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[drupal-devel] [bug] Some URLs get ?PHPSESSID added to them
by moshe weitzman 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/4109 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/4109 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: base system Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Eric Scouten Reported by: Eric Scouten Updated by: moshe weitzman -Status: patch (code needs review) +Status: patch (ready to be committed) yeah, i think that is cruft. moshe weitzman Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 13 Nov 2003 00:22:39 +0000 : Eric Scouten Some URLs get ?PHPSESSID=(whatever) added to them. I find this distracting and unnecessary for anonymous users. Submitting patch #147 for consideration to remove this issue. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:39:25 +0000 : Kjartan This is a local PHP configuration issue. Don't see it as something Drupal should mess with, the less PHP settings Drupal messes with the better. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:11:33 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org Could you elaborate which config setting one has to tweak? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Dec 2003 15:18:11 +0000 : Anonymous php_flag session.use_trans_sid off php_flag session.use_only_cookies on The first will disable the automatic addition of the session ID to internal URLs, the second will remove support for passing session IDs in URLs. See http://php.net/session [1] for more info. BTW the above settings are for Apache, in PHP.ini you should not add the php_flag part, and you should use = inbetween the name and value... [1] http://php.net/session ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 07 Jun 2004 22:42:06 +0000 : shane It seems that Drupal (via the .htaccess file) already "messes with" a bunch of PHP settings. For example, my Drupal install "came with" these messed with settings: php_value register_globals 0 php_value track_vars 1 php_value short_open_tag 1 php_value magic_quotes_gpc 0 php_value magic_quotes_runtime 0 php_value magic_quotes_sybase 0 php_value arg_separator.output "&" php_value session.cache_expire 200000 php_value session.gc_maxlifetime 200000 php_value session.cookie_lifetime 2000000 php_value session.auto_start 0 php_value session.save_handler user php_value session.cache_limiter none php_value allow_call_time_pass_reference On I'm not sure that adding two more "php_value" flags to the stock .htaccess file is going to arguably mess with more than already is. Personally I find it extremely un-professional and very un-clean to have funky PHPSESSID url strings tacked onto a majority of my URLs. I've worked extremely hard to implement clean URLs (above and beyond the already great "clean url" feature of Drupal - I don't like them being turned into muck. I'd vote that these two flags be added to the .htaccess file that is distributed with Drupal. However, I'm uncertain of the overall true impact of making these changes, so barring an technical reason - I would absolutely request this as a feature. I've implemented these in many of my production sites already (just today) - we'll see what impact they have. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 02:56:00 +0000 : marky It's a performance thing. You need to remember that while not everyone has edit access to php.ini, those of us that do control our own servers see no need for .htaccess directives that set php options. >From the Apache docs [2]: "Apache will look in every directory for .htaccess files. Thus, permitting .htaccess files causes a performance hit, whether or not you actually even use them! Also, the .htaccess file is loaded every time a document is requested." Ok, I'm lucky in that I control my own server, so I can effectively remove the .htaccess file and move its config options to php.ini and the vhost section of httpd.conf, thus speeding up the responsiveness of my server. But if you don't have that option there's nothing wrong with adding those directives to your directory .htaccess file. That's what it's for - it allows directory specific config options for those that don't have access to their server config. As Kjartan said, "the less PHP settings Drupal messes with the better". I've got to agree - as far as I'm concerned it's already big enough. The "php_value short_open_tag 1", "php_value session.auto_start 0" and "php_value session.cache_limiter none" for example serve little purpose, as they mirror the installation default settings (apart from the last, where the available options are: nocache, private or public). If you don't have the choice, use .htaccess, and add whatever directives you see fit. But please remember that not everyone uses it. Anyway, just my 2 beads. [2] http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/howto/htaccess.html#when ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 04:38:32 +0000 : cel4145 Why not add them, but commented out with an explanation? When I encountered this problem, I had to spend a little time on drupal.org finding the solution. However, I am familiar with the .htaccess file from doing installs. If it had been included there commented out, I would have probably remembered it. After all, this is much the same way that httpd.conf functions with it's many, optional, commented out configuration options. Just makes it easier when a non-standard configuration option has to be used. Besides, I've also seen many Drupal sites with this problem. I suspect that some of those sites would have implemented these flags if they had been an option in the .htaccess file. And it looks bad. People that visit the sites that don't know any better will assume it's Drupal, not the lack of proper PHP settings. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 10:39:27 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org It wouldn't hurt if Drupal had a better documented and possibly extended .htaccess file. Those who whish not to use it should really not care... session.save_handler = user should probably included as well. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 08 Jun 2004 12:17:06 +0000 : robertDouglass If you use these settings: php_flag session.use_trans_sid off php_flag session.use_only_cookies on won't it make it so that people with cookies disabled cannot have session state? And if the PHPSESSID is in the URL, isn't that an indication that the browser being used refused to take a cookie? I'd really like clarification on this, if anyone knows the answers. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 27 Jul 2004 13:25:46 +0000 : JonBob The original issue is definitely by design, as these URLs need the session ID to preserve the session when running under the given PHP settings. A better-documented .htaccess is a different issue entirely. