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style date differently
by david hodgkins 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

(I've spent a couple hours trying this on my own, but to no avail.) On my theme Connections, I need to have the date styled differently. It should be: day date month year, Wed Dec 14 2005 or D M d(or j) Y I have no idea what to change, or how to change it. (I have a funny feeling that template.php plays a roll in this.) While I would have loved to come up with an answer on my own, I don't think I can. The documentation in the handbook is poor. The function in the api is at http://drupaldocs.org/api/4.6/function/format_date I'd appreciate it if someone could help me with this. ~silverwing

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Rapid Theme Development was: Re: [development] Administration Survey: Theme improvements, theme help system, theme mailing list
by andre 14 Dec '05

14 Dec '05

Sorry for the cross post - but I thought I would move this discussion to the theme list. Dries Buytaert wrote: > Having to create a Drupal theme really turns me > off. > > Making it easier to create a unique, good-looking theme in a matter of > hours is a key challenge for the Drupal community. Well - the 90-10 rule applies. I get get 90% of a theme done very rapidly and have a pretty good looking site at the end of a short session (i.e. matter of hours). But, its that last 10% that takes 90% of the time. All the special cases - all the different forms - different node types - different 'sections' of a site that require a different look etc. All the tiny annoying little bumps that require ironing. That's what's a pain in the ass. But, most of this is unavoidable. This time consuming stuff isn't the fault of the themeing engine or the templates... its the natural result of people wanting to modify things because they don't want a 'stock' vanilla looking elements. They want to mod almost every detail - and that kind of modification takes time. And also keep in mind that some of these mods that make a site look 'unique' aren't just simple theme overrides - they are hacked and modified modules - that become completely new modules and/or new functionality contributed back to core modules. andre ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

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Drupal 4.7 themes are now being packaged
by Dries Buytaert 08 Dec '05

08 Dec '05

Hello world, the package scripts and project module at drupal.org have been updated to package contributed themes that are branched with the DRUPAL-4-7 tag. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

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Re: [themes] Disappearing, Reappearing text in IE
by Kobus Myburgh 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

This definately is an IE bug - I am having this on my site as well. I am busy implementing Eric's proposed solution on my site. I'll give feedback as soon as I can! Kobus >>> occy(a)occy.net 12/6/2005 3:35:09 AM >>> I'm sure it's an IE bug, try adding position:relative to the element. Trae Tao Starbow wrote: > I had a similar problem with a CSS & nested-divs based rounded corner > design. In the end I admitted temporary defeat and fell back to tables. > So, I am interested in tips on this as well. > > -t > > erik hopp wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I'm working on a project and we are running into a CSS problem where >> in Windows / IE6, on some pages and at some spots, the text will not >> show up when you load the page, however, if you highlight the text it >> appears. i have seen this before and have read a little about it but >> i was wondering if anyone has foung a solution. >> >> This seems promising, but i haven't gotten a chance to try it yet and >> i am wondering if anyone has: >> http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0103d.shtml#tweaks >> >> thanks for any help! >> >> e. >> >> > _______________________________________________ > themes mailing list > themes(a)drupal.org > http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes -- Trae "occy" McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.org/ _______________________________________________ themes mailing list themes(a)drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/themes

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CSTheme - What to do, How to proceed?
by Trae McCombs 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Below is an email I sent to someone discussing what to do with the future of the CivicSpace Theme. Feel free to comment and add ideas. In addition to #drupal-themes I also have a channel for the development and building of the CivicSpace Theme. I feel a lot of these ideas could actually serve ultimately to make for a base Theme all developers start building "Layouts" and "Skins" from. ... I wanted to layout the different tasks that are ahead of us on this CSTheme revamp. Objective: Rebuild the CivicSpace Theme so it is a solid base for building other themes on top of. Background: So, to make sure we are on the same page, currently the way we have things setup is this. - current setup - Base CivicSpace Theme - visual.css, layout.css, others... Layout - layout.css(OVERRIDES MAIN layout.css) + Pulls main CSTheme styling in Skin - custom.css(OVERRIDES MAIN visual.css) + pull Layout stuff. - proposed setup - Base CivicSpace Theme - no visual.css or layout.css Layout - layout.css (Setups up the way this layout is presented) * dictate CLASS SOURCE ORDERING??? [see below] Skin - custom.css (pulls in Layout from it's Parent Layout) Tasks: 1. Class ordering I think it would be important if there were some way a Themer could do source ordering or structuring of classes in page.tpl.php I have NO idea how this would work, but. Example: HTML: <div id="header"><h1>header</h1></div> <div id="menu"><h1>menu</h1></div> <div id="content"><h1>content</h1></div> <div id="sub-section"><h1>sub-section</h1></div> <div id="footer"><h1>footer</h1></div> Let's say a themer wanted to shuffle these around so they could achieve a different layout. It would be nice if there was some way we could accomodate these changes. Depending on floats and what-not, people might want these id's to show up in different places. How can we accomodate these different positions? You do understand we'll have layouts in the "layouts/" directory. Is there a way we could pre-configure all the different combinations of our CSS major classes: example: 1 - header, menu, content, sub-section, footer 2 - menu, header, content, sub-section, footer 3 - This doesn't work either, as that could easily lead to well over 125 combo's alone. :/ There needs to be a way where people could, in perhaps their style.css of thier Layout file put something like: #HEADER,#MENU,#CONTENT,#SUBSECTION,#FOOTER (proper names of course, these are just examples) And then it orders the areas according to what is found in that file? Does that make sense? So your Layout file has something like: /* CIVICSPACETHEME ORDERING */ /* #CONTENT,#MENU,#HEADER,#SUBSECTION,#FOOTER */ /* * =Republica Layout */ body { foo } Does that make sense? And by default, if there wasn't any SOURCE ORDERING stuff present, then it would use the default method. This makes total sense to me, but then again... heh, what do I know?[tm] This also seems like it could be the proper setup for a Wizard to allow people to change areas. Not that we are even talking Wizard stuff now. ... 2. Default Skin Selection Currently, to my knowledge, and the guy who was working on CivicSpace Theme before me (Chris Messina), there is no way to "call" the skin you want to be the default skin, in a way that Drupal will understand. We need to get visual.css out of the base CSTheme directory, and put it in an actual Skin. As well as any other CSS that may get called in the default BASE setup. All of these need to be on a per-Skin basis. ... 3. custom.tpl.php This might be a future feature, but if it's easy to add, I don't see why we don't add it now. The Problem If people want to add custom php to their theme, a lot of time they hack up the page.tpl.php file. When they do this, they break from the default CivicSpace Theme distro and make themeselves Non-upgradeable. If there was a call to say a custom.tpl.php file, that we did NOT ship, but simply refered to, then they could put all of their custom php inside this file and not have to worry about it upon upgrading. ... 4. Javascript calls [on/off] I think we should probably have a javascript.tpl.php that ships with the CSTheme. What we do is, we take all of the javascript crap out of page.tpl.php, and include a toggle switch or config or something that makes it easy for people to enable or disable the javascript stuff in the theme. I personally completely dislike any javascript to load in my themes. I want clean, fast and clear of junk. ... In conclusion, I think these fixes should probably be easy to do. But then again, I don't know how to code do I? ;) Jeremy, please hop on #cstheme if you can from time to time so we can work on some of these issues. Thanks bunches. Trae PS. I think this would be a good email to send to CS-Dev and the Drupal Themes mailing list. What about you guys? -- Trae "occy" McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.org/

