October 2005 - Development - lists.drupal.org

[drupal-devel] Advanced search patch
by Gerhard Killesreiter 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hi there, Steven Wittens has presented us with a very nice search patch which unfortunately didn't get much attention. One problem was that his patch programm produxed a faulty patch. At least that is what I claim. ;) I've re-rolled the patch: http://drupal.org/node/28159 I've also made my tarred up Drupal directory available. Note: It only includes the includes/ database/ modules/ misc/ directories of today's cvs. Download here: http://tfp1.physik.uni-freiburg.de/~killes/drupal-search.tar.gz for a limited period of time. You will need to update your database by running update.php. Only use on test systems. Cheers, Gerhard

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Re: [drupal-devel] Admin theme
by Kobus Myburgh 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Hi, I have been following this discussion on-and-off, but wasn't the "admin theme" in a previous version of Drupal? I think it was 4.2 or 4.1. I still have a site running on that version that uses the admin theme. At that time there was a huge discussion about NOT having it anymore, so I assume this is making a complete circle now. I believe the main issues about that version's admin theme was because it was: 1. Branded (Druplicon) 2. Not user customizable 3. ... (Can't remember other issues with regards to that) What exactly is the difference here? Why was it removed then and not improved instead? Besides the fact that this one will probably be much better than that version, and (maybe indirectly) handle the concerns that was around the previous times? I don't condemn the decisions made then, but I was wondering if someone (like me) who can remember those old times can chime in and drive this issue forward? Regards, Kobus >>> neil(a)civicspacelabs.org 9/30/2005 9:19:50 PM >>> On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 11:45:28AM -0700, Chris Messina wrote: > Towards a proposal to solve this issue, I mocked up a UI... it presumes: > > 1) that an admin theme is available and bundled by default with drupal > 2) it's not enabled by default > 3) that modules identity the kind of functionality that they provide > or that these proposed "zones" can be customized with a set of > regexps. > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/48039082/ I think options like "what is your admin section" are a bit beyond the beginner user. It could be great for ASPs and contractors, and those people don't necessarily need a UI for such a thing. Lets do the admin theme on any child page of /admin. Want create content to be an administration function? Use the menu module to move it to be a child of /admin. While we are on the subject.. anyone have any constructive criticism for the menu module or maybe some mockups? -Neil

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[drupal-devel] simple and effective comment spam prevention exists and works
by Harry Slaughter 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

after reading this article: http://www.dvorak.org/blog/?p=2904 i'm now using this rule in .htaccess (in rewrite block above the "?q" rewrite rule [which would override this rule]): # Try to prevent comment spam. Attempts to post comments are 403 if they # aren't coming from within site. This will prevent clients that don't send # referrer from posting comments, but I'm not aware of any modern browser that # does not send a referrer RewriteCond %{HTTP_REFERER} "!^http://(www.)?slaughters.com/.*$" [NC] RewriteCond %{THE_REQUEST} "POST /comment/reply/.*" RewriteRule .* - [F] i believe the domain name can be replaced with a var to make it generic. i'm just not sure if there are cases where a valid client does not send a referrer. i switched from MT to Drupal largely because my site had become a spam repository. i know there are lots of modules that try to prevent spam, but i prefer simplicity where possible. of course, it's probably only a matter of time until spammers spoof headers to circumvent this, but i'm sure it can be tweaked to keep up with the bastards. anyway, this is the anti-spam approach i'm going to use for now. thought there might be more general interest in it.

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Re: [drupal-devel] what do you call a rose?
by Kobus Myburgh 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

The point being - not everyone has his site set up by a third party. Some non-techy users set up their sites themselves (and boggs the support list). If I can help these folks, I do, because I was at their level once myself. Unless we plan to have a lot more support questions in the mailing lists as Drupal grows, we better make things as simple as possible. I truly understand your point about having to know stuff, but what do you need to know? Taxonomies or Categories? Folksonomies or Free Tagging? We're going off the topic here. I could even compare a node to a story. Sure, I know node != story, but the thing is, what exactly is a node? A piece of content? Story is also a piece of content. If I say "My car's engine is not working" it could be any part of it - the technical person will figure out exactly which part of it). To go back to the top part of my post, we who help on the support list and forums are the only techies some admins will see, and if we can make it as easy as possible for them (without insulting their intelligence - which is a whole new concept by itself) we will make less work for ourselves. Kobus >>> berdrupal(a)tiscali.be 10/3/2005 11:50:30 AM >>> On Monday 03 October 2005 10:13, Kobus Myburgh wrote: > but what you have to remember is that not all admins are technical gurus > like you Again: if one wants to be a successfull admin, one really needs to know more about Drupal. IMHO you cannot be a successfull car engineer if you dont know about the ideas behind an engine. But you cna be a successfull driver without that knowledge. You can only be a successfull admin if you know about nodes, menus, taxonomies etc. But you can be a user without all that knowledge. This, however, does not mean that we cannot make things better and easier. But it means that we should not estimate our admins as complete morons. A moron cannot be an admin. Even if we make our admin area moron proof. So to turn this around: we can use correct yargon, for admins, for we can expect them to learn about that yargon. Esp if that means that in the end the admin knows better what it is about. (meaning: the yargon was used correct) Bèr

