Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom module.
In custom module, I have to make use of drupal_mail() to send email. Now do I need to loop through 5000 times and send the mail, or is there any way I can send mail to 5000 users.
Can I put 5000 email ids in CC or BCC . If so, with drupal_mail, how can I put the mail ids in CC or BCC list. Is there any limit how many email ids I can put in CC / BCC.
Note: Once I tried to sending 3500 mails, in a for loop. Each email id I did put in to field. Looks some of the users did not get email. I am wondering what is wrong and why some users did not get mail.
Thanks kamal
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
On 2013-05-28 09:35, Kamal Palei wrote:
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
ISPs always have limitations for EMail sending. There is no predefined rule. They are always affraid to be blacklisted. Sending massive EMail is touchy.
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Hi Steve Could not understand last part. * "Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. " * How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler skessler@denverdataman.comwrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a
custom
module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a
custom
module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
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Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
1. Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
2. Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a
custom
module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
-- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
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Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: > Dear All > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom > module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
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Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well.
Mandrill (www.mandrill.com) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
> On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: > > Dear All > > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. > > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a > custom > > module. > > Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? > Say Mailman, for example. > > -- > RMA. > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >
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Hi Steve In your earlier mail you mentioned, "Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. "
I tried to look at message module, looks it is large one. Can you give some idea how the queue stuff is implemented. Is it that I will store details in mysql and will dispatch mails at certain intervals..., I am new to these things, kindly give me more details..
And I assume, if I use mandrill or Amazon SES, probably queueing is not required as I read Amazon SES does queuing itself (read from SES documentation), Mandrill not sure.
Best Regards Kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steve Kessler skessler@denverdataman.comwrote:
Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well.
Mandrill (www.mandrill.com) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.comwrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby > The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, > filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in > this case. > > Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can > send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway. > > > Best Regards > kamal > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < > mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote: > >> On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: >> > Dear All >> > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. >> > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a >> custom >> > module. >> >> Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? >> Say Mailman, for example. >> >> -- >> RMA. >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >
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Kamal,
I will be honest I do not know how to profile what the max would be for Drupal. I would think that it would depend on a lot of factors from how busy the site is to how messages are being sent etc.
Message uses the Drupal Batch API for its queues I believe.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.
-Steve
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve In your earlier mail you mentioned, "Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. "
I tried to look at message module, looks it is large one. Can you give some idea how the queue stuff is implemented. Is it that I will store details in mysql and will dispatch mails at certain intervals..., I am new to these things, kindly give me more details..
And I assume, if I use mandrill or Amazon SES, probably queueing is not required as I read Amazon SES does queuing itself (read from SES documentation), Mandrill not sure.
Best Regards Kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steve Kessler <skessler@denverdataman.com
wrote:
Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well.
Mandrill (www.mandrill.com) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.comwrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
> Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails > consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module > and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out > of Drupal. > > Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal > so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. > > -Steve > On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com > wrote: > >> Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby >> The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, >> filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in >> this case. >> >> Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we >> can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway. >> >> >> Best Regards >> kamal >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < >> mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote: >> >>> On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: >>> > Dear All >>> > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. >>> > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from >>> a custom >>> > module. >>> >>> Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an >>> alternative? >>> Say Mailman, for example. >>> >>> -- >>> RMA. >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >> >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >
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Hi Drupal Experts Can anybody point out how do we implement queueing in Drupal when we want to send more emails...
kamal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Steve Kessler skessler@denverdataman.comwrote:
Kamal,
I will be honest I do not know how to profile what the max would be for Drupal. I would think that it would depend on a lot of factors from how busy the site is to how messages are being sent etc.
Message uses the Drupal Batch API for its queues I believe.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.
-Steve
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve In your earlier mail you mentioned, "Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. "
I tried to look at message module, looks it is large one. Can you give some idea how the queue stuff is implemented. Is it that I will store details in mysql and will dispatch mails at certain intervals..., I am new to these things, kindly give me more details..
And I assume, if I use mandrill or Amazon SES, probably queueing is not required as I read Amazon SES does queuing itself (read from SES documentation), Mandrill not sure.
Best Regards Kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well.
Mandrill (www.mandrill.com) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.comwrote:
Hi,
Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server.
