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Issue status update for
http://drupal.org/node/7582
Post a follow up:
http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/7582
Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: node system
Category: bug reports
Priority: normal
Assigned to: killes(a)www.drop.org
Reported by: killes(a)www.drop.org
Updated by: Jose A Reyero
Status: patch
Hi again.
I had a talk with killes -I have to say he enlightned me about this-
and also did some testing. Sorry but I dont have a good set up to
provide benchmarks.
Here are my conclusions -and also some explanation for the varied
results abt performance:
- This is faster for simple node listings
- This is slower for full node/load
....thus the performance increase/decrease for a given page should
depend on the relation between the number of simple node listings
(usually blocks) and the number of nodes displayed in the main page.
I've also experienced some trouble with attachments -not re-created
when creating a new revision- and book relations, same.
I'm not sure I like this new "feature" of creating a new revision every
time you rollback an old one -in Drupal 4.6 this seems not to happen.
Besides these details, I think this patch is good enough -and quite a
powerful approach actually- though I still feel it's bit too complex
when simply dealing with nodes -without revisions-, which is what we do
most of the time, and complexity will be even higher with contrib
modules using still more tables, not to mention flexinode -versioning
info will have to be scattered everywhere in the db.
So this is not a +1 nor -1. On one side I think this is powerful. On
the other side I feel this is too complex and really, it's more than I
need.
I would be happy with a 'revision' table having: nid, vid,
data(serialized), that you can forget about when not using revisions.
Jose A Reyero
Previous comments:
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Wed, 05 May 2004 16:25:27 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Currently all node revisions are stored in a serialized field in
node.table and retrieved for _each_ page view although they are rarely
needed. However, we have agreed that serializing data is bad and that
we should try to keep the memory foot print pf Drupal small.
Therefore I propose to create a separate revisions table which would be
in principle identical to the node table, only that it could have
several old copies of the same node. Extra data added by other modules
could be added in a serialized field unless we find a better solution.
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Wed, 05 May 2004 17:06:35 +0000 : jhriggs
I too think the serialized approach is less than desirable, but here's
an alternative. This would likely take some considerable rework in
core and contrib, but the following is how we handle similar types of
situations in our databases at work. It is more elegant that a
separate table, and avoids the (almost exact) duplication of a table.
Instead of separate tables, keep all revisions of nodes in the node
table as follows:
* add field: active (0/1 or Y/N)
* add field: revision
* every revision of a node is stored in the node table; however, only
one revision can be active at any given time
* nid can no longer be unique -- primary/unique key becomes (nid,
active)
* any time a node is loaded, updated (without revision), etc., the
active version is used.
Thoughts?
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Wed, 05 May 2004 17:57:48 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
I am not opposed to your scheme, but I want to stress the following:
* Duplicating a table's structure is not bad (IMHO) as long as the
content is different.
* having two tables will allow us to have a rather small node table.
This is (maybe) a performance gain.
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Wed, 05 May 2004 18:37:29 +0000 : jhriggs
I don't necessarily think that duplicating a table's structure is _bad_.
It just seems to be wasteful and a pain to maintain. (Every change to
the node table is made twice...easy to do, but also easy to miss
perhaps.)
As for performance, as long as nid and the active indicator are
indexed, there shouldn't be any performance loss. Also, archiving an
old version when making a new revision will be much simpler: just
change the active indicator rather than copying an entire node to
another table (and ensuring everything gets copied...again a potential
maintainance issue).
To be honest, I would just like to see the serialized data go away,
regarless of what approach is taken.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:49:33 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_07-30-2004.p… (10.47 KB)
I'm interested in using Drupal for a large scale wiki-type project. In
order to do this, I need revisions to be in their own table.
Attached is a patch to do just that. Most of the changes are pretty
self explanatory. Spreading out node data across two tables meant that
I had to add database functions to do locking/transactions. Without
this, race conditions in which the database becomes corrupted are
possible.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:54:36 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Oh yeah... The patch is a diff against Drupal CVS
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:00:08 +0000 : Anonymous
Gerhard speaking.
Nick, thanks a lot for your nice patch! It saves me a great deal of
labour. I looked through it and immediately liked it. You not only put
the old revisions into a new table but also the current one. Do you
have an estimate how much more expensive the additional join is?
Besides a few minor coding style issues I found a major one: Just a few
hours before you uploaded your patch JonBob's node access patch hit
core. That means your patch won't apply anymore as all the queries you
change have been changed. Can I bug you to update your patch?
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:11:59 +0000 : Anonymous
Also I think that your upgrade path loses existing revisions.
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:39:12 +0000 : drumm
I think this is the proper way to do things. No columns are duplicated,
there is no serialized data, and only the fields that are logically
revised are stored. Nothing jumped out at me as a way to have my node
modules be able to keep a table of revisions of additional fields. I'm
guessing this could be done within the confines of _insert and _update.
Assuming the upgrade path works and modules can extend it I give it a
+1.
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:40:15 +0000 : Nick Nassar
It figures that just as I finish a big patch, another patch comes along
and breaks it. Oh well, it should be a pretty easy to fix. I'll work on
it.
Fixing the upgrade path to keep revisions should be fairly painless.
I found another issue that needs to be fixed before this patch gets
merged. There format of a node needs to be stored for each revision.
Otherwise, for modules that store a format for the nodes, such as page
and book, if you write one revision in PHP and the next in HTML, the
PHP revision will be displayed as HTML. This is part of a larger issue
of how node modules should store revisions of additional fields. I
think each module that wants to do this should create another table
with (nid, revid) as the primary key. Just as when they want to add
fields to a node they create another table with nid as the primary key.
As far as performance goes, for sites that make heavy use of revisions,
an extra join on primary keys is going to be a lot faster than grabbing
all of the revisions from that database everytime. We would need to run
benchmarks to determine is the overall difference in speed is for an
average site is a gain or a loss. I'm guessing it's very minor either
way.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:55:49 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_08-23-2004.p… (10.92 KB)
Here's an updated patch against CVS that puts revisions in their own
table, provides an upgrade path, and fixes the format related bugs in
the last patch.
Hopefully, this can make it into CVS as soon as the freeze is over.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:10:39 +0000 : moshe weitzman
Interesting patch ... drumm's question is still outstanding. how do
modules store revisions of their fields? Are they expected to manage
this on their own? Thats not how it works today.
As an aside, i am seeing profile_ fields in my node.revisions column.
One could argue that those need not be saved. They pertain to the node
author, not to the node itself.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:14:39 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Having modules be responsible for storing revisions of their own fields
is a side-effect of storing revision data in tables. There's really no
way around it. However, revisions generally don't make sense for node
types that don't have PHP/HTML content, such as polls. I think it's
going to be a pretty rare scenario for a new node type to want another
field to change per-revision, so it's a pretty good trade-off.
Storing fields that shouldn't be part of revisions, such as the
profile_ fields, is a side-effect of storing revisions as serialized
objects. Applying this patch will free up that wasted space. :)
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:20:57 +0000 : Anonymous
There should be a hook that let's the module choose whether it supports
history. This way a module author can prevent the user from doing
something that may break his module or just cause undefined behavior.
If the module doesn't support history then don't let the user/admin
choose to add history to nodes of that type.
Craig
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:23:29 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I agree, there should be an API change to make specifying support for
revisions easier. In the interests of keeping patches small and keeping
to one change per patch, I think the API change should be a separate
issue.
A sort of ad-hoc API to decide whether or not a module supports
revisions by default already exists. Instead of having a hook, modules
set the default value of the "Create new revision" field in the edit
form. The admin can change this option in
admin/node/configure/defaults. This patch doesn't change that.
Revisions are broken for node types that have their own database
structure, like polls, even when storing them as serialized objects.
This patch doesn't change that, either.
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Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:35:06 +0000 : moshe weitzman
I'm guessing that someone is going to have to demonstrate that this
patch performs as well as current drupal before it gets comitted. i
think this patch is a few benchmarks from being comitted.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:04:09 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004.p… (11 KB)
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:05:16 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:05:26 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004.p… (11 KB)
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:05:30 +0000 : elias1884
please overthink the revision system default workflow as well. don't
look at the revision system as an isolated system but as a part of the
whole workflow system!
if you combine revisions with the moderation queue the most logic
default workflow would be like that:
auth user creates node (revision #0)
admin approves the node (status = 1, moderation = 0)
=> node publicly available
auth user finds typo and changes node (revision #1, status = 0,
moderation = 1)
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what happens at that point at the moment is, that the node is not
accessible anymore at all until the new revision is approved by admin.
of course the new revision should not go online until reviewed and
approved, this is absolutely correct, but there is no reason to not
take the old revision offline, since it was already approved and should
therefore be online until the new revision is approved. it is not
practical if a node disappears only because the author corrected a
typo.
-------
admin approves the node (status = 1, moderation = 0)
eventhough I first thought a plain boolean active field would not be
capable of providing that functionality if finally came to the
conclusion, that it can. The only thing to do is to not set that bit,
when a new revision is created, but when it is approved (in case
moderation is activated under default workflow). Every revision should
have its own moderation, status and active field and on approval they
are set like this (status=1, moderation=0, active=Y).
When you wanna rollback to an old revision, you can chose between all
revisions that already have the moderation bit set back to 0 again and
the published to 1. There should be an extra permission for rollback!
another concern that I have about the default workflow is, that users
can't see the content, they have just created, when moderation is
enabled. Eventhough, there is a big fat "submission accepted" presented
after submissions, unexperienced users tend to question the information
those stupid tincans give them, if they can't find their content
afterwards. Many users are really lazy bastards and they don't even
read the status messages. The best feedback about whether his story was
submitted successfully or not of course is, if he can find the story
somewhere on the site, maybe with a status message on top of it,
mentioning, that the content is currently not publicly available since
it has not been approved yet. there should be a my content section
under my account, like somebody is trying to do with the workspace
module I guess.
so my suggestion is to make (status=0, moderation=1) still available
for the creator under a my content section somewhere!
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Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:21:18 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I agree. The current workflow for moderation queues and revisions needs
to change, but this patch isn't the place for it. The patch is already
too big, and it only does the backend stuff.
Instead of adding more to this patch and making it take even longer to
get into core, would you mind creating a new issue for your UI
suggestions, so the those changes can be added as a separate patch?
Thanks,
Nick
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Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:26:02 +0000 : Dries
This patch is _much_ needed so I'd love to see someone revive it. In
order for this patch to be accepted, the following needs to be done:
* Update this patch to CVS HEAD.
* Rename revid to vid.
* Rename node_rev to node_revisions.
* Rename node_rev.changed to node_revisions.timestamp.
* Rename $rnode to $revision.
* Fix the coding style to match Drupal's: proper spacing, single quotes
where possible, proper variable names.
* Benchmark this patch with a large database with enough revisions.
I'd be happy to benchmark this on my local copy of the drupal.org
database.
* The book.log field should probably move to the node_revisions table.
This can be done in a separate patch.
* Investigate whether transactions are well-supported.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:25:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004-r… (11.02 KB)
I've worked a bit on the patch (coding style issues as mentioned by
Dries). One thing I noticed is that the patch uses REPLACE. IIRC this
needs to be chagned to "UPDATE, if fail INSERT" for pgsql
compatibility.
Nick, are you still interested in working on that patch? I'd like to
know how it works on your site and work on getting it into core.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:33:08 +0000 : Dries
Gerhard: your patch does not apply.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:10:12 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Yes, I know, that was the same version as I mailed to you earlier.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:02:06 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions.patch (52.96 KB)
Ok, upüdated the patch to cvs.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:58:36 +0000 : Dries
Some more comments:
* db_begin_transaction() and db_end_transaction() do not belong in
database.inc, but in database.mysql.inc and database.pgsql.inc
respectively.
* The node module calls node_revisionsision_list() which is not
defined. (Fxed that on my local copy.)
* Do db_begin_transaction() and db_end_transaction() deprecate Jeremy's
table locking patch?
* The upgrade path assigns the wrong user ID to each revision.
* The upgrade path assigns the wrong date to each revision (that or a
node's revision page shows the wrong usernames/dates).
* The coding style needs a bit of work, but we can worry about that
later.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:34:44 +0000 : Nick Nassar
If you need any help getting those things fixed, just let me know.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:50:30 +0000 : Nick Nassar
How this relates to Jeremy's node locking patch:
There was lots of discussion, and node locking was decided against
because from an end user point of view you never want a node to be
locked. He's now advocating for a much simpler patch that warns users
if their changes will overwrite someone elses. That patch still has a
race condition, which might be fixed using db_begin_transaction().
http://drupal.org/node/6025
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:26:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_0.patch (55.96 KB)
Here is an updated patch that tries to address Dries concerns.
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Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:32:50 +0000 : Dries
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions-bug.png (76.06 KB)
It didn't fix the aforementioned bugs. See attached screenshot.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:15:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_1.patch (51.77 KB)
Ok, here is a new version. Dries and myself worked hart at it, so please
have a look.
what is still missing
- database upgrades for the core modules with an own table
- contrib modules need an upgrade too.
- do we need nid and vid in both the node and the node_revisions table?
- the amount of sql queries means a good stress testing for large
databases.
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Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:43:49 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_2.patch (49.49 KB)
Here is an updated patch. We discussed to keep the current title in node
module and also in the revisiosn table. This is content duplication but
will save many joins as many queries only need the title of a node.
