March 2008 - Development - lists.drupal.org

Bulk Import and Action Help
by Ben Wheeler 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

Hi all, I'm using Actions 5.x-2.0 and Image 5.x-2.x-dev and I wrote an configurable action that automatically adds nodes to a nodequeue on node insert (in this case, images). It works fine when adding one image, but when I use image_import it only runs for the first image. Image import uses image_create_node_from() which in turn uses node_submit() and node_save() just like node module, so I'm having trouble understanding why it's only running once. Can anyone steer me in the right direction to start debugging this? Since it uses several different modules, I'm not sure where to begin. Code for my "autoqueue" action can be found here: http://drupal.org/files/issues/autoqueue.tar_.gz Thanks for your help! -Ben

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Drupal as an API: where the value is ...
by Khalid Baheyeldin 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

[New title, since it is a new topic. Was "Privatemsg needs a better maintainer".] On Wed, Mar 26, 2008 at 8:18 PM, Larry Garfield <larry(a)garfieldtech.com> wrote: > I would phrase it differently; core is trending toward a more > engine-centric > nature, with implementations built on top of it in contrib. Since the > engines are the harder code and usually contain the trickier bugs, that > actually works out. The really complex/ugly stuff goes through the core > gauntlet, while contrib can, hopefully, get smaller and simpler as it's > just > ways to piece together or tweak the engines. > > At least that's what I hope is happening / will happen. :-) > > On Wednesday 26 March 2008, FGM wrote: > > Note that coupling this observation with the trend towards a leaner, > more > > feature-limited core, makes the value proposition of drupal more > > problematic: if core unbundles features to contrib in order to obtain a > > better and more performing core, contrib cannot but remain of lower > > quality, and the overall value to potential users becomes lower between > a > > small and excellent core, and a haphazard mix of contrib modules, only > some > > of which are of quality comparable with core. > I am in the camp that core should be more about APIs, than ready to use stuff. How these APIs are used should be left for contrib. Contrib has been an innovation test bed for Drupal. Many of the "applications" and even interesting frameworks have been in contrib. Think of ecommerce/ubercart and CiviCRM: those are what people use and want. Think about Views and CCK, and if they were in core: would they develop so quickly with core being only committed to by a few people? Things that have proven themselves in contrib become candidates for core, and this happened already for OpenID and Triggers. They were easier and faster to prototype, test, mature and then they go into core. Look at how many Feed/Aggregator we have now? Hopefully soon they will consolidate into one good thing that makes it to core. Core should not be bloated with "applications" where there are more than one way of doing things, and people would never agree on the right way. It should provide some basic modules, yes, but not more functionality in core that can be covered by contrib in more than one way. So, the value of Drupal core is in providing powerful, flexible and clean APIs, letting contrib run wild with them, then selectively taking pieces back in core to become enablers for more innovation in the future, whether they are APIs or applets or whatever. This strategy has worked well for us, and there is no reason to change it for the time being, unless the landscape changes and it requires changes. For me, Drupal is a web application framework, and that is where its power is. -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.

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Call for action: Drupalize Google's SoC Mentors App
by Angela Byron 31 Mar '08

31 Mar '08

(Larry, I cc'ed you because dmitri said you'd done this before and thought it would be a good idea ;)) So as those who've participated in Summer of Code as a mentor before know, the web app that Google provides for ranking/reviewing applications is a little bit ... suboptimal. The view of applications it provides isn't sortable, it's not possible to see when applications are updated, or when new comments have been posted, or... And unfortunately, the person on Google's side of things who's in charge of making incremental improvements is out on medical leave, so the tool we have is about all we're going to get. This is a great opportunity for Drupal to shine, however. With Views, CCK, VotingAPI, and a couple other add-on modules, it'd be possible to whip up a very comparable web app, only with tons more features such as a "new" indicator, the ability to sort applications by last updated time, the ability to tag applications, etc. And if we did this with something like Organic Groups, we could potentially build infrastructure for all 175 open source mentoring organizations to use Drupal, plus take some much-needed weight off the Google admins who are busy with other organizational things. Nice way to build positive relationships in the open source community. Functionality is as follows (rough outline): - "Organization" node type (Organic group); one for each of the orgs listed @ http://code.google.com/soc/2008/ - User import of list of Organization Members (http://code.google.com/soc/2008/drupal/mentors.html) -- I think only admins can see this screen. - "Application" node type with fields for (starred ones are the important ones): - Title* - Student* - Student Email* - Student Major - Student Degree - Student Graduation (year) - Student Home Page - Student Blog - Student IM - Assigned mentor (userreference)* - Abstract* - Description* - Probably a "Tags" vocab on that application node type as well, so people can group them. - A View that displays a list of applications with columns for sorting by things like "last updated time", "title", "student", and "assigned mentor" - The ability to vote on applications and display a score. In the Google app, this will be basically a +1/-1, or a +4 ("I want to mentor") or a -10 ("Ineligible"). Maybe those last two could be flags instead and we could just use Vote Up/Down module? - The web app has both private and public comments. Not sure how we could do this in Drupal off-hand. - A bunch of data import crap to synchronize stuff between Drupal and Google. This is the tricky part: sucking in (and ideally, synchronizing) data between Google's app and the Drupal side. For example, when I post a comment on Drupal, it ought to show up in the Google app and vice-versa. When an application is updated on Google's side, it ought to update it on Drupal's side as well. But at a minimum, we basically would need to "screen scrape" information off Google's end and suck in applications as nodes. I was pointed in IRC at dataminerapi, which looks awesome. However, I won't have time this weekend to monkey with this at all, and ideally we need a solution built by *Monday*. :\ Dmitri's offered to pick up the ball and run with it. a) Anyone have time to help him with that? b) Can anyone give us some advice on how to do the screen-scraping/synching? Have some sample code? etc.? -Angie