If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
> Hi Steve > Could not understand last part. > * > "Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal > so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. " > * > How it will be helpful? > One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only > it will be useful.. > > Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to > send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may > block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and > buy more email options.. > > Regards > kamal > > > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < > skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote: > >> Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails >> consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module >> and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out >> of Drupal. >> >> Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal >> so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. >> >> -Steve >> On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com >> wrote: >> >>> Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby >>> The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, >>> filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in >>> this case. >>> >>> Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we >>> can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway. >>> >>> >>> Best Regards >>> kamal >>> >>> >>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < >>> mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: >>>> > Dear All >>>> > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. >>>> > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from >>>> a custom >>>> > module. >>>> >>>> Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an >>>> alternative? >>>> Say Mailman, for example. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> RMA. >>>> -- >>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >
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On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Drupal Experts Can anybody point out how do we implement queueing in Drupal when we want to send more emails...
kamal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Steve Kessler <skessler@denverdataman.com
wrote:
Kamal,
I will be honest I do not know how to profile what the max would be for Drupal. I would think that it would depend on a lot of factors from how busy the site is to how messages are being sent etc.
Message uses the Drupal Batch API for its queues I believe.
Sorry I cannot be of more help.
-Steve
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Steve In your earlier mail you mentioned, "Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. "
I tried to look at message module, looks it is large one. Can you give some idea how the queue stuff is implemented. Is it that I will store details in mysql and will dispatch mails at certain intervals..., I am new to these things, kindly give me more details..
And I assume, if I use mandrill or Amazon SES, probably queueing is not required as I read Amazon SES does queuing itself (read from SES documentation), Mandrill not sure.
Best Regards Kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well.
Mandrill (www.mandrill.com) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" vinay@vinayras.com wrote:
Hi,
You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/
Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent.
You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website.
Regards Vinay
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.comwrote:
Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please...
Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service
Where from I will get configuration details
I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case...
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav vinay@vinayras.comwrote:
> Hi, > > Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of > emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need > to configure your sending server. > > If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best > option. > > Regards > Vinay > > > On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei <palei.kamal@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> Hi Steve >> Could not understand last part. >> * >> "Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with >> Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. " >> * >> How it will be helpful? >> One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only >> it will be useful.. >> >> Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to >> send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may >> block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and >> buy more email options.. >> >> Regards >> kamal >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < >> skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote: >> >>> Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails >>> consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module >>> and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out >>> of Drupal. >>> >>> Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with >>> Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. >>> >>> -Steve >>> On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby >>>> The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, >>>> filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in >>>> this case. >>>> >>>> Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we >>>> can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> Best Regards >>>> kamal >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < >>>> mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: >>>>> > Dear All >>>>> > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. >>>>> > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time >>>>> from a custom >>>>> > module. >>>>> >>>>> Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an >>>>> alternative? >>>>> Say Mailman, for example. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> RMA. >>>>> -- >>>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >>> >> >> >> -- >> [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >> > > > > -- > Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting. > > VinayRas Infotech > Web Application Development > http://www.vinayras.com > > http://www.nagpurpulse.com - The Pulse of Nagpur > http://www.simplyfreshers.com > Walkins, Jobs, Placement Papers, Companies, Forums, and much more > > -- > [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] >
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On 5/29/2013 12:06 AM, Kamal Palei wrote:
Hi Drupal Experts Can anybody point out how do we implement queueing in Drupal when we want to send more emails...