Discussion is welcome.
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Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:33:32 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_3.patch (29.93 KB)
I've implemented the aforementioned solution. This makes the patch much
smaller. The patch now also removes taxonomy_node_has_term() which
wasn't used anywhere. I'd really apprciate if some people could test
drive the patch. It will be another huge improvement for 4.6.
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:05:54 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_4.patch (30 KB)
Another revision. Steven didn't like my literal $node->vid in queries.
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:10:50 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
- database upgrades for the core modules with an own table
- contrib modules need an upgrade too.
- do we need nid and vid in both the node and the node_revisions table?
- the amount of sql queries means a good stress testing for large
databases.
These issues are still open, btw. Especially the first one needs to be
tackled.
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Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:11:59 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_5.patch (51.13 KB)
Here is a patch that has the database tables updated for forum, book,
and page module.
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Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:55:59 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_6.patch (49.18 KB)
Yet another update to keep it working with head. The patch now also
removes the table definitons for the page table.
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Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:57:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_7.patch (55.69 KB)
Sorry, that was the old version, this is the right one.
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:55:03 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_8.patch (55.71 KB)
Updated once more.
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:52:08 +0000 : Dries
Anyone to help review/test this?
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:22:36 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_9.patch (49.29 KB)
Updated again, the update functions occurred twice. Thanks Bart.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:27:05 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Don't know if the db I am using is corrupted or what. I still do have
some didficulties.
The latest patch is attached.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:27:49 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_10.patch (49.67 KB)
I am probably slowly going mad ...
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:54:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_11.patch (48.95 KB)
The update issue still needs investigating. This patch is updated for
cvs.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:20:51 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_12.patch (49.83 KB)
Ok, here is a new version. I've solved my troubles with book.module.
There are still some issues with forum module. Possibly due to
inconsistent database.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:31:05 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_13.patch (49.83 KB)
Turns out the drupal.org database had indeed some quirks. Please run
this query in your oldest db and tell me the result:
select nid,type from node where type like '%/%';
If you get a non-zero result we might need to add another security
update.
The patch could use still more testing, though.
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:16:54 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_14.patch (49 KB)
Ok, we are getting somewhere. At a first glance the update is working.
There is a problem remaining: the revisions tab will be shown whether
the node has revisions or not. Not sure we can/need to fix this.
People with a drupal.org account can log in at
http://killes.drupaldevs.org/revision/ and poke around. Your
permissions will be the same as on drupal.org. Feel free to vreak
everything but don't forget to file complaints here. (Note: this is
only a pruned version of the drupal.org database with all project nodes
and nodes with nids > 7000 dropped).
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:19:14 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_15.patch (52.39 KB)
There was some error in node_save and also the patches to the
database.inc files got lost...
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:07:27 +0000 : robertDouglass
Submitting book pages doesn't work on your test site. It puts the entire
content of the preview inside the body textarea. I wrote a sentence in
the body and the log, and pressing preview put several lines of HTML
containing both sentences in the body textarea on the preview page,
plus the book page wouldn't submit.
-R
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:50:59 +0000 : Junyor
0 results here. I started using Drupal with version 4.4, though.
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:56:18 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@Junyor: Thanks, that's a good sign. Maybe somebody else has an older db
to try.
@robertDouglass: The first effect you describe is due to drupaldevs
running on PHP 5. I am unsure why the second thing does not work. In
node_save() the node object has a nid although there is none in the
form. Very strange.
I've enabled display of db queries on the testsite.
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Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:17:55 +0000 : dmjossel
No results here on the query:
select nid,type from node where type like '%/%';
On a database that was put in place prior to Drupal 4 and is now
running on 4.5.2.
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Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:44:23 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@dmjossel: thanks.
@all. The strange problem I reported was apparently php 5 related.
After applying Steven's php 5 patch it went away. One error is
remaining: If I create a new forum topic it will be shown as part of
the book on preview. Hmm, that was due to a db that got corrupted
during testing so that is fixed too.
Please poke around at the test site and look if you find more errors.
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 07:16:22 +0000 : Steven
By the way, I just remembered that Drupal.org has some blogs lingering
on in the database even though blog.module is not enabled. Perhaps this
is causing troubles?
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:59 +0000 : Anonymous
I can't see why it would. Drupal.org will need extra updates for images
and project nodes because those have their own tables. GK.
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Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:49:55 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_16.patch (52.49 KB)
Updated to apply to cvs again.
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Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:15:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_17.patch (49.64 KB)
Updated again.
All we need is a patch to upload module and an upgrade path for it.
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Fri, 04 Mar 2005 04:22:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_18.patch (52.31 KB)
Updated once more. Moved log field from book to node_revisions table as
discussed in Antwerp. upload module still missing.
We need to decide under which circumstances the log field should be
displayed. Should that be added to the workflow? Should it depend on
the revisions setting?
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Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:27:03 +0000 : Anonymous
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_20.patch (75.52 KB)
Ok, here it is: Yet another revision of this grrrrreat patch.
Changes from previous versions:
- supports versioning for uploaded files. A problem is that if you
delete a file, it will be gone for all revisions.
- the log field is now in the node_revsions table, but each module has
to decide whether to show it or not.
I've implemented it for the page and the book type odes. Also, the
field can be edited when adding non-book nodes to the book. The log is
displayed on the revisions page and if a node is moderated.
- the revisions are moved to an old_revisions table to a) get the node
table smaller and b) still leave the mavailable for contrib modules
that want to retreive old version data.
The patch has been applied to killes.drupaldevs.org/revision where it
can be tested by anybody (especially people who have "site admin"
rights on drupal.org)
The database is from drupal.org and you should b able to log in with
your pass or simply mail yourself a new one.
Gerhard
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Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:51:56 +0000 : Anonymous
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_21.patch (59.42 KB)
BTW, I marked this a bug because atm the revisions field can grow quite
big. Neil has reported problems from some users who were not able to
load some nodes due to to many large revisions.
Also, som unrelated stuff crept into the patch. New version attached.
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Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:56:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_22.patch (60.29 KB)
Ok, I think I got it.
Changes to last version:
- uploads are no properly versioned.
Missing are still pgsql checks and updates.
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Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:58:41 +0000 : Anonymous
Was able to get http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_21.patch to
work with drupal-cvs.tar.gz (10 March 2005) by:
- includes/database.mysql.inc: Commenting out duplicates for functions
function db_begin_transaction and function db_commit_transaction
- modules: node.module: Removing "'title' => $node->title," from
$node_table_values variable declaration and removing "'title' =>
"'%s'"," from "$node_table_types" variable declaration.
Happy to submit a patch if requested. I'll watch this thread.
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Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:59:45 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
The duplicate function has been removed in rev 22 of this patch.
Why do you think the changes in node_save are needed? Titles are saved
in both tables for performance reasons.
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Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:21 +0000 : jlerner
Hi - I posted comment #62. The changes to node_save appear to be needed
because recent patches (both 21 and 22) remove the field 'title' from
table 'node'. So without the changes to node_save, node.module is
broken and generates errors.
Joshua
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Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:29:42 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_23.patch (61.17 KB)
Thanks, Joshua, for catching this. node:title is there to stay.
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Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:29:23 +0000 : moshe weitzman
since HEAD is open again, perhaps it is a good time to revisit this
patch.
once this is committed, lets address - http://drupal.org/node/11071
"node_validate does not respect group editing"
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Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:43:42 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_24.patch (60.39 KB)
Updated.
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Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:16:32 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_24_0.patch (60.39 KB)
Updated.
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:19:42 +0000 : Dries
I'll commit this patch later this week! If you haven't checked this
patch already, I urge you to test/check it out because it will have
significant impact on existing code and modules!
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:21:33 +0000 : Dries
Also, what do people think about the n.title being duplicated?
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:26:58 +0000 : chx
I won't lose any sleep because of duplicated titles...
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:35:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Let me explain why I have chosen to duplicate the title (and also the
uid): If you look at all the queries in Drupal, you will find that most
of them only need the title and th uid of a node. That is, by
duplicating it, we save expensive joins on the node_revisions table.
Due to this fact, this patch is actually a performance improvement.
A note about updating contrib module:
Strictly speaking they wouldn't need to be updated. They only need to
if their authors decide that their info should be available for
revisioning. The upgrade path for forum.module in my update.inc patch
(+ the forum patch)
should show you what needs to be done.
I will write a note for the update page once the patch hits core.
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Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:21:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_25.patch (60.38 KB)
Updated to cvs.
Dries: Based on some remarks in #drupal this is the last update I am
going to do. Apply it or won't fix it.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:42:39 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_25.patch.patch (528 bytes)
That's a big patch. I've only started looking through it. I noticed
one little typo, affecting updates. A patch to your last patch is
attached.
I'm running with the revision patch on my dev server now happily. I
like the concept.
What happens if you click 'stop' on your browser in the middle of a
MySQL "transaction"? I assume that kills the connection to MySQL, and
the lock is freed? But this then leaves changes only partially
applied?
What exactly does locking/unlocking the tables buy us in MySQL? I
don't see anywhere that we detect if an apply fails part way through,
and thus roll back...? What am I missing?
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:11:28 +0000 : Dries
Jeremy: many of us are worried about the performance ramifications this
patch introduces. Early experiments showed a small performance
improvement (while a performance regression might be expected). More
performance reports from large sites like kerneltrap.org will certainly
help this patch. Mind to do a quick performance comparision and to
report back with some numbers? Thanks.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:38:02 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org
Dries: I'm not running HEAD on kerneltrap, so this really isn't a
possibility. Furthermore, until I understand why we're locking tables,
I don't like it. The idea of revisions in their own tables is great.
The idea of locking tables to get (without any obvious benefit) there
really worries me.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:16:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@Jeremy: Thanks for looking at the patch! Also for catching the typo. :)
Did you try to upgrade your database? If yes, how did it go? One of
Dries' concerns is the complexity of the upgrade. How many nodes and
revisions did the db have?
About database locking: This part of the patch was created by Nick and
I simply continued to use it.
Maybe the code should rather be:
if(db_begin_transaction(array('{node}', '{node_revisions}',
'{watchdog}', '{sessions}', '{files}'))) {
db_query($node_query, $node_table_values);
db_query($revisions_query, $revisions_table_values);
db_commit_transaction();
...
}
The idea is probably to avoid two updates at the same time. I don't
think the locking helps if you abort the script at an inconvenient
time. Rollbacks aren't implemented in all mysql versions.
We could omit the db locking if deemed inappropriate. Maybe Nick can
explain his ideas behind this.
@Dries: I wonder who the "many of us" are. They certainly haven't
spoken to me. Moshe had some reservations about the upgrade path and
project module, but the time that project module abused revisions to
store issue updates was long ago and his reservations were resolved.
Nobody else (besides you of course and now Jeremy) has voiced
reservations in a way that was audible to me.
If you grep through the patch you will notice that there are only four
queries which have a join on the node_revisions table. Two of them are
in node_load and in the other cases the join replaced a join on the
node table. The two queries in node_load are the only ones that have
both a join on the node and the revisions query. Thus, loading of
individual nodes might become somewhat slower. All other queries will
be faster since the node table is now much smaller. Also, node loading
does not have to be slower, it depends on your node table. If you had
a lot of revisions and thus a large table, then the new scheme will
make your queries actually faster since we do not load the revisions
on each and every node load anymore. If you didn't have many revisions
your node_load migth be somewhat slower.
WRT to the update script Karoly pointed out that we could use multiple
insert queries instead one query per revision. This would probably
make the update somewhat faster. I am willing to work on this iff you
declare that you will commit the patch afterwards. I'd need to know if
this will work on pgsql and on all supported mysql versions before I
work on it.
About locking: Database locking is dog slow, at least on mysql. I was
using locks in an earlier version of the upgrade script but had to
remove it for (serious!) performance reasons.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 15:07:34 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_26.patch (46.45 KB)
Ok, another update, cause I need it myself.
I've left out the transaction stuff for now. It is in principle
unrelated to this patch and should be discussed elsewhere.
This also makes the patch smaller and easier to review (hint, hint).
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Mon, 09 May 2005 20:32:09 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
The patch contained the update functions twice.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 20:32:26 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_27.patch (39.05 KB)
The patch contained the update functions twice.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:23:06 +0000 : Dries
Got one error during the upgrade path:
ALTER TABLE {book} ADD PRIMARY KEY vid (vid)
FAILED
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:26:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
This had happend to me as well, when I tested this patch. The reason is
that for some reason the vid is not unique. Most likely there are some
entries with vid = 0 in there. Can you check which node types those
have? it always was an error in the test database. See:
http://drupal.org/node/7582#comment-20678
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:27:06 +0000 : Dries
Actually, I got 2850 errors during the upgrade.
Some of these:
sprintf() [function.sprintf]: Too few arguments in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.inc on line 154.
Some of these:
Query was empty query: in drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on
line 66.
And this:
Unknown table 'n' in field list query: SELECT n.nid, n.vid FROM node
INNER JOIN files f ON n.nid = f.nid in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 66.
:-)
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:29:19 +0000 : Dries
Or this:
user error: Unknown column 'log' in 'field list'
query: SELECT parent, weight, log FROM book WHERE nid = 1 in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 66
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:52:12 +0000 : Dries
The time required to generate my main page went from 902 ms (before
upgrade) to 2139 ms (after upgrade).
