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Proposal: Move all dev support off this list to new StackExchange site
by Randy Fay 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

The new http://drupal.stackexchange.com is now live, and several outstanding Drupal contributors are monitoring and contributing to it. It seems like we'd get better long-term use of people's time if we did development support over there, where it's searchable, and where repeat questions can be answered by an internet search instead of everybody reading and answering the same thing over and over. And yes, I'm in favor of providing this capability on Drupal.org, as per http://drupal.org/node/1047632, but for now, what about taking dev support off this list since there's such a good alternative? -Randy -- Randy Fay Drupal Module and Site Development randy(a)randyfay.com +1 970.462.7450

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expected review time for new module?
by Sean Dague 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

I realize Drupalcon was just on, so people were pretty busy, but I'm wondering what the expected review time is for a new module? I've had review requests out for 9 days (http://drupal.org/node/1082284) and haven't gotten a bite since an initial post to put up the link + change to needs review. For someone that is just getting into this from the outside, it would be great to get some feedback here. Thanks, -Sean -- Sean Dague Learn about the Universe with the sean at dague dot net Mid-Hudson Astronomical Association http://dague.net http://midhudsonastro.org

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Re: [development] development Digest, Vol 99, Issue 60
by Karl Giesing 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

> I realize Drupalcon was just on, so people were pretty busy, but I'm > wondering what the expected review time is for a new module? I've had > review requests out for 9 days (http://drupal.org/node/1082284) and > haven't gotten a bite since an initial post to put up the link + change > to needs review.FWIW: when I applied for a Drupal CVS account, I didn't end up getting it until nine months later.After the initial review (which happened in April), I did the suggested changes, and didn't get another review until August. It went back and forth like that.Here's the issue thread itself, if you're curious:http://drupal.org/node/772756 My advice: Get all your ducks in a line before you even apply; and be very, very patient.-Karl.

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completeness module
by ahmed refaat 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

i have idea, but i don't know if it can be a module to participate with it in GSoC this year ! the idea of this module simply is to make thing like a progress bar widget or whatever it can be called, to help regular users of Drupal to complete the profile and the blog or the site installation.... any help ?!! *Ahmed Refaat* Web Developer *Computer Sciences Student at el Shorouk Academy.*

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Re: [development] #drupal and #drupal-contribute split
by Gerhard Killesreiter 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > Subject: Re: [development] #drupal and #drupal-contribute split (Was: > Re: Proposal: Move all dev support off this list to new StackExchange > site) > On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Angela Byron <drupal-devel(a)webchick.net> wrote: >> Yes, this *absolutely* happened with D7. It was an *incredibly* >> small "core" group of < 20-30 people who resulted in Drupal 7 ever >> actually shipping. Post-code freeze, which more-or-less coincided >> with this IRC policy change, I can think of only a small handful of >> new contributors who came on board who were not already involved >> previously. >> >> Now, since there's really no way to quantify data around this, it's >> difficult to say what percentage of this lack of contributors >> phenomenon was related to this policy change, what was the >> "post-code freeze blues", how much of it is steeper requirements to >> get a core patch in (e.g. tests, subsystem maintainer sign-off), >> how much of it is the fact that certain members of our community >> were paid to care about bugs (e.g. Acquians and Examiner.comians) >> and others weren't, or what exactly the breakdown there was. I'm >> sure all of these, and more, were factors. >> >> But "not have a clear effect so far"? The *freaking rolling of 7.0* >> happened in such a silo, with not even a peep about it in the main >> IRC channel, for crying out loud! How much more "us" vs. "them" can >> you possibly get? :( > > I do think you have this feeling because you were at the helm. I don't > think the small handful of people scrambling to get a release out was > any different with Drupal 6 or earlier versions. Just ask chx about > the form API's introduction and Drupal 4.7's release, I am not chx but I somehow participated... It's just a fact of life that during the last stage of the development process participation is very complicated due to the long history that most issues have. To understand that history would be very painful for a newcomer. > the story will resonate very well with you :D The only difference is > that we grew a huge base of followers who don't care as much. These people have always existed. Their relative proportion may have increased. Cheers, Gerhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2HRDoACgkQfg6TFvELooQY3ACeOOj3UVVpp7m9s/+2YjXB4IDd oIIAnA6BvlpTbQOzNl22Of6BGVtp3vM0 =KOo6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: [development] #drupal and #drupal-contribute split
by Gerhard Killesreiter 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > From: "Daniel F. Kudwien" <news(a)unleashedmind.com> > Subject: Re: [development] #drupal and #drupal-contribute split (Was: > Re: Proposal: Move all dev support off this list to new StackExchange > site) > To: development(a)drupal.org > > > But that's just one of many possible use-cases. Given a proper > framework and API, most of what has been mentioned and what is flowing > around in terms of ideas to improve the user/support/help experience > could be implemented in various ways. Why have all of those sheer > endless discussions about how to do right to please everyone? Of which > most still have no result after years of discussion? Just let there be > 1-10 experimental apps per problem space that attempt to solve it, and > while doing so, directly solve the problem for the time being. The best > approach wins in the end. > > Bottom line: The apps approach provides many benefits. Instead of > deciding top-down, the community freely decides bottom-up, without > requiring a top-level decision at all. This is already the case, but not well enough utilized: Reasonable improvements to drupal.org are always appreciated. Work is underway to make contributing easier through providing sanitized snapshots and development servers. Cheers, Gerhard -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.10 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAk2HQs4ACgkQfg6TFvELooSDlQCgu0Hjc6ftNEVNp/i0JOfJeNdd adIAn1viFISqhpfKKotX4IYhHF/7Isa2 =mfpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Hook_entity_view ajax loaded content
by Idan Arbel 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