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 19 Aug 2004 18:04:13 +0000 : gtoddv It hasn't been mentioned in this thread or anywhere else that I can find, but this session ID issue breaks validation. I don't know is this will cause accessibility issues too. I have tried the .htaccess fix and that doesn't change anything. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 06 Nov 2004 07:17:21 +0000 : wazdog The non-validating problem is another problem with your server setup. PHP can be setup to used encoded &'s or not. Your server isn't if the url isn't validating. You'd have to talk to your server admin to fix that. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 30 Dec 2004 20:32:35 +0000 : m_freeman2004 This is what you have to include in the .htaccess file: # Fix for ?PHPSESSID in clean URLs php_value session.use_trans_sid 0 php_value session.use_only_cookies 1 # End of fix ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 01 Jun 2005 19:07:53 +0000 : dr05 The code in .htaccess file: # Fix for ?PHPSESSID in clean URLs php_value session.use_trans_sid 0 php_value session.use_only_cookies 1 # End of fix don't work! Error: "Internal Server Error!" ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:25:22 +0000 : jasonwhat Anyone else looking into this? Can one get rid of the id added onto the url but still keep the sessions going? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:16:22 +0000 : Eric Scouten dr05, what version of Apache and what OS are you using? I've been using this same patch with no problems on Mac OS X, Linux, and FreeBSD-based servers using both Apache 1.3.x and 2.0.x. Attached patch will apply these changes to .htaccess. (IMHO, this is useful for the majority of users; those who are smart enough to understand the performance issues can comment out these lines.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 06:57:18 +0000 : clydefrog You forgot the patch, Eric. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:02:26 +0000 : Eric Scouten Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/htaccess-no-session-ids.patch (383 bytes) D'oh! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:45:48 +0000 : kbahey There are cases where no parameter will fix this issue. On shared hosting systems where you do not have access to php.ini, and the hosting company has setup things in a way that they cannot be overriden. I found this out the hard way, after lobbying for the settings to be included in the init_set() statements in the settings.php prior to 4.6 being released. They are simply ignored on some hosts. On other hosts, you need to have a php.ini of your own, if suphp or SuExec is being used. In some cases, the only way to make things work is to compile your own PHP as a CGI (detailed writeup) [3]. This can have disadvantages too, such some performance impact, as well as excessive CPU utilization (hosting company may not like it). [3] http://baheyeldin.com/drupal/how-to-get-rid-of-phpsessid-in-drupal-and-othe… ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 25 Jul 2005 08:49:31 +0000 : kbahey Here is some references: issue 21170 [4], and a forum discussion [5]. [4] http://drupal.org/node/21170 [5] http://drupal.org/node/17947 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:24:47 +0000 : ufku in my case (shared hosting, ini_set() disabled) a php.ini file with only this line in it solved the problem. url_rewriter.tags = '' you should place the php.ini in your site's base directory ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 12:18:31 +0000 : djnz Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/rewrite_tags.patch (468 bytes) Drupal already attempts to change a number of values using ini_set() in settings.php, including session.use_trans_sid which should cure this problem. Unfortunately as already noted elsewhere [6], session.use_trans_sid only worked in ini_set() up to PHP 4.2.3. Rather than change the whole philosophy and change this setting in .htaccess or php.ini (neither of which work for many hosted set-ups), surely the answer is to correct settings.php as described The attached patch does just that - it is only one line. Note that session ids are still appended to the url when redirecting by Drupal eg after a POST. This is also easily patched [7], but as it is done deliberately (why?) I have left it alone. [6] http://drupal.org/node/17947#comment-36339 [7] http://drupal.org/node/25852#comment-45111 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 13:26:17 +0000 : kbahey PHPSESSIDs in the URL are a) ugly, b) negatively affects search engine indexing, and most importantly, c) is a security risk that can enable a malicious user to hijack your session. We should work on a solution to eliminate this once and for all, and for all configurations. The current approach (putting some PHP parameters in settings.php, or instructing users to change them in .htaccess or php.ini) has severe shorcomings: Whatever we do, there are bound to be some configurations that no amount of PHP parameters will cure. Some hosts deny their users the ability to change some or all of the above parameters. I discovered this the painful way with many hosts I have used, and friends and clients I have helped. I think we need to rethink this whole session thing, in a way that we are not dependant on idiosyncracies of various hosts and PHP configurations. Perhaps attempt to set a DRUPAL cookie and not maintain a session unless we are able to set it. This way we know that we will not have a PHPSESSID in the URL. If we are not able to set the cookie, then we allow only anonymous access that is sessionless.. I am not sure if that will work or not: what other options do we have here? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:02:19 +0000 : djnz I am convinced that ini_set('url_rewriter.tags','') is the answer. I find it hard to believe that any host would go to the trouble to disable this (not just a matter of setting compile time paramaters, you would have to hack the PHP source; and why would they?) - certainly no cPanel host I have used does. The reason the code currently in settings.php doesn't work is not because hosts disable it, it is because PHP does not support it. RTFM. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 07 Aug 2005 22:23:59 +0000 : djnz Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/trans_sid.patch (1.4 KB) After further thought, there really is no point in appending the SID to a redirect url, so the attached patch solves this problem too. If anyone has a problem with session IDs in URLs after applying this patch, I'll offer them free hosting myself. Maybe. ;) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 03:14:41 +0000 : kbahey You are right about the fact that the use of PHPSESSID in the URL on a redirect is totally unnecessary. That line should be removed from the base code altogether, there is no excuse for it. As for url_rewriter.tags, I am not 100% sure, but I tried it with someone who was facing difficulties, and it did not work as far as I can recall. In any case, your solution should go in base. It cannot hurt, unless some host has disabled it.