The time required to generate a forum listing (?q=forum/x) went from
1872 ms (before upgrade) to 2874 ms (after upgrade).
Maybe this is because my database is not consistent as the result of
the upgrade errors (yet I don't see any errors on the pages I
benchmarked).
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Tue, 10 May 2005 00:24:38 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_28.patch (53.47 KB)
Ok, let me get to this from the bottom to the top:
- my test runs indicated a different development wrt timing. If I had
gotten your results, I had stopped working on this long ago. So your
results are wrong for some reason.
- user error: Unknown column 'log' in 'field list'
Wasn't my day, the book patch got lost. It is contained now. First -R
the old patch, then apply this one.
- Unknown table 'n' in field list query:
Walkah found this, but I forgot to fix it. Fixed now.
- I've no idea where the other queries come from. I am hoping that
either your test db is borken or they are follow ups from the other
ones.
If you let me have your test db, I'll try some debugging.
Thanks for wasting your time, too.
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Tue, 10 May 2005 05:07:31 +0000 : Dries
I double-checked and the numbers don't seem to lie. I'll test some more
after work on another machine to make sure it is not platform-specific.
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Wed, 11 May 2005 03:32:47 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_29.patch (54.83 KB)
Ok, here I am again.
What I did:
1) Ask Dries to let me have drupal.org database
2) get 400MB of SQL inserts...
3) take 23 minutes to import said data
4) Remove all image and project nodes (don't want to install their
modules), 11765 nodes left
5) back up data
6) take tests on non-cached /node page (as anonymous user).
ab results:
-c 1 -n 25:
Requests per second: 1.29 [#/sec] (mean)
Connection Times (ms)
min mean[+/-sd] median max
Total: 663 775 179.7 689 1264
7) Do the same for the tracker page:
Requests per second: 0.83 [#/sec] (mean)
Total: 1182 1199 7.4 1199 1217
8) Apply my patch (rev. 28).
9) run db update and hold breath
10) update times out...
11) play back backup from 5)
12) wait
13) getting annoyed and removing cache, watchdog, and accesslog before
playing in backup.
14) wait again. Understand why Dries doesn't try this patch often.
Maybe a smaller DB would do for testing?
15) wait more. get really annoyed.
16) Set time limit to 18000 in update.php
17) try again
18) fails again before the second update is completed.
19) curse.
20) delete search stuff from db. Ooops, sooo much smaller...
21) import again, below 2 minutes...
22) rewrite to use extended insert. Found a bug.
23) still does not complete. Mysql logging to the rescue!
24) tid = 0? Not good.
25) Well, the update works fine till node 10834. 5595 nodes done, 6136
to go.
26) Writing shell based update script. Discovery: 24MB aren't enough.
Hopefully 64 are. Nope.
extended inserts for revisions are apparently not the brightest idea:
Huge memory consumption.
Hmm, no, all updates got through. Selecting the revisions to put them
into old_revisions table screwed it. Learned about CREATE TABLE
old_revisions SELECT syntax.
Yay! finally. 24 MB are just not enough the update.php script seems to
still break.
27) Benchmarks!
/node
Requests per second: 1.54 [#/sec] (mean)
Connection Times (ms)
min mean[+/-sd] median max
Total: 632 649 40.5 636 791
/tracker
Requests per second: 0.86 [#/sec] (mean)
Total: 1119 1165 65.8 1160 1461
Ok: So we get an improvement for many node_loads, but none for simple
selects from node.
More tests can be done.
28) roll new patch
Ain't Drupal fun?
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Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:05 +0000 : Dries
I did another round of tests on _another_ machine and it is not looking
good:
Before upgrade After upgrade
?q= (main page) 218 ms/request 340 ms/request
?q=forum (forum overview) 754 ms/request 1520 ms/request
?q=about (book page) 375 ms/request 5400 ms/request
The upgrade process itself gave me a number of 'query was empty' and
'sprintf(): too few arguments' reports. Everything seems to work fine
though.
Looking at the ?q=about page, I see that the following query is
executed twice _and_ that each time, it take more than 2 seconds to
complete:
SELECT n.nid, n.title, b.parent, b.weight FROM node n INNER JOIN book b
ON n.vid = b.vid WHERE n.status = 1 AND n.moderate = 0 ORDER BY
b.weight, n.title;
--8 SHOW INDEX FROM book;
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
| Table | Non_unique | Key_name | Seq_in_index | Column_name |
Collation | Cardinality | Sub_part | Packed | Null | Index_type |
Comment |
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
| book | 1 | book_parent | 1 | parent | A
| 92 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | |
| book | 1 | nid | 1 | nid | A
| 369 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | |
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
2 rows in set (0.00 sec)
The book module does not appear to have a primary key? Sounds like a
bad idea so I added one:
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD PRIMARY KEY nid (nid);
Query OK, 369 rows affected (0.02 sec)
Records: 369 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
Next, I wanted to make the vid column a unique key in all node tables:
mysql> ALTER TABLE node ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 20392 rows affected (0.81 sec)
Records: 20392 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
ERROR 1062: Duplicate entry '0' for key 2
mysql> ALTER TABLE forum ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 10806 rows affected (0.10 sec)
Records: 10806 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
As you can see, it fails for the book table which makes me believe
there is some inconsistent data ... I set out to fix that:
mysql> SELECT nid, COUNT(nid) AS vids FROM book GROUP BY vid HAVING
vids > 1;
+-----+------+
| nid | vids |
+-----+------+
| 871 | 2 |
+-----+------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
mysql> SELECT title FROM node WHERE nid = 871;
Empty set (0.00 sec)
mysql> DELETE FROM book WHERE nid = 871;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 368 rows affected (0.01 sec)
Records: 368 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
Looks like everything is well now. Ran some new benchmarks:
Before upgrade After upgrade With
indices
?q= (main page) 218 ms/request 340 ms/request 336
ms/request
?q=forum (forum overview) 754 ms/request 1520 ms/request 1531
ms/request
?q=about (book page) 375 ms/request 5400 ms/request 475
ms/request
Unfortunately, we're still slower than the original code.
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Wed, 18 May 2005 21:53:31 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Dries, thanks for testing it again.
I do think the broken queries you observer have something to do with
the bad performance after the update. Please log the queries any I will
have a look at them. I've never seen any such queries.
My update script also tries to create the appropriate indices, but it
will of course fail if the database contains cruft. the indices for the
forum are probably missing, too.
I am still convinced that the patch is core worthy.
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Thu, 19 May 2005 04:36:09 +0000 : Dries
It wouldn't hurt if more people would benchmark this patch. The patch's
current performance worries me.
Did you check your watchdog messages after upgrading the drupal.org
database? Depending on your settings, errors might only be shown in
the watchdog. I'll look into the remaining glitches as time permits.
Thanks for your persistence in keeping this patch up-to-date. :)
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Thu, 19 May 2005 11:59:22 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Dries: Can you please let me have your updated database? I want to have
a look at it and try my own benchmarks with it.
And yes, if I did learn something on this project is how to be
persistant. ;)
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:25:34 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Here is an idea that occurred to me:
The problem with the upgrade process is that keeping the existing
revisions requires a lot of work to do. This generates a huge amount of
sql queries for a large database and also requires a huge amount of
memory.
My suggestions is to let update.php only handle the basic upgrade, ie
without old revisions. An additional module could be created that would
implement a cron based approach to upgrading old revisions one node at a
time. it could expose a hook to let contrib modules do their own
upgrades.
Dries, what do you think? (I am writing "Dries" because he seems to be
the only one who is interested in getting this into core...)
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:25:11 +0000 : Junyor
Killes:
I'm also interested in seeing this hit core. What about adding
something to legacy.module to do it?
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Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:14:54 +0000 : chx
This is a sensible approach. Maybe this is the _only_ sensible approach.
I have a little problem though: while the conversion is running somehow
both revision handlers should be available.
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Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:16:21 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
hehe, one only has to whine and bug enough and one gets some feedback.
;)
@junyor: legacy.module would be a good place. my current idea is to
auto-enable it in update.php and then disable it again in legacy_cron
after all nodes are updated.. ;)
@chx: When somebody wants to look at revisions of a node that node
could be auto-updated.
The only problem are contrib modules: they's need to have some hook in
order to update their own data. When somebody looks at the revisions of
a node than cannot be updated because the contrib module in question has
no such hook, we can optionally let the user discard old revisions I
guess.
Dries, what do you think?
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:48:51 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_30.patch (53.13 KB)
Sooooo; I've updated this patch once again.
Dries didn't like my idea of legacy updates so we will have an option
to discard old revisions in case the update should prove difficult.
Always keep a backup.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:31:12 +0000 : Bèr Kessels
can we please accept and commit this patch? We can iron out any issues
later. This patch is just far too big and complex to be
perfect-at-once.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:22:50 +0000 : Dries
@Ber: no, we can't commit this patch blindly.
Data loss is a much bigger problem than a syntax error or other code
glitch. We can break Drupal but we can't break their data.
I've spent quite a bit of time testing the previous version of this
patch and noticed significant performance degradation.
Tell me, Ber, why can't you test this patch first?
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:40:37 +0000 : Bèr Kessels
I was not referring to not testing it. If it is just the upgrade path
that proves to be cumbersome, then why can we not fix it afterwards,
I.e. when everyone has had a good chance to look at it.
Testing such a huge patch requires a lot of work. something no-one just
does in his spare hours. We had discussions before to deal in a slightly
different way with big changes; to commit them quicker and to leave the
ironing out of any left overs for the community. I hooked into that
discussion here. For two reasons. One is that Gerhard has spent
numerous hours on maintaining this patch. The other one is that the
community can be of help with ironing out issues in such a large
change, much better than that Gerhard can do on his own.
And yes, dataloss is very bad, but no-one should loose data, when
he/she followed the instructions (backing up)...
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:00:38 +0000 : Dries
Ber: applying this patch takes 15 seconds. Whether I apply this patch
for you, or whether you apply it yourself, it will hardly reduce the
'testing cost'. The problem is that data loss can be subtle; it might
go unnoticed for a couple days. Make no mistake, I'd like to see this
patch committed ASAP, but it warrants some testing. Let's
test/benchmark it and commit it.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:55:03 +0000 : drumm
The upgrade script already takes a long time to execute and does not
provide feedback to the user about how it is doing. I plan on making
the upgrade script able to spread the updates across multiple page
views and give user feedback showing that progress is being made. This
will hopefully make the speed of this update a moot point.
I am working on this for my dayjob, CivicSpace, so it should get done
"real soon now", but it should be expected to take awhile (smallish
number of weeks). Please make comprimises if necessary.
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Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:38:57 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_31.patch (48.78 KB)
@drumm: the timeout isn't usually the problem. Memory consumption is.
I'll look into doing the updates in chunks of 1000 nodes or so.
Clousseau found a bug in the patch, updated.
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:28:08 +0000 : moshe weitzman
Even if the upgrade issues are resolved, we have to figure out why this
patch is slowing down drupal (according to benchmarks posted here).
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:51:45 +0000 : Dries
We can't proceed without some additional benchmarking. I already
benchmarked it on two machines (see comments above), and I'll benchmark
it again after August 10. The performance impact of this patch worries
me so if two other people could test and benchmark this patch
extensively, that would come a long way. August 10 is close to the
code freeze so some help is necessary.
If Gerhard/killes reviewed/tested one of your patches, it is time to
return the favor ...
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:40:31 +0000 : Jose A Reyero
After looking at the patch I'm not really surprised this slows down
everything. I thought that the reason why we wanted revisions in their
own table was in the first place to have a simpler -and faster- node
table. But this patch:
- Adds fields and complexity not only to the node table but also to all
the main tables for data
- Needs additional joins just to retrieve single nodes (which is done
many times for a typical main page)
- Does away with encapsulation of the revision functionality requiring
other modules to handle revissions related data.
So please, please, please:
- Make revisions table only needed when actually using revisions
- Keep that old nice thing of hiding revisions system from other
modules
- And what's so bad with serializing data anyway? I agree that usually
there are better ways to store data. But this is one of the cases where
serialization does make sense. Not the current huge serialized field,
but only a new table with one serialized node per row.
- In general, do it much simpler. This is way too complex and it
removes more functionality than it adds.
In just four words: keep it simple, please.
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:25:26 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_32.patch (51.27 KB)
Patch updated (v31 was buggy, and there was an update to updates.inc).
I've had a discussion with Jose and he will maybe do some testing over
the weekend. John is also doing some testing as we speak.
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 16:06:59 +0000 : Nick Nassar
It has been exactly one year since I first submitted this patch.
You know what that means: *old patch party in IRC!* Virtual beers on
me!
w00t!
1
0
Issue status update for
http://drupal.org/node/7582
Post a follow up:
http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/7582
Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: node system
Category: bug reports
Priority: normal
Assigned to: killes(a)www.drop.org
Reported by: killes(a)www.drop.org
Updated by: Nick Nassar
Status: patch
It has been exactly one year since I first submitted this patch.
You know what that means: *old patch party in IRC!* Virtual beers on
me!
w00t!
Nick Nassar
Previous comments:
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Wed, 05 May 2004 16:25:27 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Currently all node revisions are stored in a serialized field in
node.table and retrieved for _each_ page view although they are rarely
needed. However, we have agreed that serializing data is bad and that
we should try to keep the memory foot print pf Drupal small.