Hello, I'm using hook_entity_view() to modify and image field and display only the first image. I've encountered a problem that with ajax loaded content, the hook isn't fired and I get the unchanged field. This is happening using drupal commerce and an loaded attribute information, you can take a look here: http://premiumbaby.co.il/koziol/drupal-7.0/quick-buy/8 at first it is loaded with only one image, but if you change the attribute from white to anything else, and then back to white, you'll see that all the images are loaded. How do I make sure the hook is called on each load? Thanks Idan

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IRC changeover to XMPP?
by Cameron Eagans 21 Mar '11

21 Mar '11

With all the discussion about IRC channels, coupled with the fact that we're no longer using a crufty old system like CVS, I have to wonder: is it time to refresh our real-time communication platform? I propose that we bring up a Jabber server that supports multi-user conferencing and deprecate IRC. What do you think? Cameron

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Breadcrumb and menu issues
by nan wich 20 Mar '11

20 Mar '11

I have Views generating a list of links to all schools in the system. That works fine, even the glossary style stuff (neat stuff, Earl). However, when someone clicks on the link and the node shows up, there is no breadcrumb (except "Home") or menu displayed. I surmised that this is because those nodes are not in a menu. The menu is generated by menu_tree_page_data(). So, I thought I'd get around that by adding a menu item for each school below (i.e. as a child of) the "All Schools" menu item. I know how to specify the menu name, but how does one say that this item should be below such-and-such a parent? The parent has a link_path of node/206, so I can't very well make the path "node/206/node/118". Given that there are 130+ schools, this may make the menu unwieldy. Nancy E. Wichmann, PMP (781) 697-6344 Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere. -- Dr. Martin L. King, Jr.

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Re: [development] Testing, 1 2 3 - let's see if this email bounces!
by Joel Farris 19 Mar '11

19 Mar '11

>> This is a test email to try and see if incoming mailinglist email from a non-subscribed email address gets through, and if it does not, is there a 'bounced' message returned to the sender to let them know that their message has dropped off the face of the earth? >> >> I'll let you all know what happens in a followup email. Here goes! >> -- >> Joel Farris > > > xxxxxx(a)example.com, You are not allowed to post to this mailing list, and your message has > been automatically rejected. If you think that your messages are > being rejected in error, contact the mailing list owner at > development-owner(a)drupal.org. Ok, good. Now that Killes has tweaked the Mailman settings, incoming messages from an email address that isn't actually registered on the mailing list will now bounce, and the sender will receive the above error message, rather than having their email disappear into The Abyss. I only discovered that this problem existed because I've been sending dozens of emails to the dev list for quite some years without paying attention to my own originating address, and apparently not a single one has made it to the list. All this time, I thought my words were being read but nobody ever responded. Now I know the truth; no one could hear me. :) Thanks for fixing this with me, Killes! You rock. -- Joel Farris TransparaTech, Inc "There are no mysteries here."

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