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[drupal-devel] [bug] Handle full URLs in url() and l()
by jsloan 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/10888 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/10888 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: base system Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Bèr Kessels Reported by: jhriggs Updated by: jsloan Status: patch (code needs work) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/external_urls_2.patch (3.67 KB) I'm not sure what the final plans are for this in the CVS so I have developed a patch for use on 4.6.2 I decided to add a parameter named $external that is passed to url() function. The default is FALSE so this should not break any existing calls to either l() or url(). I have also refactored url() so that it is much easier to understand and extend --- I'm thinking of Bèr Kessels intention to "allow, for example, weblinks, to track clicks, or to look up a permission and allow or disallow users to follow a link" " Since the parameter is passed to activate the external url there is no need for regex or strpos, this should be handled by the calling function and then set the $external parameter to TRUE For example I have patched the theme_menu_item_link() function in menu.inc to accept external urls: <?php function theme_menu_item_link($item, $link_item) { // this next line was added so that a menu item could point to the default home $link_item['path'] = preg_replace('/^\/$/','',$link_item['path']); // this next line was added so that a menu item could point to an external url $external = (preg_match('<^[a-z]+://>', $link_item['path'])) ? TRUE : FALSE ; return l($item['title'], $link_item['path'], array_key_exists('description', $item) ? array('title' => $items['description']) : array(),NULL,NULL,FALSE,FALSE,$external); } ?> I hope that this patch will spur some solutions - I'm using this now in production but have not tested extensively across every scenario. thanks jim sloan jsloan Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 16 Sep 2004 15:01:24 +0000 : jhriggs Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/full_url.patch (1.97 KB) This little patch allows full URLs to be used for the url() and l() functions, giving modules a single interface for creating links. Currently, modules must use l() for drupal links and raw HTML for external links. This patch changes url() to handle -- basically pass through -- full URLs while still doing the proper handling of internal paths and works with clean URLs enabled or disabled. It also shortens (and hopefully simplifies) the url() code a bit. Some examples of calls that now work: <?php l('a link', 'some/path'); // same as before l('an external link', 'http://drupal.org/'); l('full with query', 'http://google.com/search?q=define:foo'); l('full with separate query', 'http://google.com/search', array(), 'q=define:foo'); // same link as above l('full with fragment', 'http://drupal.org/node/5942#comment-12374'); l('full with separate fragment', 'http://drupal.org/node/5942', array(), NULL, 'comment-12374'); // same link as above ?> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 30 Sep 2004 11:09:30 +0000 : moshe weitzman +1. less HTML in code is a good thing for readability, if nothing else. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 24 Jan 2005 20:06:26 +0000 : mathias Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/external_urls.patch (838 bytes) Revisiting this issue one year later shows we're almost there. The only thing that's left is the ability to handle external urls when clean_urls is disabled. Once implemented, menu.module can happily accept external urls and not just Drupal paths, making the menu system much more attractive to end users. I'll update the menu.module docs if this patch (or an alternative solution) is accepted. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 13 Mar 2005 22:36:34 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/external_urls_0.patch (909 bytes) Updated from Drupal root directory. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 14 Mar 2005 00:05:17 +0000 : gordon +1 This is a good thing for people who can't using clean urls. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 02 Apr 2005 06:23:10 +0000 : TDobes This patch seems like a good idea, but does not apply anymore. Also, shouldn't the comments for l() and url() be updated to indicate that the functions will work with both internal and external URL's? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 02 Apr 2005 07:25:13 +0000 : asimmonds Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/external_urls_1.patch (897 bytes) The &'s had been changed to & amp; , here's a valid patch ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 12 May 2005 14:57:07 +0000 : adrian This is a new patch against cvs that allows url() to create external links, with the side-effect that menu can now be used to make external links. Also closes http://drupal.org/node/10177 This will be even more important with the primary links menu integration. (This patch already cleans up a special case in phptemplate for that). Killes benchmarked this, and it turns out the difference is negligible. Requests per second: 1.33 [#/sec] (mean) = with patch Requests per second: 1.31 [#/sec] (mean) = without patch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 12 May 2005 14:59:57 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org I had benchmarked /node as anon user without cache. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 04:50:08 +0000 : Steven +1 on the idea of this patch. It allows people to use l() for external links. However, I don't like the implementation. Running that complicated regexp for every url() call is simply wasteful. 95% or more of url() calls have a fixed string as parameter and point to Drupal's own paths. I suggest we create an url_external() wrapper around url() which allows external URLs. Any path which we want to allow external URLs in can use url_external() instead. The places where we use it will not be many anyway. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 05:05:55 +0000 : gordon splitting into url() url_external is not a good idea. The main reason for this patch that I see is for putting external urls into the navigation menu using the menu.module, and if all goes to plan, the primary and secondary menus. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 06:00:01 +0000 : Steven gordon: I still think this is a bit excessive. Perhaps instead of valid_url() we could use a simpler regexp !^[a-z]://!i or even strpos('://'). ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 06:15:36 +0000 : gordon I am not says that it is or is not excessive. I was just saying that this is where it is going to be used, so creating url() and url_external() is not really an option ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 06:57:53 +0000 : Bèr Kessels we /do/ need an external_url() thing. The links bundle (handling weblinks and the likes) willprovide this /and/ need this. People will get all sorts of tools to do /stuff/ with external links, like add permissions, track clicks etc. depending on the modules they have and the settings. All outgoing weblinks, should somehow respect those. Patches for core are coming, though. On top of that, a external_l() finction is simple. And if people want them in primary links they can do the regexping /before/ the function, not /in/ the function. The calling code can decide whether to call l() or external_l(), instead of putting logic in l() that is unneded 95% of the times. But i hereby promise to introduce such a function tbefore the end of this week :) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 07:17:47 +0000 : gordon The only thing I do not see in this plan is how with this work with the menu module and the navigation menu. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 25 May 2005 10:04:12 +0000 : adrian Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/url_external_links.patch (1.75 KB) What happened to the patch i uploaded ? It doesn't use a complex regexp, but uses strpos($url, '://') < 5. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 26 May 2005 06:19:32 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Allthough this works, is clean AND does what it should do, I still am in favour of a better nitegrated solution. So please do not yet commit this, untill I upload my patch. We can then discuss what solution to take. It will not differ a big lot though. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 26 May 2005 08:39:32 +0000 : adrian is this the patch where you want to introduce an el() to allow for counting of external links ? That's a different patch altogether. This is primarily about stopping url() from not handling external links when there is no good reason for it to do so. Your el() has a very specific use in the weblinks api, and should probably be included with it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 26 May 2005 16:18:31 +0000 : Bèr Kessels Yes, that el() But let me explain why i am anxious for my solution: el(), by default will not do much, in fact it will just be an URL()-clone but one that allows outgoing links. But it has a hook-caller. Again: by default it does nothing much, for there will not be any hooks around in core. It will allow, for example, weblinks, to track clicks, or to look up a permission and allow or disallow users to follow a link. Now, the whole issue, IMO is, that we should *not* provide two ways for handling external URLS, but rather a single one, that is weblink-safe. If we would introduce URL() with outgoing links-capabilities, we can no longer track any outgoing URLs trough them. We will then have two ways for handling outgoing URLs, resulting in inconsistencies, and confused users. (hey, my anonymous users can follow link foo, while i have "follow outgig links" permission disabled for them). (BTW weblink will soon be renamed into links, just for reference) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 30 Jun 2005 11:06:11 +0000 : adrian Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/url_external_links_0.patch (824 bytes) I've updated the patch. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:12:36 +0000 : adrian spoke to dries about this patch, and apart from the incomplete patch I uploaded, there are about a dozen instances where in-line html is used were l() would suffice. I will be cleaning them up and submitting a new patch soon. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 18:44:03 +0000 : moshe weitzman hopefully adrian or someone else will chase down the remaining urls which should use this function. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:25:08 +0000 : jsloan I've come to this party late but would like to see a patch soon... I've used the patch from Adrian (#15) but this did not work correctly in my setup (IIS 5.0 / no clean urls) I applied it against 4.6.2 and cvs. Where is the latest patch that I can test ... I'll throw some time at this because I need it for a module used within our Intranet.