Therefore I propose to create a separate revisions table which would be
in principle identical to the node table, only that it could have
several old copies of the same node. Extra data added by other modules
could be added in a serialized field unless we find a better solution.
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Wed, 05 May 2004 17:06:35 +0000 : jhriggs
I too think the serialized approach is less than desirable, but here's
an alternative. This would likely take some considerable rework in
core and contrib, but the following is how we handle similar types of
situations in our databases at work. It is more elegant that a
separate table, and avoids the (almost exact) duplication of a table.
Instead of separate tables, keep all revisions of nodes in the node
table as follows:
* add field: active (0/1 or Y/N)
* add field: revision
* every revision of a node is stored in the node table; however, only
one revision can be active at any given time
* nid can no longer be unique -- primary/unique key becomes (nid,
active)
* any time a node is loaded, updated (without revision), etc., the
active version is used.
Thoughts?
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Wed, 05 May 2004 17:57:48 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
I am not opposed to your scheme, but I want to stress the following:
* Duplicating a table's structure is not bad (IMHO) as long as the
content is different.
* having two tables will allow us to have a rather small node table.
This is (maybe) a performance gain.
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Wed, 05 May 2004 18:37:29 +0000 : jhriggs
I don't necessarily think that duplicating a table's structure is _bad_.
It just seems to be wasteful and a pain to maintain. (Every change to
the node table is made twice...easy to do, but also easy to miss
perhaps.)
As for performance, as long as nid and the active indicator are
indexed, there shouldn't be any performance loss. Also, archiving an
old version when making a new revision will be much simpler: just
change the active indicator rather than copying an entire node to
another table (and ensuring everything gets copied...again a potential
maintainance issue).
To be honest, I would just like to see the serialized data go away,
regarless of what approach is taken.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:49:33 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_07-30-2004.p… (10.47 KB)
I'm interested in using Drupal for a large scale wiki-type project. In
order to do this, I need revisions to be in their own table.
Attached is a patch to do just that. Most of the changes are pretty
self explanatory. Spreading out node data across two tables meant that
I had to add database functions to do locking/transactions. Without
this, race conditions in which the database becomes corrupted are
possible.
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Fri, 30 Jul 2004 19:54:36 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Oh yeah... The patch is a diff against Drupal CVS
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 00:00:08 +0000 : Anonymous
Gerhard speaking.
Nick, thanks a lot for your nice patch! It saves me a great deal of
labour. I looked through it and immediately liked it. You not only put
the old revisions into a new table but also the current one. Do you
have an estimate how much more expensive the additional join is?
Besides a few minor coding style issues I found a major one: Just a few
hours before you uploaded your patch JonBob's node access patch hit
core. That means your patch won't apply anymore as all the queries you
change have been changed. Can I bug you to update your patch?
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 01:11:59 +0000 : Anonymous
Also I think that your upgrade path loses existing revisions.
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 02:39:12 +0000 : drumm
I think this is the proper way to do things. No columns are duplicated,
there is no serialized data, and only the fields that are logically
revised are stored. Nothing jumped out at me as a way to have my node
modules be able to keep a table of revisions of additional fields. I'm
guessing this could be done within the confines of _insert and _update.
Assuming the upgrade path works and modules can extend it I give it a
+1.
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Sat, 31 Jul 2004 14:40:15 +0000 : Nick Nassar
It figures that just as I finish a big patch, another patch comes along
and breaks it. Oh well, it should be a pretty easy to fix. I'll work on
it.
Fixing the upgrade path to keep revisions should be fairly painless.
I found another issue that needs to be fixed before this patch gets
merged. There format of a node needs to be stored for each revision.
Otherwise, for modules that store a format for the nodes, such as page
and book, if you write one revision in PHP and the next in HTML, the
PHP revision will be displayed as HTML. This is part of a larger issue
of how node modules should store revisions of additional fields. I
think each module that wants to do this should create another table
with (nid, revid) as the primary key. Just as when they want to add
fields to a node they create another table with nid as the primary key.
As far as performance goes, for sites that make heavy use of revisions,
an extra join on primary keys is going to be a lot faster than grabbing
all of the revisions from that database everytime. We would need to run
benchmarks to determine is the overall difference in speed is for an
average site is a gain or a loss. I'm guessing it's very minor either
way.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 13:55:49 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_08-23-2004.p… (10.92 KB)
Here's an updated patch against CVS that puts revisions in their own
table, provides an upgrade path, and fixes the format related bugs in
the last patch.
Hopefully, this can make it into CVS as soon as the freeze is over.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 14:10:39 +0000 : moshe weitzman
Interesting patch ... drumm's question is still outstanding. how do
modules store revisions of their fields? Are they expected to manage
this on their own? Thats not how it works today.
As an aside, i am seeing profile_ fields in my node.revisions column.
One could argue that those need not be saved. They pertain to the node
author, not to the node itself.
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 16:14:39 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Having modules be responsible for storing revisions of their own fields
is a side-effect of storing revision data in tables. There's really no
way around it. However, revisions generally don't make sense for node
types that don't have PHP/HTML content, such as polls. I think it's
going to be a pretty rare scenario for a new node type to want another
field to change per-revision, so it's a pretty good trade-off.
Storing fields that shouldn't be part of revisions, such as the
profile_ fields, is a side-effect of storing revisions as serialized
objects. Applying this patch will free up that wasted space. :)
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 17:20:57 +0000 : Anonymous
There should be a hook that let's the module choose whether it supports
history. This way a module author can prevent the user from doing
something that may break his module or just cause undefined behavior.
If the module doesn't support history then don't let the user/admin
choose to add history to nodes of that type.
Craig
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Mon, 23 Aug 2004 19:23:29 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I agree, there should be an API change to make specifying support for
revisions easier. In the interests of keeping patches small and keeping
to one change per patch, I think the API change should be a separate
issue.
A sort of ad-hoc API to decide whether or not a module supports
revisions by default already exists. Instead of having a hook, modules
set the default value of the "Create new revision" field in the edit
form. The admin can change this option in
admin/node/configure/defaults. This patch doesn't change that.
Revisions are broken for node types that have their own database
structure, like polls, even when storing them as serialized objects.
This patch doesn't change that, either.
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Tue, 26 Oct 2004 02:35:06 +0000 : moshe weitzman
I'm guessing that someone is going to have to demonstrate that this
patch performs as well as current drupal before it gets comitted. i
think this patch is a few benchmarks from being comitted.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:04:09 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004.p… (11 KB)
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:05:16 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Wed, 27 Oct 2004 01:05:26 +0000 : Nick Nassar
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004.p… (11 KB)
I ran some really unscientific benchmarks, and it looks like this patch
has a negligible affect on performance.
I used apache bench and the database from theregular.org, which doesn't
contain any revisions (worst case scenario for this patch) and contains
several hundred nodes. Both the patched and unpatched versions hovered
between 2.36 and 2.38 requests per second.
The command I used was:
ab -n50 -C 'PHPSESSID=b01a9f92880ef215b0ed6f1314a5eba2'
http://192.168.0.100/
An updated patch that should apply to CVS is attached.
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Mon, 15 Nov 2004 05:05:30 +0000 : elias1884
please overthink the revision system default workflow as well. don't
look at the revision system as an isolated system but as a part of the
whole workflow system!
if you combine revisions with the moderation queue the most logic
default workflow would be like that:
auth user creates node (revision #0)
admin approves the node (status = 1, moderation = 0)
=> node publicly available
auth user finds typo and changes node (revision #1, status = 0,
moderation = 1)
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what happens at that point at the moment is, that the node is not
accessible anymore at all until the new revision is approved by admin.
of course the new revision should not go online until reviewed and
approved, this is absolutely correct, but there is no reason to not
take the old revision offline, since it was already approved and should
therefore be online until the new revision is approved. it is not
practical if a node disappears only because the author corrected a
typo.
-------
admin approves the node (status = 1, moderation = 0)
eventhough I first thought a plain boolean active field would not be
capable of providing that functionality if finally came to the
conclusion, that it can. The only thing to do is to not set that bit,
when a new revision is created, but when it is approved (in case
moderation is activated under default workflow). Every revision should
have its own moderation, status and active field and on approval they
are set like this (status=1, moderation=0, active=Y).
When you wanna rollback to an old revision, you can chose between all
revisions that already have the moderation bit set back to 0 again and
the published to 1. There should be an extra permission for rollback!
another concern that I have about the default workflow is, that users
can't see the content, they have just created, when moderation is
enabled. Eventhough, there is a big fat "submission accepted" presented
after submissions, unexperienced users tend to question the information
those stupid tincans give them, if they can't find their content
afterwards. Many users are really lazy bastards and they don't even
read the status messages. The best feedback about whether his story was
submitted successfully or not of course is, if he can find the story
somewhere on the site, maybe with a status message on top of it,
mentioning, that the content is currently not publicly available since
it has not been approved yet. there should be a my content section
under my account, like somebody is trying to do with the workspace
module I guess.
so my suggestion is to make (status=0, moderation=1) still available
for the creator under a my content section somewhere!
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Wed, 24 Nov 2004 04:21:18 +0000 : Nick Nassar
I agree. The current workflow for moderation queues and revisions needs
to change, but this patch isn't the place for it. The patch is already
too big, and it only does the backend stuff.
Instead of adding more to this patch and making it take even longer to
get into core, would you mind creating a new issue for your UI
suggestions, so the those changes can be added as a separate patch?
Thanks,
Nick
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Sat, 11 Dec 2004 12:26:02 +0000 : Dries
This patch is _much_ needed so I'd love to see someone revive it. In
order for this patch to be accepted, the following needs to be done:
* Update this patch to CVS HEAD.
* Rename revid to vid.
* Rename node_rev to node_revisions.
* Rename node_rev.changed to node_revisions.timestamp.
* Rename $rnode to $revision.
* Fix the coding style to match Drupal's: proper spacing, single quotes
where possible, proper variable names.
* Benchmark this patch with a large database with enough revisions.
I'd be happy to benchmark this on my local copy of the drupal.org
database.
* The book.log field should probably move to the node_revisions table.
This can be done in a separate patch.
* Investigate whether transactions are well-supported.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 00:25:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/Drupal-Improved_Revision_Schema_10-26-2004-r… (11.02 KB)
I've worked a bit on the patch (coding style issues as mentioned by
Dries). One thing I noticed is that the patch uses REPLACE. IIRC this
needs to be chagned to "UPDATE, if fail INSERT" for pgsql
compatibility.
Nick, are you still interested in working on that patch? I'd like to
know how it works on your site and work on getting it into core.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 12:33:08 +0000 : Dries
Gerhard: your patch does not apply.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:10:12 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Yes, I know, that was the same version as I mailed to you earlier.
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Mon, 13 Dec 2004 21:02:06 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions.patch (52.96 KB)
Ok, upüdated the patch to cvs.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 08:58:36 +0000 : Dries
Some more comments:
* db_begin_transaction() and db_end_transaction() do not belong in
database.inc, but in database.mysql.inc and database.pgsql.inc
respectively.
* The node module calls node_revisionsision_list() which is not
defined. (Fxed that on my local copy.)
* Do db_begin_transaction() and db_end_transaction() deprecate Jeremy's
table locking patch?
* The upgrade path assigns the wrong user ID to each revision.
* The upgrade path assigns the wrong date to each revision (that or a
node's revision page shows the wrong usernames/dates).
* The coding style needs a bit of work, but we can worry about that
later.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:34:44 +0000 : Nick Nassar
If you need any help getting those things fixed, just let me know.
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 17:50:30 +0000 : Nick Nassar
How this relates to Jeremy's node locking patch:
There was lots of discussion, and node locking was decided against
because from an end user point of view you never want a node to be
locked. He's now advocating for a much simpler patch that warns users
if their changes will overwrite someone elses. That patch still has a
race condition, which might be fixed using db_begin_transaction().
http://drupal.org/node/6025
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Tue, 14 Dec 2004 22:26:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_0.patch (55.96 KB)
Here is an updated patch that tries to address Dries concerns.
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Wed, 15 Dec 2004 08:32:50 +0000 : Dries
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions-bug.png (76.06 KB)
It didn't fix the aforementioned bugs. See attached screenshot.
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Thu, 06 Jan 2005 20:15:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_1.patch (51.77 KB)
Ok, here is a new version. Dries and myself worked hart at it, so please
have a look.
what is still missing
- database upgrades for the core modules with an own table
- contrib modules need an upgrade too.
- do we need nid and vid in both the node and the node_revisions table?
- the amount of sql queries means a good stress testing for large
databases.
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Wed, 19 Jan 2005 21:43:49 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_2.patch (49.49 KB)
Here is an updated patch. We discussed to keep the current title in node
module and also in the revisiosn table. This is content duplication but
will save many joins as many queries only need the title of a node.
Discussion is welcome.
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Wed, 19 Jan 2005 23:33:32 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_3.patch (29.93 KB)
I've implemented the aforementioned solution. This makes the patch much
smaller. The patch now also removes taxonomy_node_has_term() which
wasn't used anywhere. I'd really apprciate if some people could test
drive the patch. It will be another huge improvement for 4.6.
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 00:05:54 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_4.patch (30 KB)
Another revision. Steven didn't like my literal $node->vid in queries.
