what you want to do. Moodle is not a "content management system" (CMS), if one can consider Drupal to be that. Moodle is a "course management system" (unfortunately, the same 3 initials CMS). Moodle handles courses, assignments, grading, etc. Moodle does have some more generic features, but Drupal is far more flexible.
So if you want a content management system, Drupal is the obvious choice. If you want a system that has some more specific educational capabilities, but has some very simple forum and blog features, Moodle might work for you.
I'm working on a bunch of Moodle / Drupal integration stuff right now. We have clients who want to use both together. It's all built on D6, and should be in the drupal.org CVS repository in the next month or two.
On the other hand, one could develop the necessary additional features supported by Moodle right in Drupal. That just hasn't been done yet.
..chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:45 AM, sivaji j.g sivaji2009@gmail.com wrote:
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
-- Thanks a lot
http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Even I completely agree with you people. I don't have anything like Drupal Vs. Moodle. While one is a completely generic solution and provides a tool box and basic building material for making something, Moodle is a specific solution to Learning Management Task ONLY.
Definitely I don't have any doubts in the capabilities of Drupal over here. It must be possible to implement everything we can do using Moodle (And I am a big fan of Drupal for not being a system geared towards a specific work, that's why I am here ! ), but that needs work-arounds. Where Moodle already presents itself as an out-of-the-box solution for specifically Learning Management Tasks. I am not talking about making an informative website for the college using Moodle. It's just the Learning Management part of it, where teachers can assign student with some work, different kinds of evaluation schemes, quizes etc. and similarly students can join some courses, discuss upon some topics. submit assignments given to them etc.
That's the only reason I am thinking about a solution where Drupal and Moodle are integrated, having a student sign in only once to get authenticated on both the systems, where I could have Moodle as an LMS and Drupal for all other functional requirements.
-Jai
2008/11/26 Shyamala Rajaram shyamala@netlinkindia.com
Totally agree. Nothing can beat the flexibility of Drupal. We too have integrated Drupal and Moodle, Used Drupal for all the content and business rules and ecom, Moodle for rendering SCORM courses and the brilliant Quiz engine.
Shyamala
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:41 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
It depends on what you want to do. Moodle is not a "content management system" (CMS), if one can consider Drupal to be that. Moodle is a "course management system" (unfortunately, the same 3 initials CMS). Moodle handles courses, assignments, grading, etc. Moodle does have some more generic features, but Drupal is far more flexible.
So if you want a content management system, Drupal is the obvious choice. If you want a system that has some more specific educational capabilities, but has some very simple forum and blog features, Moodle might work for you.
I'm working on a bunch of Moodle / Drupal integration stuff right now. We have clients who want to use both together. It's all built on D6, and should be in the drupal.org CVS repository in the next month or two.
On the other hand, one could develop the necessary additional features supported by Moodle right in Drupal. That just hasn't been done yet.
..chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:45 AM, sivaji j.g sivaji2009@gmail.com wrote:
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
-- Thanks a lot
http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Many schools, including ours use Yale's Central Authentication Services (CAS) server to provide single sign-on between drupal sites and moodle sites. There is a CAS module that can help but you'd still need to implement a CAS server. Current versions of Moodle support CAS out of the box IIRC.
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Jai Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:18 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Even I completely agree with you people. I don't have anything like Drupal Vs. Moodle. While one is a completely generic solution and provides a tool box and basic building material for making something, Moodle is a specific solution to Learning Management Task ONLY.
Definitely I don't have any doubts in the capabilities of Drupal over here. It must be possible to implement everything we can do using Moodle (And I am a big fan of Drupal for not being a system geared towards a specific work, that's why I am here ! ), but that needs work-arounds. Where Moodle already presents itself as an out-of-the-box solution for specifically Learning Management Tasks. I am not talking about making an informative website for the college using Moodle. It's just the Learning Management part of it, where teachers can assign student with some work, different kinds of evaluation schemes, quizes etc. and similarly students can join some courses, discuss upon some topics. submit assignments given to them etc.
That's the only reason I am thinking about a solution where Drupal and Moodle are integrated, having a student sign in only once to get authenticated on both the systems, where I could have Moodle as an LMS and Drupal for all other functional requirements.
-Jai
2008/11/26 Shyamala Rajaram shyamala@netlinkindia.com
Totally agree. Nothing can beat the flexibility of Drupal. We too have
integrated Drupal and Moodle, Used Drupal for all the content and business rules and ecom, Moodle for rendering SCORM courses and the brilliant Quiz engine.
Shyamala
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:41 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
It depends on what you want to do. Moodle is not a "content management system" (CMS), if one can consider Drupal to be that. Moodle is a "course management system" (unfortunately, the same 3 initials CMS). Moodle handles courses, assignments, grading, etc. Moodle does have some more generic features, but Drupal is far more flexible.
So if you want a content management system, Drupal is the obvious choice. If you want a system that has some more specific educational capabilities, but has some very simple forum and blog features, Moodle
might work for you.
I'm working on a bunch of Moodle / Drupal integration stuff right now. We have clients who want to use both together. It's all built on D6,
and should be in the drupal.org CVS repository in the next month or two.
On the other hand, one could develop the necessary additional features
supported by Moodle right in Drupal. That just hasn't been done yet.
..chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:45 AM, sivaji j.g sivaji2009@gmail.com
wrote:
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be
integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
-- Thanks a lot
http://ubuntuslave.blogspot.com/
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
The OpenID plugin/module for Moodle also supports single sign-on, although if one wants to use the Drupal OpenID provider module, it needs a few patches to work correctly.