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[drupal-devel] [feature] Single step account creation and login
by killes 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/4942 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/4942 Project: Drupal -Version: 4.6.2 +Version: cvs Component: user.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: amanuel Reported by: mathias Updated by: killes(a)www.drop.org Status: patch (code needs review) I actually disagree with Dries and Steven. I let firefox maintain all my passwords and couldn't care less what my actual pw for any Drupal based website is. If we let the user provide a password then I at least woudl want to havd Drupal suggest one for me. killes(a)www.drop.org Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 03 Jan 2004 23:49:54 +0000 : mathias Under special circumstances, i would like a new user to be able to choose their own password and be automatically logged into the site without needing to check their email. I feel this is necessary for my ecommerce module, where after anonymous users are ready to "Proceed to checkout", they need to create an user account to continue. It is tedious for the customer if they have to stop, check their email, log into the site and then resume the checkout process. I'm game to code this (if this has potential to be part of the core), i just need some feedback on the best way to tweak user_register. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 04 Jan 2004 06:18:07 +0000 : moshe weitzman +1 for this. I don't think you will get much objection to this much needed usability enhancement. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 05:48:40 +0000 : mathias Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/user.module-quick_acount.patch (7.11 KB) This is a prototype patch to make sure i'm going in the right direction. I feel this patch is about 95% complete, the outstanding issue being page redirection after quick-account creation. It introduces and new option under the user admin settings "Public registrations" called "Visitors can create accounts and sign in immediately.", allowing visitors to submit their own passwords upon account creation. This is important in an ecommerce site where a new customer wants to the checkout process to be as easy and seamless as possible. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 10:22:09 +0000 : moshe weitzman i read through the patch. looks good to me. a few notes - we should still send a password via email to users who choose their ow password. with some text tweaking, we should be able to send the same welcome email to 'generated password' registratants, and 'user specified password' registrants. - I think we need a setting for minimum length of a password. the password textfield should inform users of this requirement. - you don't actually relinquish control after saying "/* Let the developer control where the user is redirected. */". i assume this part isn't finished yet. nice work. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:46:07 +0000 : flevour Are there any anti-bot checks around, e.g. randomly generated images that contain text or numbers to insert in a box? Congrats for your work :p // flevour ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:54:19 +0000 : Bèr Kessels I had another idea. that would be to filter all emailadresses (in content too) into a link to the feedback module. thus http://www.mysite.org/feedback/mailto/me/mysite.org the feedback can then print a form that can send the message to me(a)mysite.org. Would this be a good feature or not? Ber ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 13:56:36 +0000 : Bèr Kessels sorry folks. placed this in the wrong box. Was updating another feature, and reading this one (to see if it was the same one) i then, by accident, filled replyed here. :( Ber ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:49:56 +0000 : Dries Showing an image with random generated text that a user is supposed to copy, makes your website inaccessible for visually impaired: they can't be read by a screen reader. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 08 Jan 2004 17:07:02 +0000 : mathias Responding to Moshe's comments: - we should still send a password via email to users who choose their own password. with some text tweaking, we should be able to send the same welcome email to 'generated password' registratants, and 'user specified password' registrants. That is a good point. I'll update the patch. - I think we need a setting for minimum length of a password. the password textfield should inform users of this requirement. Agreed. In my patch i checked to make sure the password was at least six characters long, but this should be an element that can be tweaked by the admin. It might be best to make this a global password length system variable. - you don't actually relinquish control after saying "/* Let the developer control where the user is redirected. */". i assume this part isn't finished yet. Yep, that's the part i'm still working on. Thanks for the critical eyes. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 14 Jan 2004 04:31:06 +0000 : mathias Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/user_0.module-quick_acount.patch (7.95 KB) The patch has been updated and is ready for final review, and commit. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 14 Jan 2004 22:37:53 +0000 : Dries Not sure. Wouldn't it make more sense (and result in better/less code) to let the user *always* choose his password and to introduce a admin setting to control whether e-mail addresses should be validated by e-mail? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 15 Feb 2004 17:02:38 +0000 : moshe weitzman moving out of patch queue until a cleaner implementation is submitted ... this feature is still quite valuable. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 05 Nov 2004 19:21:49 +0000 : Nick Nassar I agree with Dries that it makes a lot of sense to always let the user choose her password. It's a pain to copy and paste in a randomly generated password, then change it. Hash link based verification is much easier. That's really a seperate issue from an option to disable verification. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:11:42 +0000 : amanuel Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/user4.6.2.patch (4.25 KB) Following Dries's suggestion, I have implemented a "Enable Email Verification" option to user.module. The attached patch does the job. With this patch the system by default will ask for a password. If Email Verification is turned on in the settings, the system will send the password via email. $edit['destination'] is carried so as to allow the user to return where they were (shopping cart etc.) Any comments? Amanuel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:48:08 +0000 : mathias I want users to be able to enter their own passwords upon account creation, but this patch still needs some work. - The email verification checkbox in user admin settings is confusing. I'm assuming that it applies to any of the selected registration options? However when I select that only site admins can create new user accounts, the accounts I create don't get any emails sent for the user to verify. - When a user signs up and enters his/her own password I think they should be logged in automatically rather than taken to a screen asking them to click the login button. - User entered passwords aren't validated. We should check to make sure they're at least six characters and verify the password strength level to some degree (i.e. same characters, all lowercase letters.) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Jul 2005 05:09:30 +0000 : Steven I agree with Dries. Random-generated passwords are hard to use. We already have optional hash-link functionality on signup, so I think we should always use it.