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Thu, 20 Jan 2005 01:10:50 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
- database upgrades for the core modules with an own table
- contrib modules need an upgrade too.
- do we need nid and vid in both the node and the node_revisions table?
- the amount of sql queries means a good stress testing for large
databases.
These issues are still open, btw. Especially the first one needs to be
tackled.
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Tue, 25 Jan 2005 20:11:59 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_5.patch (51.13 KB)
Here is a patch that has the database tables updated for forum, book,
and page module.
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Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:55:59 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_6.patch (49.18 KB)
Yet another update to keep it working with head. The patch now also
removes the table definitons for the page table.
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Sat, 29 Jan 2005 22:57:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_7.patch (55.69 KB)
Sorry, that was the old version, this is the right one.
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 19:55:03 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_8.patch (55.71 KB)
Updated once more.
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 20:52:08 +0000 : Dries
Anyone to help review/test this?
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Mon, 31 Jan 2005 21:22:36 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_9.patch (49.29 KB)
Updated again, the update functions occurred twice. Thanks Bart.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:27:05 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Don't know if the db I am using is corrupted or what. I still do have
some didficulties.
The latest patch is attached.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 00:27:49 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_10.patch (49.67 KB)
I am probably slowly going mad ...
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 01:54:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_11.patch (48.95 KB)
The update issue still needs investigating. This patch is updated for
cvs.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:20:51 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_12.patch (49.83 KB)
Ok, here is a new version. I've solved my troubles with book.module.
There are still some issues with forum module. Possibly due to
inconsistent database.
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Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:31:05 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_13.patch (49.83 KB)
Turns out the drupal.org database had indeed some quirks. Please run
this query in your oldest db and tell me the result:
select nid,type from node where type like '%/%';
If you get a non-zero result we might need to add another security
update.
The patch could use still more testing, though.
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:16:54 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_14.patch (49 KB)
Ok, we are getting somewhere. At a first glance the update is working.
There is a problem remaining: the revisions tab will be shown whether
the node has revisions or not. Not sure we can/need to fix this.
People with a drupal.org account can log in at
http://killes.drupaldevs.org/revision/ and poke around. Your
permissions will be the same as on drupal.org. Feel free to vreak
everything but don't forget to file complaints here. (Note: this is
only a pruned version of the drupal.org database with all project nodes
and nodes with nids > 7000 dropped).
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 04:19:14 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_15.patch (52.39 KB)
There was some error in node_save and also the patches to the
database.inc files got lost...
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:07:27 +0000 : robertDouglass
Submitting book pages doesn't work on your test site. It puts the entire
content of the preview inside the body textarea. I wrote a sentence in
the body and the log, and pressing preview put several lines of HTML
containing both sentences in the body textarea on the preview page,
plus the book page wouldn't submit.
-R
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 07:50:59 +0000 : Junyor
0 results here. I started using Drupal with version 4.4, though.
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 23:56:18 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@Junyor: Thanks, that's a good sign. Maybe somebody else has an older db
to try.
@robertDouglass: The first effect you describe is due to drupaldevs
running on PHP 5. I am unsure why the second thing does not work. In
node_save() the node object has a nid although there is none in the
form. Very strange.
I've enabled display of db queries on the testsite.
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Fri, 04 Feb 2005 19:17:55 +0000 : dmjossel
No results here on the query:
select nid,type from node where type like '%/%';
On a database that was put in place prior to Drupal 4 and is now
running on 4.5.2.
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Fri, 04 Feb 2005 20:44:23 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@dmjossel: thanks.
@all. The strange problem I reported was apparently php 5 related.
After applying Steven's php 5 patch it went away. One error is
remaining: If I create a new forum topic it will be shown as part of
the book on preview. Hmm, that was due to a db that got corrupted
during testing so that is fixed too.
Please poke around at the test site and look if you find more errors.
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 07:16:22 +0000 : Steven
By the way, I just remembered that Drupal.org has some blogs lingering
on in the database even though blog.module is not enabled. Perhaps this
is causing troubles?
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 11:22:59 +0000 : Anonymous
I can't see why it would. Drupal.org will need extra updates for images
and project nodes because those have their own tables. GK.
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Sun, 06 Feb 2005 12:49:55 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_16.patch (52.49 KB)
Updated to apply to cvs again.
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Tue, 22 Feb 2005 20:15:40 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_17.patch (49.64 KB)
Updated again.
All we need is a patch to upload module and an upgrade path for it.
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Fri, 04 Mar 2005 04:22:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_18.patch (52.31 KB)
Updated once more. Moved log field from book to node_revisions table as
discussed in Antwerp. upload module still missing.
We need to decide under which circumstances the log field should be
displayed. Should that be added to the workflow? Should it depend on
the revisions setting?
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Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:27:03 +0000 : Anonymous
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_20.patch (75.52 KB)
Ok, here it is: Yet another revision of this grrrrreat patch.
Changes from previous versions:
- supports versioning for uploaded files. A problem is that if you
delete a file, it will be gone for all revisions.
- the log field is now in the node_revsions table, but each module has
to decide whether to show it or not.
I've implemented it for the page and the book type odes. Also, the
field can be edited when adding non-book nodes to the book. The log is
displayed on the revisions page and if a node is moderated.
- the revisions are moved to an old_revisions table to a) get the node
table smaller and b) still leave the mavailable for contrib modules
that want to retreive old version data.
The patch has been applied to killes.drupaldevs.org/revision where it
can be tested by anybody (especially people who have "site admin"
rights on drupal.org)
The database is from drupal.org and you should b able to log in with
your pass or simply mail yourself a new one.
Gerhard
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Sat, 05 Mar 2005 19:51:56 +0000 : Anonymous
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_21.patch (59.42 KB)
BTW, I marked this a bug because atm the revisions field can grow quite
big. Neil has reported problems from some users who were not able to
load some nodes due to to many large revisions.
Also, som unrelated stuff crept into the patch. New version attached.
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Tue, 08 Mar 2005 05:56:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_22.patch (60.29 KB)
Ok, I think I got it.
Changes to last version:
- uploads are no properly versioned.
Missing are still pgsql checks and updates.
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Thu, 10 Mar 2005 16:58:41 +0000 : Anonymous
Was able to get http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_21.patch to
work with drupal-cvs.tar.gz (10 March 2005) by:
- includes/database.mysql.inc: Commenting out duplicates for functions
function db_begin_transaction and function db_commit_transaction
- modules: node.module: Removing "'title' => $node->title," from
$node_table_values variable declaration and removing "'title' =>
"'%s'"," from "$node_table_types" variable declaration.
Happy to submit a patch if requested. I'll watch this thread.
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Fri, 11 Mar 2005 23:59:45 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
The duplicate function has been removed in rev 22 of this patch.
Why do you think the changes in node_save are needed? Titles are saved
in both tables for performance reasons.
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Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:12:21 +0000 : jlerner
Hi - I posted comment #62. The changes to node_save appear to be needed
because recent patches (both 21 and 22) remove the field 'title' from
table 'node'. So without the changes to node_save, node.module is
broken and generates errors.
Joshua
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Sun, 13 Mar 2005 16:29:42 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_23.patch (61.17 KB)
Thanks, Joshua, for catching this. node:title is there to stay.
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Wed, 13 Apr 2005 16:29:23 +0000 : moshe weitzman
since HEAD is open again, perhaps it is a good time to revisit this
patch.
once this is committed, lets address - http://drupal.org/node/11071
"node_validate does not respect group editing"
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Mon, 18 Apr 2005 15:43:42 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_24.patch (60.39 KB)
Updated.
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Mon, 18 Apr 2005 16:16:32 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_24_0.patch (60.39 KB)
Updated.
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:19:42 +0000 : Dries
I'll commit this patch later this week! If you haven't checked this
patch already, I urge you to test/check it out because it will have
significant impact on existing code and modules!
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:21:33 +0000 : Dries
Also, what do people think about the n.title being duplicated?
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 05:26:58 +0000 : chx
I won't lose any sleep because of duplicated titles...
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Tue, 19 Apr 2005 18:35:58 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Let me explain why I have chosen to duplicate the title (and also the
uid): If you look at all the queries in Drupal, you will find that most
of them only need the title and th uid of a node. That is, by
duplicating it, we save expensive joins on the node_revisions table.
Due to this fact, this patch is actually a performance improvement.
A note about updating contrib module:
Strictly speaking they wouldn't need to be updated. They only need to
if their authors decide that their info should be available for
revisioning. The upgrade path for forum.module in my update.inc patch
(+ the forum patch)
should show you what needs to be done.
I will write a note for the update page once the patch hits core.
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Sun, 24 Apr 2005 21:21:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_25.patch (60.38 KB)
Updated to cvs.
Dries: Based on some remarks in #drupal this is the last update I am
going to do. Apply it or won't fix it.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 03:42:39 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_25.patch.patch (528 bytes)
That's a big patch. I've only started looking through it. I noticed
one little typo, affecting updates. A patch to your last patch is
attached.
I'm running with the revision patch on my dev server now happily. I
like the concept.
What happens if you click 'stop' on your browser in the middle of a
MySQL "transaction"? I assume that kills the connection to MySQL, and
the lock is freed? But this then leaves changes only partially
applied?
What exactly does locking/unlocking the tables buy us in MySQL? I
don't see anywhere that we detect if an apply fails part way through,
and thus roll back...? What am I missing?
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 07:11:28 +0000 : Dries
Jeremy: many of us are worried about the performance ramifications this
patch introduces. Early experiments showed a small performance
improvement (while a performance regression might be expected). More
performance reports from large sites like kerneltrap.org will certainly
help this patch. Mind to do a quick performance comparision and to
report back with some numbers? Thanks.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 12:38:02 +0000 : Jeremy(a)kerneltrap.org
Dries: I'm not running HEAD on kerneltrap, so this really isn't a
possibility. Furthermore, until I understand why we're locking tables,
I don't like it. The idea of revisions in their own tables is great.
The idea of locking tables to get (without any obvious benefit) there
really worries me.
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Sat, 30 Apr 2005 14:16:01 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
@Jeremy: Thanks for looking at the patch! Also for catching the typo. :)
Did you try to upgrade your database? If yes, how did it go? One of
Dries' concerns is the complexity of the upgrade. How many nodes and
revisions did the db have?
About database locking: This part of the patch was created by Nick and
I simply continued to use it.
Maybe the code should rather be:
if(db_begin_transaction(array('{node}', '{node_revisions}',
'{watchdog}', '{sessions}', '{files}'))) {
db_query($node_query, $node_table_values);
db_query($revisions_query, $revisions_table_values);
db_commit_transaction();
...
}
The idea is probably to avoid two updates at the same time. I don't
think the locking helps if you abort the script at an inconvenient
time. Rollbacks aren't implemented in all mysql versions.
We could omit the db locking if deemed inappropriate. Maybe Nick can
explain his ideas behind this.
@Dries: I wonder who the "many of us" are. They certainly haven't
spoken to me. Moshe had some reservations about the upgrade path and
project module, but the time that project module abused revisions to
store issue updates was long ago and his reservations were resolved.
Nobody else (besides you of course and now Jeremy) has voiced
reservations in a way that was audible to me.
If you grep through the patch you will notice that there are only four
queries which have a join on the node_revisions table. Two of them are
in node_load and in the other cases the join replaced a join on the
node table. The two queries in node_load are the only ones that have
both a join on the node and the revisions query. Thus, loading of
individual nodes might become somewhat slower. All other queries will
be faster since the node table is now much smaller. Also, node loading
does not have to be slower, it depends on your node table. If you had
a lot of revisions and thus a large table, then the new scheme will
make your queries actually faster since we do not load the revisions
on each and every node load anymore. If you didn't have many revisions
your node_load migth be somewhat slower.
WRT to the update script Karoly pointed out that we could use multiple
insert queries instead one query per revision. This would probably
make the update somewhat faster. I am willing to work on this iff you
declare that you will commit the patch afterwards. I'd need to know if
this will work on pgsql and on all supported mysql versions before I
work on it.
About locking: Database locking is dog slow, at least on mysql. I was
using locks in an earlier version of the upgrade script but had to
remove it for (serious!) performance reasons.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 15:07:34 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_26.patch (46.45 KB)
Ok, another update, cause I need it myself.
I've left out the transaction stuff for now. It is in principle
unrelated to this patch and should be discussed elsewhere.
This also makes the patch smaller and easier to review (hint, hint).
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Mon, 09 May 2005 20:32:09 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
The patch contained the update functions twice.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 20:32:26 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_27.patch (39.05 KB)
The patch contained the update functions twice.
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:23:06 +0000 : Dries
Got one error during the upgrade path:
ALTER TABLE {book} ADD PRIMARY KEY vid (vid)
FAILED
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:26:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
This had happend to me as well, when I tested this patch. The reason is
that for some reason the vid is not unique. Most likely there are some
entries with vid = 0 in there. Can you check which node types those
have? it always was an error in the test database. See:
http://drupal.org/node/7582#comment-20678
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:27:06 +0000 : Dries
Actually, I got 2850 errors during the upgrade.
Some of these:
sprintf() [function.sprintf]: Too few arguments in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.inc on line 154.
Some of these:
Query was empty query: in drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on
line 66.
And this:
Unknown table 'n' in field list query: SELECT n.nid, n.vid FROM node
INNER JOIN files f ON n.nid = f.nid in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 66.