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[drupal-devel] project module issue links
by Bèr Kessels 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Hi there, I understood someone is rewriting the project module, is that correct? In any case, I tried to make a patch to tackle all the bugs in the shortcut links to patches/issues in the queue. None of them take care of the three 'patch' statii."My issues", "pending patches" an numerous more only select patch (code needs work) and ignore the other patch statii. I could not find where this is generated. So is there anyone working on the module who watns to tackle this issue. It really annoys me, to have all these 'non working' links. Bèr

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[drupal-devel] Drupal Search (Was: "Module announcements" forum area)
by Khalid B 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Hi Angie > **What would be really, really, REALLY great is if we could either replace > Drupal.org's search entirely with something else (I've heard good things of > Trip/SQL Search, but have never tried it), or improve the hell out of it because > it is an absolute nightmare to find what you're looking for with it right now.** I think there are improvements in CVS (i.e. 4.7). I forgot how extensive they are, but perhaps someone (was it Adrian or Nedjo?) can fill us in. > The *only* way I can search > the site and get effective results is to go to Google and enter "site:drupal" > and then my keywords. I find myself using that a lot too. It is very handy for think like old issues I comment on and the like. For relevance, nothing beats Google to date, even our own beloved Drupal

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[drupal-devel] quicktags: for developers
by Bèr Kessels 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Hello, I just tagged quicktags for 4.6 after polishing it a bit. However, the reason for this mail is that it has a hook for other modules. example: http://www.chiquechick.com/comment/reply/184#comment In the source you find an example plus some documentation: /* array(id, display, tagStart, tagEnd, access, open, location) * id; // used to name the toolbar button * display; // label on button * tagStart; // open tag * tagEnd; // close tag * access; // access key * open; // set to -1 if tag does not need to be closed * location; // optional: onclick action omit the (). */ function quicktags_quicktags() { $items = array( array('ed_italic','italic','<em>','</em>','i'), array('ed_bold','bold','<strong>','</strong>','b'), array('ed_block','b-quote','<blockquote>','</blockquote>','q'), array('ed_link','link','','','l', -1, 'edInsertLink'), array('ed_break','break','','','t',-1)); return $items; } so, if you want you module foobar to add 'Foo' and 'Bar' around the selected text, you need to do: function foobar_quicktags() { $items = array( array('ed_foo','FooBar','Foo','Bar','f')); return $items; } you can call other JS too: function foobar_quicktags() { $items = array( array('ed_foo','FooBar','','','f', -1, 'fooBar')); return $items; } which will transform into "javascript:fooBar(edCanvas[X], Y)" where edCanvas[X] is the calling textarea and I a unique button number. There is one sidenote: I call the icons by name. We need to find a solution to be able to iether ignore icons if they are not found, or to call them from the other modules directory. Hope to hear from your hooks soon :) Bèr

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[drupal-devel] export on books links
by Bèr Kessels 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Hi, As so many people, I am again a little bit annoyed about various links under a node. In this case my client wants me to remove the export as FOO links. We use books for our static part (as discussed earlier in this ML: books make perfect static sites) of the site. But, all the export as links are clutter in that case. I have made some regexps to get these links out. But that somution is subideal. I see two solutions: rewrite the _link system completely. I have not time for this. Or introduce a permission 'export books'. Please give your comments or ideas on what route to take and what has the most chance to get in. Other options are most welcome too, off course! Bèr

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Re: [drupal-devel] css clear use
by Pat Collins 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

Sorry, forgot the smiley face. :) And forgot to take out that "what" in the last sentence. On 1 Oct 2005 22:56:34 -0400, "Pat Collins" <pat(a)linuxcolumbus.com> wrote : > > On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 17:50:36 -0700, Chris Messina <chris.messina(a)gmail.com> > wrote : > > > I would call it a hornet's nest, but to each their own. ;) > > > > Pat, David, if you download the CivicSpace theme, you can use my > > foundation XHTML and layout.css files to achieve source-ordered 1, 2 > > and 3 column layouts that work across all browsers and allow clears. > > The CSS is soup, but it'll save you the thousands of hours it took me > > to debug this stuff. > > > > Actually, mine is a 4 column layout. Working on making the columns movable > so you can have logos,block,content,block or some combination of that. > > Thousands of hours? I wish I had that time, I think it took me to 15 > minutes to modify bluemarine to get what the initial layout. > > Pat > > >

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Re: [drupal-devel] css clear use
by Pat Collins 02 Oct '05

02 Oct '05

On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 17:50:36 -0700, Chris Messina <chris.messina(a)gmail.com> wrote : > I would call it a hornet's nest, but to each their own. ;) > > Pat, David, if you download the CivicSpace theme, you can use my > foundation XHTML and layout.css files to achieve source-ordered 1, 2 > and 3 column layouts that work across all browsers and allow clears. > The CSS is soup, but it'll save you the thousands of hours it took me > to debug this stuff. > Actually, mine is a 4 column layout. Working on making the columns movable so you can have logos,block,content,block or some combination of that. Thousands of hours? I wish I had that time, I think it took me to 15 minutes to modify bluemarine to get what the initial layout. Pat

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