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[drupal-devel] [bug] Users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission cannot delete book pages
by Eric Scouten 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/21559 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/21559 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: book.module Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Anonymous Reported by: clydefrog Updated by: Eric Scouten Status: patch (code needs review) I agree that the current system is a mess. I disagree that there should be one consistent policy enforced by node.module. Sites may have quite legitimate reasons to have different policies for different node types. Eric Scouten Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:32:19 +0000 : clydefrog Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/delete_own_book_pages.patch (626 bytes) AFAICT, only 'administer nodes' permission allows deletion of book pages. This patch allows users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission to delete book pages. The logic doesn't check if the node has updates pending. Should it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:10:22 +0000 : clydefrog It's a patch, duh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:21:27 +0000 : rivena If maintain books is a permission that overlaps other permissions, it should say so. For example, /maintain books (create, edit, and delete all book pages)/. While I agree that someone who has been given maintainer status should be able to delete pages, I wonder if 'delete own pages' should be made into a seperate permission. I could see a situation where I would not want someone to be able to delete their own pages. Do these permissions affect things that are not book pages but have been put into books? Anisa. It's /Golden Week/! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:43:17 +0000 : clydefrog I think it's clear that "maintain books" implies the ability to edit and delete book pages. No other node module provides a "delete own " permission, so it would be inconsistent for book.module to provide it. Can you provide some examples to justify the inconsistency? These permissions do not affect nodes which aren't book pages but are in a book. Those nodes are controlled by their respective type-specific permissions, but only users with "maintain books" permission can add or remove those nodes from books. I believe this is the correct behavior. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:47 +0000 : rivena Hmm... But, you just said that until this patch, it *didn't* include the delete pages permission. Right? So, now you are changing it's behavior, but leaving the wording the same. How will people know? Or does it not matter, because you presume they didn't really know it didn't include delete in the first place? I don't know that I can defend my idea of having a seperate delete own pages permission against a standard of consistency. If all the other edit own permissions include the delete pages permission, then I have no quibbles. :) Except it would be more userfriendly if I knew what the permissions meant before I granted them to someone, without having to look at the code. But I do realize that is completely out of the scope of the patch. :) Where do all these little changes *go*, anyway? The changelog just says things like... refractored the search module. Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:04:14 +0000 : clydefrog I believe that "maintain books" permission implies the ability to delete book pages, so this patch fixes that bug. Other node modules include deletion in the "edit own" permission. For example, page.module: <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own pages') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> I agree that it would be better if permissions were clearer about what they implied. There was a discussion started by killes [1] a while ago: "One problem with Drupal is the way it handles user permissions. The permissions are attached to the user object but nobody really knows what they do. To find out what a particular permission allows you to do, you often need to have a look at the code. " I don't know if it ever lead to any code. I think the changelog is meant to list the changes since the previous version without too much technical detail. If you want to see every last change, take a look at the cvs messages [2]. [1] http://lists.drupal.org/archives/drupal-devel/2005-04/msg00704.html [2] http://drupal.org/project/cvs/3060 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 23 May 2005 17:33:18 +0000 : rivena I've been looking at the book module permissions recently, and did a bit of testing. I wanted to know what was the minimum permissions needed to create a new book. I assumed based on this discussion, and a similar discussion on the drupal support list that this was 'maintain books' and 'administer nodes'. I ran into a problem, then added 'access nodes' to this. So now my user has no other permissions other than 'maintain books', 'administer nodes' and 'access nodes'. You'd think this is more than sufficient to do something simple like create a new book, but in fact, with just these permissions, you do not have access to create a book page. You can edit other pages, and move them into a new book. Once you have create pages permission, you appear to finally have all the permissions needed, edit own pages is not needed. So, since, the point of this patch was that not having delete permission was odd, might I suggest adding create permission to maintain books? ;p Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:37:49 +0000 : Bèr Kessels I would say this is a "by design". Maybe we need to rename the two book permissions into: "create books" and "edit own book pages". None of the other nodes can be deleted by the roles with "edit own Foo" permissions, nor should the books. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:59:30 +0000 : clydefrog Thanks for your review, Ber. story.module [3] allows users with "edit own stories" permission to delete stories. <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own stories') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> Therefore it is not inconsistent for the same behavior to apply to book nodes. If "maintain books" really means "create books", then the name should be changed and existing code in book.module needs to be updated. However, I think "maintain books" should allow more than just that. In my situation, I want to be able to give someone the permissions to create books and to create, edit, and delete all book pages. With my patch, "maintain books" and "create book pages" does that. [3] http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/drupal/modules/story.module?rev=1.167&… ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 19:16:35 +0000 : Bèr Kessels What i see from story, that is specific to story.module too. We should really settle for a consistent behaviour for *all* nodes, one that is "enforced" from node.module. These things should really not be decided per node-type and per-module. Thats a recipe for a mess.

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[drupal-devel] [bug] Users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission cannot delete book pages
by Bèr Kessels 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/21559 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/21559 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: book.module Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Anonymous Reported by: clydefrog Updated by: Bèr Kessels Status: patch (code needs review) What i see from story, that is specific to story.module too. We should really settle for a consistent behaviour for *all* nodes, one that is "enforced" from node.module. These things should really not be decided per node-type and per-module. Thats a recipe for a mess. Bèr Kessels Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:32:19 +0000 : clydefrog Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/delete_own_book_pages.patch (626 bytes) AFAICT, only 'administer nodes' permission allows deletion of book pages. This patch allows users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission to delete book pages. The logic doesn't check if the node has updates pending. Should it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:10:22 +0000 : clydefrog It's a patch, duh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:21:27 +0000 : rivena If maintain books is a permission that overlaps other permissions, it should say so. For example, /maintain books (create, edit, and delete all book pages)/. While I agree that someone who has been given maintainer status should be able to delete pages, I wonder if 'delete own pages' should be made into a seperate permission. I could see a situation where I would not want someone to be able to delete their own pages. Do these permissions affect things that are not book pages but have been put into books? Anisa. It's /Golden Week/! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:43:17 +0000 : clydefrog I think it's clear that "maintain books" implies the ability to edit and delete book pages. No other node module provides a "delete own " permission, so it would be inconsistent for book.module to provide it. Can you provide some examples to justify the inconsistency? These permissions do not affect nodes which aren't book pages but are in a book. Those nodes are controlled by their respective type-specific permissions, but only users with "maintain books" permission can add or remove those nodes from books. I believe this is the correct behavior. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:47 +0000 : rivena Hmm... But, you just said that until this patch, it *didn't* include the delete pages permission. Right? So, now you are changing it's behavior, but leaving the wording the same. How will people know? Or does it not matter, because you presume they didn't really know it didn't include delete in the first place? I don't know that I can defend my idea of having a seperate delete own pages permission against a standard of consistency. If all the other edit own permissions include the delete pages permission, then I have no quibbles. :) Except it would be more userfriendly if I knew what the permissions meant before I granted them to someone, without having to look at the code. But I do realize that is completely out of the scope of the patch. :) Where do all these little changes *go*, anyway? The changelog just says things like... refractored the search module. Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:04:14 +0000 : clydefrog I believe that "maintain books" permission implies the ability to delete book pages, so this patch fixes that bug. Other node modules include deletion in the "edit own" permission. For example, page.module: <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own pages') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> I agree that it would be better if permissions were clearer about what they implied. There was a discussion started by killes [1] a while ago: "One problem with Drupal is the way it handles user permissions. The permissions are attached to the user object but nobody really knows what they do. To find out what a particular permission allows you to do, you often need to have a look at the code. " I don't know if it ever lead to any code. I think the changelog is meant to list the changes since the previous version without too much technical detail. If you want to see every last change, take a look at the cvs messages [2]. [1] http://lists.drupal.org/archives/drupal-devel/2005-04/msg00704.html [2] http://drupal.org/project/cvs/3060 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 23 May 2005 17:33:18 +0000 : rivena I've been looking at the book module permissions recently, and did a bit of testing. I wanted to know what was the minimum permissions needed to create a new book. I assumed based on this discussion, and a similar discussion on the drupal support list that this was 'maintain books' and 'administer nodes'. I ran into a problem, then added 'access nodes' to this. So now my user has no other permissions other than 'maintain books', 'administer nodes' and 'access nodes'. You'd think this is more than sufficient to do something simple like create a new book, but in fact, with just these permissions, you do not have access to create a book page. You can edit other pages, and move them into a new book. Once you have create pages permission, you appear to finally have all the permissions needed, edit own pages is not needed. So, since, the point of this patch was that not having delete permission was odd, might I suggest adding create permission to maintain books? ;p Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:37:49 +0000 : Bèr Kessels I would say this is a "by design". Maybe we need to rename the two book permissions into: "create books" and "edit own book pages". None of the other nodes can be deleted by the roles with "edit own Foo" permissions, nor should the books. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:59:30 +0000 : clydefrog Thanks for your review, Ber. story.module [3] allows users with "edit own stories" permission to delete stories. <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own stories') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> Therefore it is not inconsistent for the same behavior to apply to book nodes. If "maintain books" really means "create books", then the name should be changed and existing code in book.module needs to be updated. However, I think "maintain books" should allow more than just that. In my situation, I want to be able to give someone the permissions to create books and to create, edit, and delete all book pages. With my patch, "maintain books" and "create book pages" does that. [3] http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/drupal/modules/story.module?rev=1.167&…

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[drupal-devel] [bug] XMLRPC array vs. struct type-checking
by jvandyk 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28464 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28464 Project: Drupal Version: 4.6.2 Component: base system Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Anonymous Reported by: jvandyk Updated by: jvandyk Status: patch (ready to be committed) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/tripleequals.diff (712 bytes) In the new xmlrpc libraries, when encoding values a check is made as to whether the current value is an array or a struct. The test uses the == operator but should use the === operator to allow structs with numeric keys that are strings to be distinguished from arrays, which have PHP-autogenerated numeric indices. jvandyk

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[drupal-devel] [bug] Users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission cannot delete book pages
by clydefrog 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/21559 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/21559 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: book.module Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Anonymous Reported by: clydefrog Updated by: clydefrog Status: patch (code needs review) Thanks for your review, Ber. story.module [1] allows users with "edit own stories" permission to delete stories. <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own stories') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> Therefore it is not inconsistent for the same behavior to apply to book nodes. If "maintain books" really means "create books", then the name should be changed and existing code in book.module needs to be updated. However, I think "maintain books" should allow more than just that. In my situation, I want to be able to give someone the permissions to create books and to create, edit, and delete all book pages. With my patch, "maintain books" and "create book pages" does that. [1] http://cvs.drupal.org/viewcvs/drupal/drupal/modules/story.module?rev=1.167&… clydefrog Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 04:32:19 +0000 : clydefrog Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/delete_own_book_pages.patch (626 bytes) AFAICT, only 'administer nodes' permission allows deletion of book pages. This patch allows users with 'maintain books' or 'edit own book pages' permission to delete book pages. The logic doesn't check if the node has updates pending. Should it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:10:22 +0000 : clydefrog It's a patch, duh. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Apr 2005 14:21:27 +0000 : rivena If maintain books is a permission that overlaps other permissions, it should say so. For example, /maintain books (create, edit, and delete all book pages)/. While I agree that someone who has been given maintainer status should be able to delete pages, I wonder if 'delete own pages' should be made into a seperate permission. I could see a situation where I would not want someone to be able to delete their own pages. Do these permissions affect things that are not book pages but have been put into books? Anisa. It's /Golden Week/! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:43:17 +0000 : clydefrog I think it's clear that "maintain books" implies the ability to edit and delete book pages. No other node module provides a "delete own " permission, so it would be inconsistent for book.module to provide it. Can you provide some examples to justify the inconsistency? These permissions do not affect nodes which aren't book pages but are in a book. Those nodes are controlled by their respective type-specific permissions, but only users with "maintain books" permission can add or remove those nodes from books. I believe this is the correct behavior. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 11:03:47 +0000 : rivena Hmm... But, you just said that until this patch, it *didn't* include the delete pages permission. Right? So, now you are changing it's behavior, but leaving the wording the same. How will people know? Or does it not matter, because you presume they didn't really know it didn't include delete in the first place? I don't know that I can defend my idea of having a seperate delete own pages permission against a standard of consistency. If all the other edit own permissions include the delete pages permission, then I have no quibbles. :) Except it would be more userfriendly if I knew what the permissions meant before I granted them to someone, without having to look at the code. But I do realize that is completely out of the scope of the patch. :) Where do all these little changes *go*, anyway? The changelog just says things like... refractored the search module. Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sat, 30 Apr 2005 16:04:14 +0000 : clydefrog I believe that "maintain books" permission implies the ability to delete book pages, so this patch fixes that bug. Other node modules include deletion in the "edit own" permission. For example, page.module: <?php if ($op == 'update' || $op == 'delete') { if (user_access('edit own pages') && ($user->uid == $node->uid)) { return TRUE; } } ?> I agree that it would be better if permissions were clearer about what they implied. There was a discussion started by killes [2] a while ago: "One problem with Drupal is the way it handles user permissions. The permissions are attached to the user object but nobody really knows what they do. To find out what a particular permission allows you to do, you often need to have a look at the code. " I don't know if it ever lead to any code. I think the changelog is meant to list the changes since the previous version without too much technical detail. If you want to see every last change, take a look at the cvs messages [3]. [2] http://lists.drupal.org/archives/drupal-devel/2005-04/msg00704.html [3] http://drupal.org/project/cvs/3060 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 23 May 2005 17:33:18 +0000 : rivena I've been looking at the book module permissions recently, and did a bit of testing. I wanted to know what was the minimum permissions needed to create a new book. I assumed based on this discussion, and a similar discussion on the drupal support list that this was 'maintain books' and 'administer nodes'. I ran into a problem, then added 'access nodes' to this. So now my user has no other permissions other than 'maintain books', 'administer nodes' and 'access nodes'. You'd think this is more than sufficient to do something simple like create a new book, but in fact, with just these permissions, you do not have access to create a book page. You can edit other pages, and move them into a new book. Once you have create pages permission, you appear to finally have all the permissions needed, edit own pages is not needed. So, since, the point of this patch was that not having delete permission was odd, might I suggest adding create permission to maintain books? ;p Anisa. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 10:37:49 +0000 : Bèr Kessels I would say this is a "by design". Maybe we need to rename the two book permissions into: "create books" and "edit own book pages". None of the other nodes can be deleted by the roles with "edit own Foo" permissions, nor should the books.