:-)
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:29:19 +0000 : Dries
Or this:
user error: Unknown column 'log' in 'field list'
query: SELECT parent, weight, log FROM book WHERE nid = 1 in
drupal-cvs/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 66
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Mon, 09 May 2005 21:52:12 +0000 : Dries
The time required to generate my main page went from 902 ms (before
upgrade) to 2139 ms (after upgrade).
The time required to generate a forum listing (?q=forum/x) went from
1872 ms (before upgrade) to 2874 ms (after upgrade).
Maybe this is because my database is not consistent as the result of
the upgrade errors (yet I don't see any errors on the pages I
benchmarked).
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Tue, 10 May 2005 00:24:38 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_28.patch (53.47 KB)
Ok, let me get to this from the bottom to the top:
- my test runs indicated a different development wrt timing. If I had
gotten your results, I had stopped working on this long ago. So your
results are wrong for some reason.
- user error: Unknown column 'log' in 'field list'
Wasn't my day, the book patch got lost. It is contained now. First -R
the old patch, then apply this one.
- Unknown table 'n' in field list query:
Walkah found this, but I forgot to fix it. Fixed now.
- I've no idea where the other queries come from. I am hoping that
either your test db is borken or they are follow ups from the other
ones.
If you let me have your test db, I'll try some debugging.
Thanks for wasting your time, too.
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Tue, 10 May 2005 05:07:31 +0000 : Dries
I double-checked and the numbers don't seem to lie. I'll test some more
after work on another machine to make sure it is not platform-specific.
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Wed, 11 May 2005 03:32:47 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_29.patch (54.83 KB)
Ok, here I am again.
What I did:
1) Ask Dries to let me have drupal.org database
2) get 400MB of SQL inserts...
3) take 23 minutes to import said data
4) Remove all image and project nodes (don't want to install their
modules), 11765 nodes left
5) back up data
6) take tests on non-cached /node page (as anonymous user).
ab results:
-c 1 -n 25:
Requests per second: 1.29 [#/sec] (mean)
Connection Times (ms)
min mean[+/-sd] median max
Total: 663 775 179.7 689 1264
7) Do the same for the tracker page:
Requests per second: 0.83 [#/sec] (mean)
Total: 1182 1199 7.4 1199 1217
8) Apply my patch (rev. 28).
9) run db update and hold breath
10) update times out...
11) play back backup from 5)
12) wait
13) getting annoyed and removing cache, watchdog, and accesslog before
playing in backup.
14) wait again. Understand why Dries doesn't try this patch often.
Maybe a smaller DB would do for testing?
15) wait more. get really annoyed.
16) Set time limit to 18000 in update.php
17) try again
18) fails again before the second update is completed.
19) curse.
20) delete search stuff from db. Ooops, sooo much smaller...
21) import again, below 2 minutes...
22) rewrite to use extended insert. Found a bug.
23) still does not complete. Mysql logging to the rescue!
24) tid = 0? Not good.
25) Well, the update works fine till node 10834. 5595 nodes done, 6136
to go.
26) Writing shell based update script. Discovery: 24MB aren't enough.
Hopefully 64 are. Nope.
extended inserts for revisions are apparently not the brightest idea:
Huge memory consumption.
Hmm, no, all updates got through. Selecting the revisions to put them
into old_revisions table screwed it. Learned about CREATE TABLE
old_revisions SELECT syntax.
Yay! finally. 24 MB are just not enough the update.php script seems to
still break.
27) Benchmarks!
/node
Requests per second: 1.54 [#/sec] (mean)
Connection Times (ms)
min mean[+/-sd] median max
Total: 632 649 40.5 636 791
/tracker
Requests per second: 0.86 [#/sec] (mean)
Total: 1119 1165 65.8 1160 1461
Ok: So we get an improvement for many node_loads, but none for simple
selects from node.
More tests can be done.
28) roll new patch
Ain't Drupal fun?
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Wed, 18 May 2005 13:38:05 +0000 : Dries
I did another round of tests on _another_ machine and it is not looking
good:
Before upgrade After upgrade
?q= (main page) 218 ms/request 340 ms/request
?q=forum (forum overview) 754 ms/request 1520 ms/request
?q=about (book page) 375 ms/request 5400 ms/request
The upgrade process itself gave me a number of 'query was empty' and
'sprintf(): too few arguments' reports. Everything seems to work fine
though.
Looking at the ?q=about page, I see that the following query is
executed twice _and_ that each time, it take more than 2 seconds to
complete:
SELECT n.nid, n.title, b.parent, b.weight FROM node n INNER JOIN book b
ON n.vid = b.vid WHERE n.status = 1 AND n.moderate = 0 ORDER BY
b.weight, n.title;
--8 SHOW INDEX FROM book;
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
| Table | Non_unique | Key_name | Seq_in_index | Column_name |
Collation | Cardinality | Sub_part | Packed | Null | Index_type |
Comment |
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
| book | 1 | book_parent | 1 | parent | A
| 92 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | |
| book | 1 | nid | 1 | nid | A
| 369 | NULL | NULL | | BTREE | |
+-------+------------+-------------+--------------+-------------+-----------+-------------+----------+--------+------+------------+---------+
2 rows in set (0.00 sec)
The book module does not appear to have a primary key? Sounds like a
bad idea so I added one:
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD PRIMARY KEY nid (nid);
Query OK, 369 rows affected (0.02 sec)
Records: 369 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
Next, I wanted to make the vid column a unique key in all node tables:
mysql> ALTER TABLE node ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 20392 rows affected (0.81 sec)
Records: 20392 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
ERROR 1062: Duplicate entry '0' for key 2
mysql> ALTER TABLE forum ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 10806 rows affected (0.10 sec)
Records: 10806 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
As you can see, it fails for the book table which makes me believe
there is some inconsistent data ... I set out to fix that:
mysql> SELECT nid, COUNT(nid) AS vids FROM book GROUP BY vid HAVING
vids > 1;
+-----+------+
| nid | vids |
+-----+------+
| 871 | 2 |
+-----+------+
1 row in set (0.00 sec)
mysql> SELECT title FROM node WHERE nid = 871;
Empty set (0.00 sec)
mysql> DELETE FROM book WHERE nid = 871;
Query OK, 1 row affected (0.00 sec)
mysql> ALTER TABLE book ADD UNIQUE vid (vid);
Query OK, 368 rows affected (0.01 sec)
Records: 368 Duplicates: 0 Warnings: 0
Looks like everything is well now. Ran some new benchmarks:
Before upgrade After upgrade With
indices
?q= (main page) 218 ms/request 340 ms/request 336
ms/request
?q=forum (forum overview) 754 ms/request 1520 ms/request 1531
ms/request
?q=about (book page) 375 ms/request 5400 ms/request 475
ms/request
Unfortunately, we're still slower than the original code.
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Wed, 18 May 2005 21:53:31 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Dries, thanks for testing it again.
I do think the broken queries you observer have something to do with
the bad performance after the update. Please log the queries any I will
have a look at them. I've never seen any such queries.
My update script also tries to create the appropriate indices, but it
will of course fail if the database contains cruft. the indices for the
forum are probably missing, too.
I am still convinced that the patch is core worthy.
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Thu, 19 May 2005 04:36:09 +0000 : Dries
It wouldn't hurt if more people would benchmark this patch. The patch's
current performance worries me.
Did you check your watchdog messages after upgrading the drupal.org
database? Depending on your settings, errors might only be shown in
the watchdog. I'll look into the remaining glitches as time permits.
Thanks for your persistence in keeping this patch up-to-date. :)
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Thu, 19 May 2005 11:59:22 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Dries: Can you please let me have your updated database? I want to have
a look at it and try my own benchmarks with it.
And yes, if I did learn something on this project is how to be
persistant. ;)
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 16:25:34 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Here is an idea that occurred to me:
The problem with the upgrade process is that keeping the existing
revisions requires a lot of work to do. This generates a huge amount of
sql queries for a large database and also requires a huge amount of
memory.
My suggestions is to let update.php only handle the basic upgrade, ie
without old revisions. An additional module could be created that would
implement a cron based approach to upgrading old revisions one node at a
time. it could expose a hook to let contrib modules do their own
upgrades.
Dries, what do you think? (I am writing "Dries" because he seems to be
the only one who is interested in getting this into core...)
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Fri, 24 Jun 2005 22:25:11 +0000 : Junyor
Killes:
I'm also interested in seeing this hit core. What about adding
something to legacy.module to do it?
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Sun, 26 Jun 2005 21:14:54 +0000 : chx
This is a sensible approach. Maybe this is the _only_ sensible approach.
I have a little problem though: while the conversion is running somehow
both revision handlers should be available.
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Sun, 26 Jun 2005 22:16:21 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
hehe, one only has to whine and bug enough and one gets some feedback.
;)
@junyor: legacy.module would be a good place. my current idea is to
auto-enable it in update.php and then disable it again in legacy_cron
after all nodes are updated.. ;)
@chx: When somebody wants to look at revisions of a node that node
could be auto-updated.
The only problem are contrib modules: they's need to have some hook in
order to update their own data. When somebody looks at the revisions of
a node than cannot be updated because the contrib module in question has
no such hook, we can optionally let the user discard old revisions I
guess.
Dries, what do you think?
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:48:51 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_30.patch (53.13 KB)
Sooooo; I've updated this patch once again.
Dries didn't like my idea of legacy updates so we will have an option
to discard old revisions in case the update should prove difficult.
Always keep a backup.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:31:12 +0000 : Bèr Kessels
can we please accept and commit this patch? We can iron out any issues
later. This patch is just far too big and complex to be
perfect-at-once.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:22:50 +0000 : Dries
@Ber: no, we can't commit this patch blindly.
Data loss is a much bigger problem than a syntax error or other code
glitch. We can break Drupal but we can't break their data.
I've spent quite a bit of time testing the previous version of this
patch and noticed significant performance degradation.
Tell me, Ber, why can't you test this patch first?
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:40:37 +0000 : Bèr Kessels
I was not referring to not testing it. If it is just the upgrade path
that proves to be cumbersome, then why can we not fix it afterwards,
I.e. when everyone has had a good chance to look at it.
Testing such a huge patch requires a lot of work. something no-one just
does in his spare hours. We had discussions before to deal in a slightly
different way with big changes; to commit them quicker and to leave the
ironing out of any left overs for the community. I hooked into that
discussion here. For two reasons. One is that Gerhard has spent
numerous hours on maintaining this patch. The other one is that the
community can be of help with ironing out issues in such a large
change, much better than that Gerhard can do on his own.
And yes, dataloss is very bad, but no-one should loose data, when
he/she followed the instructions (backing up)...
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:00:38 +0000 : Dries
Ber: applying this patch takes 15 seconds. Whether I apply this patch
for you, or whether you apply it yourself, it will hardly reduce the
'testing cost'. The problem is that data loss can be subtle; it might
go unnoticed for a couple days. Make no mistake, I'd like to see this
patch committed ASAP, but it warrants some testing. Let's
test/benchmark it and commit it.
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Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:55:03 +0000 : drumm
The upgrade script already takes a long time to execute and does not
provide feedback to the user about how it is doing. I plan on making
the upgrade script able to spread the updates across multiple page
views and give user feedback showing that progress is being made. This
will hopefully make the speed of this update a moot point.
I am working on this for my dayjob, CivicSpace, so it should get done
"real soon now", but it should be expected to take awhile (smallish
number of weeks). Please make comprimises if necessary.
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Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:38:57 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_31.patch (48.78 KB)
@drumm: the timeout isn't usually the problem. Memory consumption is.
I'll look into doing the updates in chunks of 1000 nodes or so.
Clousseau found a bug in the patch, updated.
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:28:08 +0000 : moshe weitzman
Even if the upgrade issues are resolved, we have to figure out why this
patch is slowing down drupal (according to benchmarks posted here).
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 07:51:45 +0000 : Dries
We can't proceed without some additional benchmarking. I already
benchmarked it on two machines (see comments above), and I'll benchmark
it again after August 10. The performance impact of this patch worries
me so if two other people could test and benchmark this patch
extensively, that would come a long way. August 10 is close to the
code freeze so some help is necessary.
If Gerhard/killes reviewed/tested one of your patches, it is time to
return the favor ...
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 15:40:31 +0000 : Jose A Reyero
After looking at the patch I'm not really surprised this slows down
everything. I thought that the reason why we wanted revisions in their
own table was in the first place to have a simpler -and faster- node
table. But this patch:
- Adds fields and complexity not only to the node table but also to all
the main tables for data
- Needs additional joins just to retrieve single nodes (which is done
many times for a typical main page)
- Does away with encapsulation of the revision functionality requiring
other modules to handle revissions related data.
So please, please, please:
- Make revisions table only needed when actually using revisions
- Keep that old nice thing of hiding revisions system from other
modules
- And what's so bad with serializing data anyway? I agree that usually
there are better ways to store data. But this is one of the cases where
serialization does make sense. Not the current huge serialized field,
but only a new table with one serialized node per row.
- In general, do it much simpler. This is way too complex and it
removes more functionality than it adds.
In just four words: keep it simple, please.
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 21:25:26 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/revisions_32.patch (51.27 KB)
Patch updated (v31 was buggy, and there was an update to updates.inc).
I've had a discussion with Jose and he will maybe do some testing over
the weekend. John is also doing some testing as we speak.