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tinymce and img_assist (icon problem)
by Sean Wingert 29 Mar '08

29 Mar '08

I've followed the instructions for tinymce and img_assist, both of which seem to be installed properly. However, when I select the DrupalImage button, the related img_assist icon does not appear among the other icons. I can see the tinymce image icon, and even turn it off, but I cannot make the drupalimage / img_assist icon work. Any thoughts? Sean

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Re: [development] Drupal as an API: where the value is ...
by Khalid Baheyeldin 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

> On Thu, Mar 27, 2008 at 1:21 PM, catch <catch56(a)googlemail.com> wrote: > > > On Views and CCK - I think the APIs need to live in core at least. > > > Eventually, yes. But only when after it lives in contrib for a while (see > my comment on Triggers and OpenID). > -- Khalid M. Baheyeldin 2bits.com, Inc. http://2bits.com Drupal optimization, development, customization and consulting.

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Seeking a co-maintainer for RSVP
by Omar Abdel-Wahab 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

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Regions/page tamplating made easier?
by Stefan Nagtegaal 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

By browsing the web, I found this screencast of a "new CMS", named LightCMS. While it's not as flexible and has less features the way of "building a page layout" is extremely easy to use, and very nice to include in some way into Drupal. So, perhaps some people should look at this: http://www.speaklight.com/video-your-designs Best regards, Stefan

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CVS Documentation Problem?
by Mike Cantelon 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

Hi all, Apologies if this is the wrong place to post this. I'm trying to add a release for a module and it seems the documentation might be out of date: http://drupal.org/node/94151 It says to click "Add News Release" link in the Releases tab, but this link doesn't seem to exist anymore. I've added releases before, so I'm puzzled (although it has been awhile, so maybe I'm missing something). Cheers, Mike -- http://mikecantelon.com * *

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Node title in Preview mode
by Andre Avorio 27 Mar '08

27 Mar '08

Hi there! Does anybody know why when previewing a node its title appears with a link to "/node"? I have seen some users accidentally clicking on this link and loosing their content. Is there a reason why the title appears with a link? Thanks! a

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GSoC?: Mirroring / download improvements with Metalink
by Anthony Bryan 25 Mar '08

25 Mar '08

Hi, There was some discussion [1] last year about Metalink (which list mirrors & checksums for download programs). Since then, support has been added to KGet in KDE and DownThemAll!, a Firefox extension. What we are missing is things to make it easier for projects to make the simple XML .metalinks. I know this is late, but if anyone is interested, we'd be willing to co-mentor if needed, and fund development of this (if not accepted for GSoC). A brief overview of Metalink: "Metalink solves the first problem -- how to find the most speedy way to download a file -- by grouping different download protocols into one protocol. This enables Metalink clients to automatically switch between different mirror servers without explicit user instructions. Not only multiple server information is described but also meta-data (e.g., the location of the server, document tags and license)." Geospatial Semantic Web Some basic features the information in a metalink can be used for: * Listing multiple mirrors for higher availability. * Automatic error recovery and repair of corrupted downloads. * Describe mirror location and priority for automated and efficient use. * More information about a download for users. * Add a file or multiple files to a download queue. -- (( Anthony Bryan ... Metalink [ http://www.metalinker.org ] )) Easier, More Reliable, Self Healing Downloads [1] http://lists.drupal.org/archives/development/2007-03/msg00011.html http://groups.drupal.org/node/3647

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