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[drupal-devel] [bug] comment preview "Required" is easily bypassed
by Jose A Reyero 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/28420 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/28420 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: comment.module Category: bug reports Priority: normal Assigned to: Anonymous Reported by: Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org Updated by: Jose A Reyero Status: patch (code needs review) I like this idea, and the patch looks good Still, I think it misses something, like some timestamp related hash, because once you get the hash code you can post multiple comments with that. Another problem I can think of is, what happens when a cron run happens between the preview and the post?? I'm afraid comments would get lost For this second problem, I think a key generated only once after module activation could do. About the first one....mmm... I'll sit down for a while and think..... Jose A Reyero Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 01:55:34 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org Setting "Preview comment" to "Required" does not strictly require that the comment be previewed first. This is being abused by spammers to quickly and efficiently post spam comments. I discovered this after I added a new feature to my new spam module [1] to auto-blacklist spammer IP addresses, allowing me to block comment spammers when they preview a comment and thus preventing them from ever inserting their spam into my database. I configured my comment module to "require" comment previews, and yet found that the comments were slipping past my filter. I finally realized what the spammer is doing is setting $_POST['op'] to 'Post comment', effectively bypassing the preview phase. I'm currently looking for a clean solution to this. At the moment the only idea I have is to generate a token at the preview phase, and validate the token at the post phase. Unfortunately the token would have to be stored in the databse between the preview and the post, which adds overhead. Alternatively, I've considered using a time-based hash which would constantly update depending on the time of day. This could easily be validated without storing anything in the database. If too long has gone between the preview and the post, an additional preview step would be required... The down side here is that the time-based hash would be publically available, and thus the spammer could easily duplicate it in their script. A private key could solve for that, but increases the complexity as it adds a configuration step. I have the feeling I'm missing a simpler, cleaner solution. Suggestions? [1] http://kerneltrap.org/jeremy/drupal/spam/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 02:26:21 +0000 : moshe weitzman even if you get this fixed, won't these bots just add a preview step? this 'preview required' feature is designed to maintain high quality submissions by forcing users to proof read. it isn;t designed for security. i think you want to hook into comment_validate(). just add a hook here - there is already a hook_comment() waiting for you to add an operation. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 08:49:30 +0000 : Eaton I posted a patch a few days ago (http://drupal.org/node/28255) that adds validation and form construction hooks for comments. It's similar to the one that the captcha module uses, though it adds comment form_pre and form_post hooks instead of a single comment form hook. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 13:30:34 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/comment.module_11.patch (2.5 KB) > even if you get this fixed, won't these bots just add a preview step? Eventually, yes, but it drastically changes their ability to fling spam at a site. As is, they simply have a script that shoots data out at high speed without having to wait for messages to return from the server. It is the server that is doing all the work, thus making it simple for a spammer to DoS a site. If "preview required" really meant "preview required", they would be forced to first automate clicking "preview", and then wait for a response before clicking "submit". This requires more resources on their side, and allows us to add delays after clicking "preview" (if we detect that they are a spammer) further using their resources. > this 'preview required' feature is designed to maintain high quality > submissions by forcing users to proof read. it isn;t designed for security. Regardless of the intention, I was misled to believe that configuring my site to require previews would require that all comments were first previewed. As a site administrator, I would prefer to know that "required" really means "required". > i think you want to hook into comment_validate(). just add a hook here - > there is already a hook_comment() waiting for you to add an operation. Yes and no. Ultimately yes that will work and will allow my spam module to prevent the spam from ever being posted. But it still leaves the greatest burden on the web server, instead of on the spammer. The spammer can still use a very simple script that only pushes data, and thus can generate spam at an unbelievable rapid rate. Here is an example patch to enforce "preview required". It's one idea, I'm sure there are better ones. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 14:01:38 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/comment.module_12.patch (1.4 KB) Here's a second version of the patch that doesn't require any manual configuration.