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Component: theme system
Category: bug reports
Priority: normal
Assigned to: robertDouglass
Reported by: robertDouglass
Updated by: robertDouglass
Status: patch
This patch alphabetizes the variables in several arrays that get passed
to tpl.php files. This makes it easier to find variables when scanning
the code, and since documentation is also written based on the code, it
makes the documentation likely to also be in alphabetical order.
Note that this patch includes the cumulative fixes from these issues:
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http://drupal.org/node/27791
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Component: theme system
Category: bug reports
Priority: normal
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: robertDouglass
Updated by: robertDouglass
Status: patch
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/phptemplate_redundant_var_patch.txt (815 bytes)
The $site variable is made redundant by $site_name, and is not used.
robertDouglass
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Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: contact.module
Category: tasks
Priority: normal
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: Tobias Maier
Updated by: Dries
Status: patch
- You need to provide an update for updates.inc too.
- You need to provide an update for database.pgsql.
- Please drop the filter stuff for now.
- Please don't capitalize the words category and subject in +
form_set_error('subject', t('You must enter a Subject.')); and +
form_set_error('category', t('You must select a valid Category.'));.
- If there is only one category, we probably don't need a hidden
category either?
Dries
Previous comments:
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Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:00:09 +0000 : Tobias Maier
The contact.module of the Drupal HEAD does now nearly the same as the
feedback.module.
kbahey [1] and I talked about to bring them together.
To have just one module.
a) Here comes a list of features which you can find in feedback.module
and which are currently missing in contacts.module
* add the following fields to contacts.module:
* Postal Address
* Phone Number
* A real "Message Subject" (You say "What?? we have one!" - this one is
used in the false way. Be patient i'll tell you later what i mean)
* make it configurable if these fields are shown on the /Sites
Contact-Page/ and/or on the /Users Contact-Page/
* Make it configurable which field is required and which one not
* The Subject field is currently used to select on which
team/department the message belongs to.
this field should be renamed to /topic/category/department/ (just one
of them / maybe let the user decide)
and a Subject field with the default behavour should be introduced.
* let the "Additional information:"-field be formatted. So add
form_format()
* Feedback has a feature "Log all feedback attempts to watchdog"
* it also allows you to add an special "Subject Prefix:" to the e-mail
which will be sent.
* and to customize the Message which will be shown after the user
pressed submit. ("Result Message - Success". "Result Message -
Failure")
(personally i think this is not really needed)
* it also allows you to define a "Navigation link text" and a "Feedback
Page Header" - but the most users (including me) were a little bit
confused about what that means
(personally i think this is not really needed)
b) here comes my list what i want to see beside the things mentioned
above in contact.module:
* why does contact have two places to configure it (/admin/contact/ and
/admin/settings/contact/)
i think they should be merged into one. So that it is easier for the
User to get into this.
* Help texts, everywhere :D
* a new permission:"Let me use all Users Contact page" - allow specific
Roles to contact the User through the Contact-Page, also if he
deactivated it
Please tell me what you think about it and if you have other ideas.
I want to start to merge the feedback module into the contact module
soon
Yours sincerely
Tobias Maier
[1] http://drupal.org/user/4063
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:40:21 +0000 : Tobias Maier
i forgot to mention that it also sends the referrer in the E-Mail
what I also want to include
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:30:36 +0000 : lennart
Hi Tobias,
I am currently using both feedback.module and contact.module, so for me
a merging would generally make sense.
I agree with most of your ideas /except/; I do not think " the Message
which will be shown after the user pressed submit. ("Result Message -
Success". "Result Message - Failure") " is not needed.
I think this should stay.
It gives comfort and certainty to the user to know that the mail has
been sent succesfully
Regards
Lennart
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:48:13 +0000 : Tobias Maier
i think also that this messages should stay there, but I think they
don't have to be customizable, like in Feedback.
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:03:54 +0000 : kbahey
Tobias,
Thanks for the comparison.
As the author of Feedback, I see a lot of overlap between contact and
feedback. I would like to see them merged, and become part of core.
contact is a good base to build on, and has some extra features (most
importantly the ability to contact a specific user, as well as list
different topic/category and route the message accordingly (think of
sales, support, marketing, ..etc or complaint, comment, request,
...etc.)
Add to all that one feature present to neither: a checkbox to send a
copy of the email to the originator for filing.
If both merge and add the above feature, I will be very happy, and
feedback can then rest in peace starting from 4.7.
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:32:58 +0000 : Tobias Maier
here are the first patches regarding this:
* [bugfix] if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets shown [2]
* [bugfix/new feature] hide subject if there is just one [3]
* [new feature] input format for contact.module [4]
* [bugfix] Side-wide contact form: doesn't save entered text on input
error reload [5]
please test them all and integrate them all as fast as possible,
because i want to develop the next steps on top of them
Thanks
[2] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[3] http://drupal.org/node/27822
[4] http://drupal.org/node/27824
[5] http://drupal.org/node/27139
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:30:40 +0000 : Tobias Maier
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact.module_1.patch (10.38 KB)
and here comes the first all-in-one patch:
please try it, and tell me if it works for you:
This is just the first step to solve the list above so there come much
more enhancements later...
Changelog:
* Includes bugfix: if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets
shown [6]
* includes bugfix: if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets
shown [7]
* includes bugfix: Side-wide contact form: doesn't save entered text on
input error reload [8]
* renamed subject to category
* added a real Subject-field
* includes input format for contact.module [9]
* includes hide subject if there is just one [10]
* changes in contact-table (just MYSQL)
* subject renamed to category
* category is now PRIMARY KEY
[6] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[7] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[8] http://drupal.org/node/27139
[9] http://drupal.org/node/27824
[10] http://drupal.org/node/27822
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:31:33 +0000 : Tobias Maier
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/database.mysql_5.patch (720 bytes)
the patch for the mysql-table
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:26:00 +0000 : Tobias Maier
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact.module_2.patch (11.02 KB)
contact.module updated again
-->now it runs :D
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Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: base system
Category: bug reports
Priority: critical
Assigned to: killes(a)www.drop.org
Reported by: bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Updated by: bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Status: patch
people who expierenced this problem, please try the patch of killes and
report here if successful or not. i will patch as well
bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Previous comments:
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:22:55 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
hi
this weekend I went ahead and upgraded drupal from 4.4 to 4.5 on a
machine, I dint have time/priority (in Dutch these words are almost the
same :-) sooner.
The core went fine and as usual lots of unpacking, configuring for all
the modules I want to experiment with. After some time I tried to
access the site in a -just-to-be-sure- moment from windows machine with
an IE browser without being logged in. I found some strange behavior.
Sometimes IE wanted to download the file, sometimes it showed the file
(being a binary) and sometimes I got a valid page. I never got this
from my firefox on both windows and Linux while being logged in. Later
I could reproduce this on a firefox browser without being logged in.
After some time / thinking I think I found out that both apache (my
webserver) and drupal were compressing (gzipping) the page resulting in
a browser that was able to uncompress the page once. But if it was a
cached page and drupal was zipping this and Apache as well, the browser
was just displaying a gzipped page.
I have a rather old setup with an ancient version of apache but does
this sound possible? Since I am hosting (some) other content outside
the drupal dir, I would like to keep apache gzipping pages so is there
an option to stop drupal from compressing pages?
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:32:16 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Which method use your Apache to gzip the pages? Which version is it?
I find it strange that we get this report only several weeks after the
release. I suspect that your particualr set up is borken.
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 16:45:23 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
The reason I waited so long was that I wanted others to find out this
:-) Mind you, I *think* it is the fact that they are both compressing
the cached pages. You might want to try it out for yourself by going to
http://willy.boerland.com/myblog and in case a there is a cached page
you will end up by downloading a binary that once renamed to a gz and
unpacked, will give you the html file.
drupal 4.5
apache: 1.3.26 (with *all* security patches)
php: 4.2.3
Content-Encoding: gzip
And yes, since I quess 100+ sites are already at 4.5 I think it is
related to my setup. However, I understand correctly there i no way of
having drupal stop sending out compressed pages? There is no
configuration option?
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:06:05 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Yes, I get funny garbage, too.
The apache version you run is the one Debian provides. It is still used
very often, but still nobody but you seems to experience the problem, so
I still think that somehow your setup is broken. Apache should recognize
that the page is already gzipped. Do you use mod_gzip or libz?
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:57:14 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Since this one is more or less critical for me but not for the RotW,
re-setting priority to "nomal". I am using zlib btw. Did you try to
save the file and unzip it? And I am correct that there is no option to
disable cached paged from being zipped?
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:30:23 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
I think I "solved" this for me by changing the bootstrap.inc
setting this to postponed, if no-one else experiences this problem
within 3 weeks I will close this issue.
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:31:19 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
I tried to download it now, but you must have changed something, the
page renders fine.
You are right, there is no option to disable gzipped cache. I'd really
like to discover the reason for this problem. Normally, zlib should
check for gzipped content and do not gzip it again. Drupal sends the
appropriate header.
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Sat, 20 Nov 2004 18:32:25 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Locking could have prevented this. ;)
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Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:36:23 +0000 : axel(a)drupal.ru
> I found some strange behavior. Sometimes IE wanted to download the
file, sometimes it showed the file (being a binary) and sometimes I got
a valid page.
Sometimes I got same thing in Mozilla Firefox with differrent sites
(not sure, but not only with Drupal) when I work trough my local
proxies (I use chain of two proxies on my Debian box - one for banner
deleting (privoxy) and second for offline page caching (wwwoffle)). I
don't dig to details of such behaviour, but simply switch off proxies
and reload browser's page help to solve problem - then I again switch
on proxies and page loaded ok.
May be you also access site through proxy? Then you need to check this
proxy settings, I think.
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Sun, 21 Nov 2004 21:13:26 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Axel,
no it was not related to proxys or even the browser. It was related to
cached pages being zipped by drupal and sent to apache that was ziping
the page as well, resulting in a zipped zipped page for the client that
only once unzipped the page and hence displayed a binary
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Tue, 21 Dec 2004 17:10:12 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
It seems like I was not the only one [1]. There is not enough
information about the others setup (/please post here!/) to find a
generic cause, but it is sure that some setups will cause zipped pages
to be zipped.
[1] http://drupal.org/node/14569
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Thu, 03 Feb 2005 15:03:17 +0000 : leafish_dylan
Has anybody found a better way to fix this problem? Disabling the
storage of compressed cache pages in bootstrap.inc works, but it's
ugly.
Is an uncompressed cache likely to take up a lot of space in the
database? If not, perhaps a global "gzip/zlib compression" option for
Drupal would be simpler.
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 14:40:16 +0000 : Anonymous
As author of the gzipped cache patch I'd really appreciate if the people
who experience this problem could supply detailed(!) info on their setup
and the headers sent both by the browser and the server. I'd like to fix
the problem (if there is one on Drupal's side) or at least document
correct server settings if the problem is there.
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Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:54:42 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
Here some info, please ask if you need more:
apache 1.3.26
mmcache (version unknown)
drupal 4.5.1
Note: I didnt post (and thought abaout!) the MMcache between drupal
and apache.
The configuration of mmcache is
extension="mmcache.so"
mmcache.shm_size="16"
mmcache.cache_dir="/tmp/mmcache"
mmcache.enable="1"
mmcache.optimizer="1"
mmcache.check_mtime="1"
mmcache.debug="0"
mmcache.filter=""
mmcache.shm_max="0"
mmcache.shm_ttl="0"
mmcache.shm_prune_period="0"
mmcache.shm_only="0"
mmcache.compress="1"
headers:
http://willy.boerland.com/myblog/
GET /myblog/ HTTP/1.1
Host: willy.boerland.com
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.5)
Gecko/20041107 Firefox/1.0
Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: en-us,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Cookie: PHPSESSID=307f07c169e3bbcbe92d150026c97583
HTTP/1.x 200 OK
Date: Sat, 05 Feb 2005 16:45:49 GMT
Server: Apache-AdvancedExtranetServer/1.3.26
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.2.3
Content-Encoding: gzip
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
----------------------------------------------------------
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Mon, 21 Feb 2005 10:53:02 +0000 : coma
I have exactly the same problem my setup it's currently apache 2.0.52,
php 4.3.10 and drupal 4.5.2.
The relevant info it's:
from apache:
<Location />
# Insert filter
SetOutputFilter DEFLATE
# Netscape 4.x has some problems...
BrowserMatch ^Mozilla/4 gzip-only-text/html
# Netscape 4.06-4.08 have some more problems
BrowserMatch ^Mozilla/4\.0[678] no-gzip
# MSIE masquerades as Netscape, but it is fine
BrowserMatch \bMSIE !no-gzip !gzip-only-text/html
# Don't compress images
SetEnvIfNoCase Request_URI \
\.(?:gif|jpe?g|png)$ no-gzip dont-vary
# Make sure proxies don't deliver the wrong content
Header append Vary User-Agent env=!dont-vary
</Location>
In php.ini:
zlib.output_compression = On
And I can assure you that my problem was that last element, changing
zlib.output_compression to off solved the problem, and the output of
all php scripts (not only drupal) it's compressed by either drupal or
apache.
You can test this things with wget:
wget --header "Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate" http://localhost/
The file wget drops should be a gzippped html, if you do a zcat and get
a plain html it's all good, if you get another gzipped file it has been
double compressed.
