October 2005 - Development - lists.drupal.org

Re: [drupal-devel] reviews needed
by Kobus Myburgh 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

> How about "Custom URL:" but before the text field for input, the base > URL is presented as a static text? This implies that what is to be input > is the bit after the base URL. I am not sure the current form API allows this, but it sounds good too. Regards, Kobus

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Re: [drupal-devel] what do you call a rose?
by Kobus Myburgh 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

> The problem here is: Who is the user? Is it the admin of a site? Or is it > the user registering on a site. For that latter kind of user I do > agree with you, for admins I do not. You have a point, but what you have to remember is that not all admins are technical gurus like you :-) Sometimes the admin of a site is a newbie, or sometimes it is me. Haha. :-) Regards, Kobus

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Re: [drupal-devel] reviews needed
by Kobus Myburgh 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

> "URL path" is a combination of both worlds, is accurate semantically, > and more importantly, accurate operationally: what the user types in is > exactly what the box is asking for (not a "custom URL", but a "URL > path", which "about" would be considered). I didn't follow the whole conversation all the time, but I believe Morbus is right. I was okay with custom URL, but Morbus' suggestion is better, IMO. Kobus

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Re: [drupal-devel] reviews needed
by Kobus Myburgh 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

If you change path alias to custom url, it is best to make it URL and not url. Kobus >>> morbus(a)disobey.com 10/4/2005 2:18 PM >>> > 2. 'path alias' -> 'custom url' : http://drupal.org/node/30509 You already know my feelings here. Ignoring what URL actually means, it is an acronym and should be capitalized. Or is that "usability" too? -- Morbus Iff ( i've got the creme filling ) Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779 Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/ icq: 2927491 / aim: akaMorbus / yahoo: morbus_iff / jabber.org: morbus

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[drupal-devel] Taxonomy Access Module Takeover
by Pyroman[FO] 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

User keve has asked to take over the taxonomy_access module, since I don't have time to maintain it. Can an admin transfer it to him? Pyroman[FO]

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[drupal-devel] param in middle of url?
by Aaron Stewart 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Hey all.. I want to do something like this: ?q=foo/1/bar where "1" in this case is a user id (or rather, I want it to be a param into my callback). Is there a facility that already exists for doing this? Thanks, -=Aaron

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Re: [drupal-devel] what do you call a rose?
by Charlie Lowe 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

Bèr wrote: "So, the original question was: should 'free tagging' rather be called 'folksonomy' because more people will be attracted to that term, or should we choose the more appropriate, yet less known term 'free tagging'." Or do you choose the term that is most usable? This is different than whether a term is more appropriate or more widely used (widely depends on audience, who is using it). So let's complicate things: "Folksonomy" may indeed be more popular in terms of Google hits because of social software types talking about it on the web. Consider that the majority of people that talk about folksonomy on the web may know what "free tagging" means, too. Also, given that someone may not know what either term means, "free tagging" is more likely to suggest what the use of the module is or at least will more quickly make sense. I also suspect that "free tagging" will catch on as a term because it's not as jargon or technical sounding as "folksonomy." "Free tagging" describes the action of doing something. "Folksonomy" is an abstract concept. Charlie

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[drupal-devel] Various PHP Errors on Drupal.org
by Khalid B 04 Oct '05

04 Oct '05

While looking at http://drupal.org/admin/logs I noticed quite a few PHP errors that happen regularly. I am listing some samples here, so as to try to give them visibility, and those can help eradicating them can do so. Each one of those happens several times, so it is not a one off 1. implode(): Bad arguments. in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/modules/user.module on line 635. This is caused by the theme_user_profile function. Visit here to reproduce it http://drupal.org/user/20575 2. opendir(files/images//temp): failed to open dir: Permission denied in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/includes/file.inc on line 523. This is from an Oregon State U IP address and at regular minutes after the hour. So it is a normal cron run. http://drupal.org/cron.php?key=drop But what is the key=drop? It seems that the double slash is confusing it? 3. fsockopen(): unable to connect to byyyyttgggg.org:80 in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/includes/common.inc on line 335. 4. fsockopen(): php_network_getaddresses: getaddrinfo failed: Name or service not known in /var/www/drupal.org/htdocs/includes/common.inc on line 335. Seems the above ones are from users trying to gain access to Drupal.org via remote authentication. They setup a drupal site at example.com and then they try to login as someone(a)example.com that they have just setup! 5. Lost connection to MySQL server during query query: LOCK TABLES cache WRITE Lost connection to MySQL server during query query: UPDATE sessions Lost connection to MySQL server during query query: UPDATE node_counter SET daycount This happens A LOT for the cache table. It also happens for the session tables, and about once for the node_counter, as well as system tables. This all points to contention in the database, specially for the cache table on a busy site like Drupal.org. Comments? Ideas?

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Re: [drupal-devel] what do you call a rose?
by Kobus Myburgh 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Gerhard, Your point is taken, however, who is going to do the education? You? Me? Other members of the team? Sure, we can make a best effort, but will we reach them all, due to the dynamic nature of Drupal's user base? Regards, Kobus >>> killesreiter(a)physik.uni-freiburg.de 10/3/2005 4:20:43 PM >>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Kobus Myburgh wrote: > > The problem here is: Who is the user? Is it the admin of a site? Or is it > > the user registering on a site. For that latter kind of user I do > > agree with you, for admins I do not. > > You have a point, but what you have to remember is that not all admins are technical gurus like you :-) > > Sometimes the admin of a site is a newbie, or sometimes it is me. Haha. :-) Well, my stance is that I rather educate people (even if it takes a mallet) rather than dumbing down things so that anybody can _think_ they understand them. Cheers, Gerhard

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Re: [drupal-devel] what do you call a rose?
by Kobus Myburgh 03 Oct '05

03 Oct '05

Okay, let me get this straight. What reasons may there be to create an excellent piece of software like Drupal? 1. Personal fame (and maybe a resume) of the developers. 2. Financial gain. 3. A sense of personal victory. 4. The desire to create something special for the world. 5. Investing of time something that you use and have considerable control over its development, as opposed to an out-of-the-box commercial system which is often a pain in the backside. Okay - that's just a few of the most important reasons why you would develop Drupal. Now... Let's go through these items: 1. Sure - everyone knows who Gerhard is. 2. Maybe - I don't know if you charge your clients, or even if you have any. Probably. 3. Yes - but this depends on your nature. Are you a person who challenge the status quo? Yes. Okay. 4. Hmmm... - it will not be special to the world if you would make it difficult for them to use it. 5. Yes - this would probably be one of your main reasons if Drupal was yours. Where am I going with this? Simple: You may not want to focus on item #4, or feel inclined that if the world will not fit in, they must move out, but, in reality, if everyone felt the way you do, where would Drupal be today? Regards, Kobus >>> killesreiter(a)physik.uni-freiburg.de 10/3/2005 6:42 PM >>> On Mon, 3 Oct 2005, Kobus Myburgh wrote: > Your point is taken, however, who is going to do the education? You? Me? > Other members of the team? Sure, we can make a best effort, but will we > reach them all, due to the dynamic nature of Drupal's user base? The people are supposed to educate themselves by means of the docs we got to provide. If they are too lazy to read it is their problem if they stay dumb and cannot use excellent software. Cheers, Gerhard

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