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[drupal-devel] [feature] Parse atom feeds
by Prometheus6 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/13941 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/13941 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: aggregator.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Prometheus6 Reported by: Capnj Updated by: Prometheus6 Status: patch (code needs review) Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_CVS_0.txt (3.69 KB) Let's try that with the patch this time... Prometheus6 Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:26:00 +0000 : Capnj I've seen mention elsewhere on drupal.org but don't see a feature request, so here goes. The news aggregator is a great piece of Drupal as far as I'm concerned and I'd sure like to see it read all the sources out there, have the 'blog this' function, and also have a tool for browsers to generate a blog entry from a web page (like MT had). Is that a big enough request? LOL Thanks for all that everyone does here. Great stuff! gil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:31 +0000 : drumm RSS 2.0 feeds should work in 4.5.0 and earlier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:04:32 +0000 : georgehotelling I've hacked Magpie [1] support into the Drupal aggregator, so it can support Atom. If you have a Drupal site and want the code, you can get it from http://george.hotelling.net/projects/magpie-aggregator-4.5.2.tgz [2] I'm not sure if I'm supposed to create a patch or what, but I needed this for ArborBlogs.com [3] and figured some other people would benefit from it. [1] http://magpierss.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://george.hotelling.net/projects/magpie-aggregator-4.5.2.tgz [3] http://www.arborblogs.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:04:42 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD.txt (5.46 KB) Very nice. I hacked aggregator.module for 4.6 using your module as a guide...well, frankly by ripping out great chunks of code for my use. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:21:11 +0000 : Boris Mann Can someone roll a patch for this? Would be a good addition for 4.7 now that Atom is at 1.0. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:49:42 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/magpie_aggregator.zip (7.87 KB) A patch would require the Magpie include files and wholly restructures the way the feeds are parsed...the Magpie code would handle all the feeds, not just Atom. That said, the attached zip file has the necessary includes and a patch to CVS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:36:59 +0000 : Steven Magpie RSS duplicates a lot of functionality that is already in Drupal. We decided a long time ago that we would not use it. Porting Atom parsing into the current aggregator can't be that hard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:38:53 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD_0.txt (1.93 KB) Since I'm messing around with the aggregator module anyway... I developed this around Atom 0.3 feeds this weekend, but I don't see anything in Atom 1.0 that should break it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:00:50 +0000 : Eaton +1 on that patch. Running it now on my test site and everything looks great. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:24:54 +0000 : Bèr Kessels a small issue, whe do not use if ($data) $items[$item][$tag] .= $data; please just use if ($data) { $items[$item][$tag] .= $data; } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 02:18:54 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD_1.txt (1.99 KB) Not a problem. Here's the corrections. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:14:14 +0000 : Dries If this is all it takes to parse Atom feeds (to some extend), I'm all for it. Code looks OK. Set to 'ready to be committed' after some testing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:59:20 +0000 : kika anybody up for a testing suite tests? http://intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/FormatTests ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:07:37 +0000 : Prometheus6 That would be for the Atom module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:36:04 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_CVS.txt (2.35 KB) Because the aggregator would always gather enough information todownload an Atom feed, the previous patch focused on parsing items/entries correctly. This patch adds more complete parsing of the feed's channel data (site link, subtitle/description, logo). Now all the feed and item fields will be properly updated. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 08 Aug 2005 16:00:22 +0000 : Prometheus6 The content of the Atom feed's id and info tags were being displayed as part of the feed's description on the aggregator pages. With this patch those tags are recognized and discarded. The "blog it" link is also added to the aggregator page items in addition to the block.

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[drupal-devel] [feature] Parse atom feeds
by Prometheus6 08 Aug '05

08 Aug '05

Issue status update for http://drupal.org/node/13941 Post a follow up: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/13941 Project: Drupal Version: cvs Component: aggregator.module Category: feature requests Priority: normal Assigned to: Prometheus6 Reported by: Capnj Updated by: Prometheus6 Status: patch (code needs review) The content of the Atom feed's id and info tags were being displayed as part of the feed's description on the aggregator pages. With this patch those tags are recognized and discarded. The "blog it" link is also added to the aggregator page items in addition to the block. Prometheus6 Previous comments: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sun, 05 Dec 2004 23:26:00 +0000 : Capnj I've seen mention elsewhere on drupal.org but don't see a feature request, so here goes. The news aggregator is a great piece of Drupal as far as I'm concerned and I'd sure like to see it read all the sources out there, have the 'blog this' function, and also have a tool for browsers to generate a blog entry from a web page (like MT had). Is that a big enough request? LOL Thanks for all that everyone does here. Great stuff! gil ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 07 Dec 2004 17:38:31 +0000 : drumm RSS 2.0 feeds should work in 4.5.0 and earlier. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 14 Feb 2005 16:04:32 +0000 : georgehotelling I've hacked Magpie [1] support into the Drupal aggregator, so it can support Atom. If you have a Drupal site and want the code, you can get it from http://george.hotelling.net/projects/magpie-aggregator-4.5.2.tgz [2] I'm not sure if I'm supposed to create a patch or what, but I needed this for ArborBlogs.com [3] and figured some other people would benefit from it. [1] http://magpierss.sourceforge.net/ [2] http://george.hotelling.net/projects/magpie-aggregator-4.5.2.tgz [3] http://www.arborblogs.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 15 Mar 2005 04:04:42 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD.txt (5.46 KB) Very nice. I hacked aggregator.module for 4.6 using your module as a guide...well, frankly by ripping out great chunks of code for my use. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Thu, 28 Jul 2005 22:21:11 +0000 : Boris Mann Can someone roll a patch for this? Would be a good addition for 4.7 now that Atom is at 1.0. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Jul 2005 01:49:42 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/magpie_aggregator.zip (7.87 KB) A patch would require the Magpie include files and wholly restructures the way the feeds are parsed...the Magpie code would handle all the feeds, not just Atom. That said, the attached zip file has the necessary includes and a patch to CVS. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Fri, 29 Jul 2005 03:36:59 +0000 : Steven Magpie RSS duplicates a lot of functionality that is already in Drupal. We decided a long time ago that we would not use it. Porting Atom parsing into the current aggregator can't be that hard. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mon, 01 Aug 2005 16:38:53 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD_0.txt (1.93 KB) Since I'm messing around with the aggregator module anyway... I developed this around Atom 0.3 feeds this weekend, but I don't see anything in Atom 1.0 that should break it. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 02 Aug 2005 15:00:50 +0000 : Eaton +1 on that patch. Running it now on my test site and everything looks great. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Tue, 02 Aug 2005 16:24:54 +0000 : Bèr Kessels a small issue, whe do not use if ($data) $items[$item][$tag] .= $data; please just use if ($data) { $items[$item][$tag] .= $data; } ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 02:18:54 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_HEAD_1.txt (1.99 KB) Not a problem. Here's the corrections. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:14:14 +0000 : Dries If this is all it takes to parse Atom feeds (to some extend), I'm all for it. Code looks OK. Set to 'ready to be committed' after some testing. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 18:59:20 +0000 : kika anybody up for a testing suite tests? http://intertwingly.net/wiki/pie/FormatTests ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 20:07:37 +0000 : Prometheus6 That would be for the Atom module. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:36:04 +0000 : Prometheus6 Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/AGGREGATOR_ATOM_CVS.txt (2.35 KB) Because the aggregator would always gather enough information todownload an Atom feed, the previous patch focused on parsing items/entries correctly. This patch adds more complete parsing of the feed's channel data (site link, subtitle/description, logo). Now all the feed and item fields will be properly updated.

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