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Sat, 02 Apr 2005 19:38:42 +0000 : moshe weitzman
i too am seeing strange behavior here. specifically, php is simply
dieing after printing out the $cache->data in drupal_page_header().
truly, i don't think drupal should be storing gzipped cache, nor do i
think it should perform gzip at all. these are better handled at php or
apache layers.
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Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:06:14 +0000 : mjr
Apparently i am observing a new variant of that problem in one of the
subsites of my 4.6 test installation: after enebaling cacheing, lynx,
w3m and the gecko based browsers display garbage. lynx tells me it
wants to load a file named index.html.gz.
wget http://beate/drupal46/ on that site gives a readable html page.
w3m -dump_head tells me:
Received cookie: PHPSESSID=a6916d57d08727ab8ed945ddac4ecf2c
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:56:19 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.53 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.10-10 mod_ssl/2.0.53
OpenSSL/0.9.7e mod_perl/1.999.20 Perl/v5.8.4
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.10-10
Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=a6916d57d08727ab8ed945ddac4ecf2c; expires=Mon, 16
May 2005 17:29:39 GMT; path=/
Expires: Sun, 19 Nov 1978 05:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Sat, 23 Apr 2005 13:56:19 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate
Cache-Control: post-check=0, pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Content-Encoding: gzip
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Connection: close
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Apparently, the site sends uncompressed pages but tells the browser it
is compressed.
BTW, links2 and dillo do disply the page but will not allow me to log
in and disable cacheing.
Any clues?
Thanks
Michael
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Sat, 23 Apr 2005 14:08:42 +0000 : mjr
Perhaps I should mention that
zlib.output_compression = Off
in my php.ini
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Sat, 23 Apr 2005 18:43:30 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
/Apparently i am observing a new variant of that problem /
Please open a new bug report, since your problem is likely unrelated to
this problem, open an new problem and you might want to use a link to
this problem, but dont use this problem for other than descibed.
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Sat, 04 Jun 2005 23:53:22 +0000 : mjr
no, it is not unrelated. After some investigation, i found out that the
garbage is being stored in drupals cache. This has been reported in
this thread.
My present workaround is to completly disable drupals caching (and to
manually delete the compressed pages from the database.)
Whats the use of letting drupal compress pages and store these int its
cache table? Just saving a few cycles of CPU time? On the cost of
letting the web server and its client decide wether to transfer
compressed or uncompressed data - they have the protocol to do that,
drupal has not.
Michael
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Mon, 06 Jun 2005 16:48:30 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
We save cpu cycles and storage space. Apache only needs to check the
Encoding header which will be easy. I do not know why zlib output
compression doesn't check those headers for some (or all?) people.
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Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:32:40 +0000 : bluec
I have the same problem with Drupal 4.6.1: If the site delivers a cached
page it is gziped twice and the result is garbage in my browser window.
I tried two differnet browsers: Firefox and Opera and it's the same
problem with both of them.
I recorded the HTTP headers:
- Cache turned on
- zlib-compression turned on
- Result: Garbage
http://kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003/index.html
GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
Host: kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8)
Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4
Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: de-de,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003/fachschaft/
Cookie: PHPSESSID=6ddbf3d5a32d-CHANGED-BY-CHRIS
HTTP/1.x 200 OK
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:16:08 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Gentoo/Linux) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
PHP/5.0.4
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.0.4
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:11:59 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0,
pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=6ddbf3d5a32d20-CHANGED-BY-CHRIS; expires=Mon, 04
Jul 2005 02:49:28 GMT; path=/
Etag: "03cff5fcc105e72dfc2671d3ffdb285c"
Content-Encoding: gzip
Content-Length: 5024
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=95
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Now I turned off compression by setting in my .htaccess
php_flag zlib.output_compression On
and the result is OK:
http://kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003/index.html
GET /index.html HTTP/1.1
Host: kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8)
Gecko/20050511 Firefox/1.0.4
Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: de-de,en;q=0.5
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://kim.sshtun.v63.org:22003/index.html
Cookie: PHPSESSID=6ddbf3d5a32d20-CHANGED-BY-CHRIS
HTTP/1.x 200 OK
Date: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:17:08 GMT
Server: Apache/2.0.54 (Gentoo/Linux) mod_ssl/2.0.54 OpenSSL/0.9.7e
PHP/5.0.4
X-Powered-By: PHP/5.0.4
Expires: Mon, 26 Jul 1997 05:00:00 GMT
Last-Modified: Fri, 10 Jun 2005 23:11:59 GMT
Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0,
pre-check=0
Pragma: no-cache
Set-Cookie: PHPSESSID=6ddbf3d5a32d208-CHANGED-BY-CHRIS; expires=Mon, 04
Jul 2005 02:50:28 GMT; path=/
Etag: "03cff5fcc105e72dfc2671d3ffdb285c"
Content-Encoding: gzip
Vary: Accept-Encoding
Content-Length: 5054
Keep-Alive: timeout=15, max=100
Connection: Keep-Alive
Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
Turning off the cache is a solution as well. As soon as cache and zlib
are operating the result is garbage.
If you need any other information just let me know. I can turn on
compression at any time and test other solutions.
Chris
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Mon, 27 Jun 2005 18:10:12 +0000 : aries
The same. Interesting, only one page doing this, all others are not.
--
Aries
http://aries.mindworks.hu
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Thu, 07 Jul 2005 14:46:34 +0000 : fago
quite strange.
i never had problems with this, then i upgraded from 4.6.1 to drupal
4.6.2... now i must turn off the cache, or i've the troubles mentioned
here... (i haven't touched the apache or php config in the meanwhile)
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Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:47:32 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
yet another one [2], closed than one, raised importance here.
[2] http://drupal.org/node/25326
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Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:52:26 +0000 : bertboerland(a)www.drop.org
killes sigested that is want apache that compressed the page but drupal
and php was the first one. after some testing, i found out he was
correct!
to solve this
1) either comment out the gzip lines in bootstrap.inc
2) put /etc/php.ini "zlib.output_compression = On" to OFF
(real) Fix needed. Drupal should look if the page was zipped in the
first place....
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 12:17:46 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/gzip.patch (2.45 KB)
Here's a patch that needs some testing.
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 13:18:51 +0000 : Dries
Why do we set $do_cache to TRUE in the nested if's? $do_cache is
already set to TRUE higher up so we're just overwriting TRUE with TRUE?
Also, can we rename $do_cache to $cache? That is more Drupal-ish.
Does that solve all apache-Drupal-caching problems or only some? I
vaguely remember we agreed to add a setting, because that was perceived
the only True Solution.
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Fri, 29 Jul 2005 18:22:04 +0000 : killes(a)www.drop.org
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/gzip_0.patch (2.46 KB)
I've updated the patch.
The patch is intended to cure all the problems we had. It needs
testing, though.
I don't recall to agreeing that a setting would be needed.
Just for the record: Steven measured the ratio of serving gzipped
cached pages to re-unzipped pages on drupal.org to be about 5.1:1. That
is from 6 page requests which we serve from the cache only one needs the
cache to be unzipped. This is probably due to crawlers who only speak
http 1.0.
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http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/27822
Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: contact.module
Category: feature requests
Priority: minor
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: Tobias Maier
Updated by: Tobias Maier
Status: patch
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact_nochoise.patch (1.18 KB)
if you have just one Subject the Subject field is not shown because you
have no choice to select another subject.
it is also possible to show its name.
but this patch hides it
hope you like it
Tobias Maier
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Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: contact.module
Category: feature requests
Priority: normal
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: Tobias Maier
Updated by: Tobias Maier
Status: patch
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact.module_0.patch (1.93 KB)
now you can choose an input format for the Additional information
comments are welcome :D
this is one part of http://drupal.org/node/27633
Tobias Maier
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30 Jul '05
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http://drupal.org/node/27757
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http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/27757
Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: contact.module
Category: bug reports
Priority: normal
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: Tobias Maier
Updated by: Tobias Maier
Status: patch
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact_notconfigured.patch (794 bytes)
the function function contact_mail_page()
wants to check if the contact module is configured or not
but this doesnt work
here comes the patch
yours sincerely
Tobias Maier
btw. i want to ask you to tell me your notions about
merging feedback into contact [1]
[1] http://drupal.org/node/27633
Tobias Maier
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30 Jul '05
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Project: Drupal
Version: cvs
Component: contact.module
Category: tasks
Priority: normal
Assigned to: Anonymous
Reported by: Tobias Maier
Updated by: Tobias Maier
-Status: active
+Status: patch
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact.module_2.patch (11.02 KB)
contact.module updated again
-->now it runs :D
Tobias Maier
Previous comments:
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Wed, 27 Jul 2005 23:00:09 +0000 : Tobias Maier
The contact.module of the Drupal HEAD does now nearly the same as the
feedback.module.
kbahey [1] and I talked about to bring them together.
To have just one module.
a) Here comes a list of features which you can find in feedback.module
and which are currently missing in contacts.module
* add the following fields to contacts.module:
* Postal Address
* Phone Number
* A real "Message Subject" (You say "What?? we have one!" - this one is
used in the false way. Be patient i'll tell you later what i mean)
* make it configurable if these fields are shown on the /Sites
Contact-Page/ and/or on the /Users Contact-Page/
* Make it configurable which field is required and which one not
* The Subject field is currently used to select on which
team/department the message belongs to.
this field should be renamed to /topic/category/department/ (just one
of them / maybe let the user decide)
and a Subject field with the default behavour should be introduced.
* let the "Additional information:"-field be formatted. So add
form_format()
* Feedback has a feature "Log all feedback attempts to watchdog"
* it also allows you to add an special "Subject Prefix:" to the e-mail
which will be sent.
* and to customize the Message which will be shown after the user
pressed submit. ("Result Message - Success". "Result Message -
Failure")
(personally i think this is not really needed)
* it also allows you to define a "Navigation link text" and a "Feedback
Page Header" - but the most users (including me) were a little bit
confused about what that means
(personally i think this is not really needed)
b) here comes my list what i want to see beside the things mentioned
above in contact.module:
* why does contact have two places to configure it (/admin/contact/ and
/admin/settings/contact/)
i think they should be merged into one. So that it is easier for the
User to get into this.
* Help texts, everywhere :D
* a new permission:"Let me use all Users Contact page" - allow specific
Roles to contact the User through the Contact-Page, also if he
deactivated it
Please tell me what you think about it and if you have other ideas.
I want to start to merge the feedback module into the contact module
soon
Yours sincerely
Tobias Maier
[1] http://drupal.org/user/4063
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 08:40:21 +0000 : Tobias Maier
i forgot to mention that it also sends the referrer in the E-Mail
what I also want to include
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:30:36 +0000 : lennart
Hi Tobias,
I am currently using both feedback.module and contact.module, so for me
a merging would generally make sense.
I agree with most of your ideas /except/; I do not think " the Message
which will be shown after the user pressed submit. ("Result Message -
Success". "Result Message - Failure") " is not needed.
I think this should stay.
It gives comfort and certainty to the user to know that the mail has
been sent succesfully
Regards
Lennart
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:48:13 +0000 : Tobias Maier
i think also that this messages should stay there, but I think they
don't have to be customizable, like in Feedback.
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Thu, 28 Jul 2005 13:03:54 +0000 : kbahey
Tobias,
Thanks for the comparison.
As the author of Feedback, I see a lot of overlap between contact and
feedback. I would like to see them merged, and become part of core.
contact is a good base to build on, and has some extra features (most
importantly the ability to contact a specific user, as well as list
different topic/category and route the message accordingly (think of
sales, support, marketing, ..etc or complaint, comment, request,
...etc.)
Add to all that one feature present to neither: a checkbox to send a
copy of the email to the originator for filing.
If both merge and add the above feature, I will be very happy, and
feedback can then rest in peace starting from 4.7.
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 02:32:58 +0000 : Tobias Maier
here are the first patches regarding this:
* [bugfix] if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets shown [2]
* [bugfix/new feature] hide subject if there is just one [3]
* [new feature] input format for contact.module [4]
* [bugfix] Side-wide contact form: doesn't save entered text on input
error reload [5]
please test them all and integrate them all as fast as possible,
because i want to develop the next steps on top of them
Thanks
[2] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[3] http://drupal.org/node/27822
[4] http://drupal.org/node/27824
[5] http://drupal.org/node/27139
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:30:40 +0000 : Tobias Maier
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/contact.module_1.patch (10.38 KB)
and here comes the first all-in-one patch:
please try it, and tell me if it works for you:
This is just the first step to solve the list above so there come much
more enhancements later...
Changelog:
* Includes bugfix: if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets
shown [6]
* includes bugfix: if contact.module is unconfigured the form gets
shown [7]
* includes bugfix: Side-wide contact form: doesn't save entered text on
input error reload [8]
* renamed subject to category
* added a real Subject-field
* includes input format for contact.module [9]
* includes hide subject if there is just one [10]
* changes in contact-table (just MYSQL)
* subject renamed to category
* category is now PRIMARY KEY
[6] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[7] http://drupal.org/node/27757
[8] http://drupal.org/node/27139
[9] http://drupal.org/node/27824
[10] http://drupal.org/node/27822
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Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:31:33 +0000 : Tobias Maier
Attachment: http://drupal.org/files/issues/database.mysql_5.patch (720 bytes)
the patch for the mysql-table
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