November 2005 - Development - lists.drupal.org

Module tagged DRUPAL-4-6 doesn't show up on list of '4.6.x ' modules
by Colin Brumelle 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Hi, I've spoken briefly to Dries about this, but I know he's a busy man and there may be a simple solution to this. I have (I think) correctly tagged my audio module with DRUPAL-4-6. It used to show up on the list of 4-6 modules on drupal.org, but a few weeks ago, it disappeared, and now only is listed under 'cvs'. Am I doing something wrong with my CVS tags? Is something strange with project module? Hmmm... -- ------------------- Colin Brumelle colin(a)bryght.com http://bryght.com http://mixedcontent.com Cell: 604.351.0547 Office: 604.682.2889 skype/jabber/aim: cbrumelle

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Re: [development] One core, many distributions
by Thomas G. Willis 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Just a bit of insight from another drupal user. First post too. When I first stumbled on drupal everything I read/was told led me to believe it was a kick ass CMS. Now that I've been working with it for a few months I tend to think of it as more of a development platform. Or I guess the best comparison I can give is that drupal is to websites as debian is to linux. Lots of high quality infrastructure, flxibility and extendibility, not much focus on any particular area outside of the core idea. And like debian, it has it's benefits and drawbacks. One benefit is it can be all things to all people, and it's biggest drawback is that it's generic and requires work on the users part to get the solution they actually want. And in the debian world, more specialized distributions have cropped up to meet the needs of a large portion of users (ubuntu). The existence of ubuntu doesn't necessarily effect what the debian team chooses to make a priority. Though it could, but there's no guarantees. If drupal doesn't meet your specific needs you have choices. That's good news!!!!! I'm glad that opensource software is getting more and more popular with normal human beings. At the same time though I'm looking forward to a time when normal human beings finally understand that they are participating in a community, not depending on companies providing free software. -- Thomas G. Willis ----------------------------------------------- http://i-see-sound.com http://tomwillis.sonicdiscord.com

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Re: Usability Testing
by Ken Rickard 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Moshe- I would agree that custom site usability testing is not something that needs to be address by core developers. Our testing methods might be useful for core admin and setup development, so I can help write some tests for those if people need. More to my skill set, I would like, at some point (given personal time constraints) to be able to hook up with the Best Practices folks to write up some of our findings. Case in point: In our 4.5 environment, there is so little difference in user behavior between forums and blogs that the two need not both be run. In our next install, we're simply removing forums. If this were a universal truth -- and I'm not suggesting it is -- then I'd say, hey, devels, drop forum from core. Those who are insterested in going down the usability path should, I think, contact me off-list agentrickard at gmail dot com And we'll see what good I can share with the documentation / help folks. I'm particularly interested in the "who is your audience" question. (For some starting thoughts on where I'm coming from, interested parties can see http://ken.therickards.com/2005/08/31/10/) / Close thread -- Ken Rickard drupal: agentken gmail: agentrickard

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bunch of minor blog module thingies
by Bèr Kessels 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Hello, While rewriting my blog-as-container patch, I came across the following minor issues. They are certainly worth looking at, if the blog as container patch does not make it in: Blog help refers to the old location of content-settings blog_feed_last uses INNER JOINS with revisions. I thought rewrite_sql took care of that blog_page_last defines global $user yet it is never used function blog_validate calls node_validate_title is that not better handled with formapi? My patch will follow, once I got enough confidence it works as expected and after I did some usability reviews. Ber Ps: for sake of completeness: the blog as container patch will remove the blog as node type and add a checkbox to any node allowing the owner of that node to put that in his/her blog.

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Fwd: CivicSpace timeout issue
by Liza Sabater 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

I will be posting this as an issue. This is incomprehensible to me that nobody seems to have a straight answer to this log out problem. C'est la vie. / liza Begin forwarded message: > From: napier <napier(a)potatoland.org> > Date: November 23 2005 12:40:46 EST > To: Liza Sabater <blogdiva(a)culturekitchen.com> > Subject: CivicSpace timeout issue > > This are the threads I looked at on drupal.org: > http://drupal.org/node/2974 > http://drupal.org/node/20002 > http://drupal.org/node/17303 > > I made this change in the sites/default/settings.php: > > ini_set('session.cookie_lifetime', 72000); > > I think we need a developer to tell us what's going on with this. > Maybe there are PHP or Apache settings we need to adjust as well. > > mark > >

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Usability testing
by Ken Rickard 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Since I haven't been giving back through contrib, here's one: We did a usability test (filming users while they performed specificly assigned tasks) of BlufftonToday.com. The biggest problem our users had, as it turns out, was that there were often three or more ways to solve the same problem (do I post my meeting annoucenment in forums? as an event? in my blog? post it to the non-Drupal classifieds?) Now Drupal only runs 70% of the site, so not all the results are Drupal related. if the devel group is interested, I'll see if I can get some corporate permission to share the results (if not the actual video) for those who are interested. -- Ken Rickard drupal: agentken gmail: agentrickard

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where to download more and more drupal themes
by prolibertine 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

i want to know where to download more drupal themes i see http://drupal.org/project/Themes/4.5 but it too less i want to found more for my website thanks

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Re: One core, many distributions
by Ken Rickard 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Sorry 'bout that last one. :-( Stupid Gmail. Anyway, we came to Drupal to run BlufftonToday precisely because core is compact and stable. The module system is a big plus, but managing contributions is a big issue. For our current project, I've been selecting and testing modlues against our core environment, noting the conflicts (not to pick on one, but, for example, events.module and sections.module don't play together). I am acting as gatekeeper for all module installs for the project. If I sanction it, we install it. An officially maintained list of 'approved' Drupal modules would be a huge bonus for the non-developer community. At the same time, I think that 'core' should be as lightweight as possible, even if my list of approved modules is up around 40 or so. I sort of like the auto-update from homebase (along the Apple or Mozilla models) but at the same time think that people who get into Drupal should realize that the platform takes some cultivating. You have to pay attention to module releases, security patches, etc. That's one reason why I like having 'throttle' in core. I don't use it, but it reminds me of an important aspect of site maintenance. Don't take this as a vote for or against any core modules, (though +1 for configurable URLs IMO). I'd also like to second the idea of a community gardener for Drupal.org, who maintains the list of contributions in a meaningful way (e.g. what modules have been tested in what environments; what the newest updates are). Sounds kinda fun to me. I'd be for Drupal "packages" of modules that set up common types of Drupal sites (art, education, projects, news), even if those packages are just lists of modules maintained by a trusted source.

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Re: One core, many distributions
by Ken Rickard 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

I've been deep in Drupal planning and development (using 4.6.3) for a prototype site that extends the experiments that my company (www.morris.com) started on BlufftonToday.com. I just took me a good hour to catch up on the devel list, and here are some thoughts that I hope are helpful. And remember, I know PHP and MySQL, but haven't used my CVS account 'cause i need a few hours to spare to learn how cvs works (so there's my devel background in the open). We're likely to be dedicating more resources to the platform if our tests go well for a coupe of reasons:

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please review patch for sorting & categorizing modules
by Nedjo Rogers 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

As part of CivicSpace Labs contributions to drupal.org, I've been working on introducing into the project module the ability to browse projects by multiple criteria (date, category, etc.). I've posted a patch at http://drupal.org/node/33803, including a link to a demo site (with only a couple of sample projects). Reviews, please! Thanks, Nedjo

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