kamal
On Wed, May 29, 2013 at 9:24 AM, Steve Kessler <skessler@denverdataman.com mailto:skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Kamal, I will be honest I do not know how to profile what the max would be for Drupal. I would think that it would depend on a lot of factors from how busy the site is to how messages are being sent etc. Message uses the Drupal Batch API for its queues I believe. Sorry I cannot be of more help. -Steve On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Kamal Palei <palei.kamal@gmail.com <mailto:palei.kamal@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Steve In your earlier mail you mentioned, "Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. " I tried to look at message module, looks it is large one. Can you give some idea how the queue stuff is implemented. Is it that I will store details in mysql and will dispatch mails at certain intervals..., I am new to these things, kindly give me more details.. And I assume, if I use mandrill or Amazon SES, probably queueing is not required as I read Amazon SES does queuing itself (read from SES documentation), Mandrill not sure. Best Regards Kamal On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 5:56 PM, Steve Kessler <skessler@denverdataman.com <mailto:skessler@denverdataman.com>> wrote: Sorry I was not clearer with why you would want to use an external service. These systems are designed just for sending email and they do it very well. Mandrill (www.mandrill.com <http://www.mandrill.com>) is free for the first 12K emails per-month. There is a module that implements the full API or you can also just SMTP. -Steve On May 28, 2013 5:13 AM, "Vinay Yadav" <vinay@vinayras.com <mailto:vinay@vinayras.com>> wrote: Hi, You can find more information at http://aws.amazon.com/ses/ Amazon SES is a paid service where you pay per 1000 emails sent. You can send as many emails you want - but there are certain limits, you can read them on the website. Regards Vinay On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 3:29 PM, Kamal Palei <palei.kamal@gmail.com <mailto:palei.kamal@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Vinay Thanks for clear explanation. Some more inputs please... 1. Amason SES - Is it a paid service or free service 2. Where from I will get configuration details I assume it will allow us infinite number of emails per day. Is it the case... Best Regards kamal On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:57 PM, Vinay Yadav <vinay@vinayras.com <mailto:vinay@vinayras.com>> wrote: Hi, Steve is referring to Amason SES. You can send large amount of emails through Amazon even without hosting your website with them. You need to configure your sending server. If you have to send large amount of emails, then SES is the best option. Regards Vinay On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:52 PM, Kamal Palei <palei.kamal@gmail.com <mailto:palei.kamal@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Steve Could not understand last part. /* "Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. " */ How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful.. Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options.. Regards kamal On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler <skessler@denverdataman.com <mailto:skessler@denverdataman.com>> wrote: Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal. Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. -Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" <palei.kamal@gmail.com <mailto:palei.kamal@gmail.com>> wrote: Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case. Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway. Best Regards kamal On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby <mihamina@rktmb.org <mailto:mihamina@rktmb.org>> wrote: On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote: > Dear All > I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. > Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a custom > module. Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example. -- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting. VinayRas Infotech Web Application Development http://www.vinayras.com http://www.nagpurpulse.com - The Pulse of Nagpur http://www.simplyfreshers.com Walkins, Jobs, Placement Papers, Companies, Forums, and much more -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ] -- Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting. 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my web host has a limit of 200 emails a day. I send about 10,000/- a week. I use sendgrid as the outgoing smtp. they charge $0.10 for every 1000 emails. http://sendgrid.com/pricing/lite_plan.html. other plans http://sendgrid.com/pricing.html .
PS: I am not affiliated to sendgrid
On 28 May 2013 10:22, Kamal Palei palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Steve Could not understand last part.
"Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP. "
How it will be helpful? One need to host his site with Amazon (and it is costly), then only it will be useful..
Say somebody like me, who has gone with GoDady , incase we need to send lots of mails per day, so most probably ISP associated with GoDady may block it.., am I right here, only option I need to talk to GoDady guys and buy more email options..
Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 12:26 PM, Steve Kessler < skessler@denverdataman.com> wrote:
Drupal will not put a limit. If you are sending lots of emails consider running them in a queue. You might want to look at message module and Views Bulk Operations. This might be a good way to get the emails out of Drupal.
Mandrill and Amazon mail service both have integrations with Drupal so you do not need to be concerned about your ISP.
-Steve On May 28, 2013 12:36 AM, "Kamal Palei" palei.kamal@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Mihamina Rakotomandimby The email addresses are dynamic. I search on certain cafeterias, filter users and then send email. So mail group option is not possible in this case.
Just I wanted to know is there any limitation how many emails we can send at a time. Does ISP put any restriction anyway.
Best Regards kamal
On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Mihamina Rakotomandimby < mihamina@rktmb.org> wrote:
On 2013-05-28 08:20, Kamal Palei wrote:
Dear All I have some doubt regarding mass email in Drupal. Lets say I want to send mass email to 5000 users at a time from a
custom
module.
Is setting up a mailing list with dedicated software an alternative? Say Mailman, for example.
-- RMA. -- [ Drupal support list | http://lists.drupal.org/ ]
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