Yes, Moodle 1.9 support CAS out of the box, although you will still need a CAS server.
-- ..chris
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 10:11 AM, Metzler, David metzlerd@evergreen.edu wrote:
Many schools, including ours use Yale's Central Authentication Services (CAS) server to provide single sign-on between drupal sites and moodle sites. There is a CAS module that can help but you'd still need to implement a CAS server. Current versions of Moodle support CAS out of the box IIRC.
Dave
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Jai Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 5:18 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Even I completely agree with you people. I don't have anything like Drupal Vs. Moodle. While one is a completely generic solution and provides a tool box and basic building material for making something, Moodle is a specific solution to Learning Management Task ONLY.
Definitely I don't have any doubts in the capabilities of Drupal over here. It must be possible to implement everything we can do using Moodle (And I am a big fan of Drupal for not being a system geared towards a specific work, that's why I am here ! ), but that needs work-arounds. Where Moodle already presents itself as an out-of-the-box solution for specifically Learning Management Tasks. I am not talking about making an informative website for the college using Moodle. It's just the Learning Management part of it, where teachers can assign student with some work, different kinds of evaluation schemes, quizes etc. and similarly students can join some courses, discuss upon some topics. submit assignments given to them etc.
That's the only reason I am thinking about a solution where Drupal and Moodle are integrated, having a student sign in only once to get authenticated on both the systems, where I could have Moodle as an LMS and Drupal for all other functional requirements.
-Jai
2008/11/26 Shyamala Rajaram shyamala@netlinkindia.com
Totally agree. Nothing can beat the flexibility of Drupal. We too have
integrated Drupal and Moodle, Used Drupal for all the content and business rules and ecom, Moodle for rendering SCORM courses and the brilliant Quiz engine.
Shyamala
-----Original Message----- From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Chris Johnson Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 8:41 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
It depends on what you want to do. Moodle is not a "content management system" (CMS), if one can consider Drupal to be that. Moodle is a "course management system" (unfortunately, the same 3 initials CMS). Moodle handles courses, assignments, grading, etc. Moodle does have some more generic features, but Drupal is far more flexible.
So if you want a content management system, Drupal is the obvious choice. If you want a system that has some more specific educational capabilities, but has some very simple forum and blog features, Moodle
might work for you.
I'm working on a bunch of Moodle / Drupal integration stuff right now. We have clients who want to use both together. It's all built on D6,
and should be in the drupal.org CVS repository in the next month or two.
On the other hand, one could develop the necessary additional features
supported by Moodle right in Drupal. That just hasn't been done yet.
..chris
On Wed, Nov 26, 2008 at 3:45 AM, sivaji j.g sivaji2009@gmail.com
wrote:
I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be
integrated in some way.
lol, i dont think that other CMS will be as flexible as drupal :P.
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Quoting Jai mail@jaipandya.com:
Bill, Thanks for the link to drupal-education group. Now, I am also a member of it. I found it very informative and some of the group posts instantly solved my confusions. Also, here I am more concerned about a public facing website using drupal with the facilities I listed in my first mail. For the collaborative/learning environment I find moodle to be a good out-of-the-box solution. I was searching for the ways so that moodle and drupal could be integrated in some way.
Jai, I don't have the reference link in front of me that Bill gave you but wanted to point you to http://elearning.psu.edu/drupalineducation/moodle as a good reference.
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Try the node reference module for hierarchical content.
Giving user s permissions to edit own content could be configured through access control.
Shyamala
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From: support-bounces@drupal.org [mailto:support-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Jai Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 6:47 PM To: support@drupal.org Subject: [SPAM] Re: [support] College Website Migrating to Drupal
Thanks Shyamala...
Right now I am giving time to the learning curve required by the Views module. Views and CCK look like essential for any web portal with Drupal. According to the knowledge I have, I can figure out that I can easily fetch 5 top stories from the news and events content types.
Organic Groups module looks awesome from managing groups along with permissions.
Now what I am really looking here is a kind of module that helps me in creation of hierarchical content for each user. e.g. a user creates four content nodes, then each node could have 3 child nodes each. That node could be of any type. Say Video, Gallery Pages, Class Notes, Resume etc. Permissions over each such content created by user is very important. As for example a student should not be able to edit the content created by other student or a society-head of the college.
Also I am looking for a way there so that I could list each user's space with a URL like "http://collegedomain/studentpages/studentname".
-Jai
2008/11/23 Shyamala Rajaram shyamala@netlinkindia.com
Hi,
The below modules should help.
Organic Groups: http://drupal.org/project/og
Enable users to create and manage their own 'groups'. Each group can have subscribers, and maintains a group home page where subscribers communicate amongst themselves. They do so by posting the usual node types: blog, story, page, etc. A block is shown on the group home page which facilitates these posts. The block also provides summary information about the group.
Groups may be selective or not. Selective groups require approval in order to become a member, or even invitation -only groups. There are lots of preferences to configure groups as you need.
Groups get their own theme, language, taxonomy, and so on. Integrates well and depends upon Views module
Views: http://drupal.org/project/views
This tool is essentially a smart query builder that, given enough information, can build the proper query, execute it, and display the results. It has four modes, plus a special mode, and provides an impressive amount of functionality from these modes.
and CCK: http://drupal.org/project/cck
CCK, will help us create custom node types.
Shyamala
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