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Example phptemplate theme
by Rowan Kerr 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

I pasted this in the IRC channel yesterday but thought I might as well send it to the list as well. This is an example theme I've come up with that tries to implement as many of the features of PHPTemplate as possible, and respect as many of the settings as possible. It's XHTML 1 and pure CSS.. and hopefully structured in a useful way. I think it's a lot cleaner in structure than bluemarine and might be a better starting point for new themers? (eg: All blocks, boxes, nodes, comments have the same basic structure with a main title div and content div). Example theme: http://stasis.org/~rowan/projects/drupal-example-theme/4.6/ Discuss.. :) -Rowan

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Disappearing, Reappearing text in IE
by erik hopp 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hi. I'm working on a project and we are running into a CSS problem where in Windows / IE6, on some pages and at some spots, the text will not show up when you load the page, however, if you highlight the text it appears. i have seen this before and have read a little about it but i was wondering if anyone has foung a solution. This seems promising, but i haven't gotten a chance to try it yet and i am wondering if anyone has: http://www.zeldman.com/daily/0103d.shtml#tweaks thanks for any help! e. -- erik hopp erik|at|mediamutiny.org home/work: 401.621.2529 cell: 401.744.0970 268 knight street providence, ri 02909 http://mediamutiny.org | http://quilted.org

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Subscriptions
by Dries Buytaert 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

Hello world, in just a few days, there are 61 people subscribed to this mailing list. Looks like it is going strong. That said, I wanted to let you know that I'm not subscribed to this mailing list. If something on this list requires my attention, please CC me or bring it up on development(a)drupal.org. Thanks. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

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Re: [themes] Example phptemplate theme
by Khalid B 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

I sent this earlier, but it bounced. On 12/3/05, Khalid B wrote: > ِA theme that is meant to be a starting point is Friends Electric. > > It is based on phptemplate, and is tableless. You can use the .php files > in it as a starting point too. > > The hard part with Drupal is the CSS ... > > On 12/3/05, Rowan Kerr <rowan0(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > I pasted this in the IRC channel yesterday but thought I might as well > > send it to the list as well. > > > > This is an example theme I've come up with that tries to implement as > > many of the features of PHPTemplate as possible, and respect as many > > of the settings as possible. > > > > It's XHTML 1 and pure CSS.. and hopefully structured in a useful way. > > I think it's a lot cleaner in structure than bluemarine and might be a > > better starting point for new themers? (eg: All blocks, boxes, nodes, > > comments have the same basic structure with a main title div and > > content div). > > > > Example theme: http://stasis.org/~rowan/projects/drupal-example-theme/4.6/ > > > > Discuss.. :) >

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Re: [themes] Modules CSS styles...
by Trae McCombs 03 Dec '05

03 Dec '05

John Mark Engle wrote: > Maybe, though, extending off of this, perhaps more sensible default css > should be encouraged. For modules, it should be as flexible as > possible, and fit into most themes. Sensible defaults sound good, until you start asking what is sensible. Everyone has their on opinion about what is proper white spacing, what is proper setup for thier module. In the case of eventfinder.css, it was trying to float the contents and set it to a width of 200 so it would look like a block or something inside the node area. The problem was, this code didn't work on Firefox, or Internet Explorer 6. Not exactly sure what browser this code was originally tested on. The point is, someone thought, at one time, it might be a good idea to make it look like it was, and maybe to them, it was sensible. :/ Maybe if we came up with a set of Module design standards for people to go by. You've got a good idea, it's just, how do you enforce a subjective standard. Trae -- Trae "occy" McCombs || http://occy.net/ Founder - Themes.org // Linux.com CivicSpaceLabs - http://civicspacelabs.org/

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