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DrupalCON: attendees
by Dries Buytaert 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Hello, to register for DrupalCON you need to check a checkbox in your user profile. If you haven't, make sure to do it now. If you're going to attend, you should be listed on this page: http://drupalcon.org/attendees -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

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soc: collaborative editor - request for tests and comments
by Vladimir Zlatanov 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Hi all, Ernest has done a lot of experiments with his collaborative editor soc project: http://drupal.org/project/collaborative_editor http://groups.drupal.org/soc-collaborative-editor Can I ask you to have a go at testing it: http://groups.drupal.org/node/1216 It is being actively developed at the moment so expect bugs, but your opinion matters a lot. on groups he has posted descriptions of the internals. At the moment the editor is at the stage of turning this into an api - both javascript and serverside. The intent is in the long term to be able to apply this for most drupal forms with little work. Thanks in advance, Vlado

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Re: FLOSS 12: Rasmus Lerdorf
by Ken Rickard 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

See also Rasmus' talk at OSCon Portland July 2006. He covers PHP scalability testing. http://talks.php.net/show/oscon06 He walks through code testing and optimization techniques. - Ken Rickard agentrickard

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17 Aug '06

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RE: [development] CVS HEAD, code freeze, zeitgeist
by Metzler, David 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Thanks Dries, I've had my CVS account for only a week now ;), so I hope you'll endulge me with a quick question. Is there a summary somewhere about the scope of the changes required to update contributed modules with the new revision? It might help the discussion.... You raise an excellent point about many of us still scrambling to update contributions for 4.7 compatibility. I'm taking my 4.7 sites live on Monday :). David Metzler -----Original Message----- From: development-bounces(a)drupal.org [mailto:development-bounces@drupal.org] On Behalf Of Dries Buytaert Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2006 1:46 PM To: development(a)drupal.org Subject: [development] CVS HEAD, code freeze, zeitgeist Hello world, I wanted to point out that the code freeze starts less than two weeks from now. Since Drupal 4.7 was released, we added a fair number of features to the development version of Drupal. Enough features to justify making a release. It will be a very exciting release, even, with features like the installer, the foundation for custom content types and various usability improvements including improved administration pages! Thanks to the great work of many people, we hit quite a few milestones. :) Before we move on to discuss whether this release should be called 4.8 or 5.0 (let's save that discussion for _after_ the code freeze when all the work is complete!), I wanted to ask if everybody is still happy with the date of the code freeze, and the fact that we're about to transition to a new branch. We're about to freeze core development for several months as we work out the new bugs we've introduced. In addition, module authors will have to upgrade their modules to be compatible with CVS HEAD, and translators will need to update their translations. I sense that most people are ready for all this, but that at least a number of people are still catching up with the Drupal 4.7 madness. Just look at the translation status page (http://drupal.org/ translation-status), for example. Certainly, the translators are behind a little. Given more time, they would likely still be behind. Note that I'm not suggesting that we postpone the code freeze. Rather, I figured it wouldn't hurt to share our thoughts about the code freeze and all the work we have done so far. I know this could be a long discussion with a lot of different opinions but -- believe it or not -- ultimately conversations like these add value (as long we're careful enough to stay on topic). If anything, such discussions help us understand each other's goals and problems, and help us to collectively figure out the current Drupal zeitgeist. -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

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Drupal core patches
by Dries Buytaert 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Hello world, here is a list with some important core patches: 1. http://drupal.org/node/76591 -- improve usability of installer. 2. http://drupal.org/node/76785 -- improve user #1 registration. 3. http://drupal.org/node/34505 -- admin/user filter functionality. 4. http://drupal.org/node/63881 + http://drupal.org/node/77875 -- rethink the watchdog logging a bit and make it possible to log to (ii) website/watchdog, (ii) syslog and (iii) /dev/null 5. http://drupal.org/node/75002 -- requirement checking for core 6. http://drupal.org/node/76596 -- continue to investigate seperate template files + make Drupal easier to theme for 7. cck refinements/extensions -- Dries Buytaert :: http://www.buytaert.net/

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Content templating in Drupal?
by Samuel Lampa (Beginner) 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

This is hot stuff, so I make this a new thread (Or trying to...) With just some additional functionality this module could increase the usefulness of Drupal CMS by many factors. Namely the possibility to insert the content from one node into another, in combination with the possibility to pass parameters through the call, also for page content (i.e. using the called-for node as a template.). This exact feature is what makes MediaWiki beat Drupal for some needs (while it still lacks some other indispensable features...). You can read more in detail what I mean in the post by Rolf here: http://drupal.org/node/52816#comment-99961 <http://sv.rilbible.org/wiki/index.php/1_Mos_1> Would this be possible to implement into this module? I think including it into a module of this kind might be a more generic solution also, than packing it together with a wiki module pack. Actually it would be great to see something like this in the core some day? Regards Samuel Lampa, RIL Partner AB, www.rilnet.com Mark Howell wrote: > I wrote the Attached Node module a while back: > http://drupal.org/node/11988 > > It basically uses filters to substitute [node:123] with the contents > of the node. It also has image-specific code (for Drupal 4.5) that > allows for manipulation of the rendering: > > [node:123,res="640x480"] > [node:123,res="original",title="Original version of the picture"] > > A coworker wrote a custom UI in my project to insert the node tag > content from a select list, but others feel comfortable just typing > these tags in directly. > This code has not been touched in 20 months. Feel free to update it > to Drupal 4.6 or 4.7. > > -Mark > > Carl Mc Dade wrote: > >> Yes, I have decided to use an association table and nodeapi. I'm a >> bit hung though because I forgot to ask for a complete business >> model. I am unsure about "whom" is going to be the end user of such a >> capability, bloggers? admin? forum moderators? Or should it be open >> to all and subject to moderation. Once I get these out of the way >> then I will start in. >> >> I appreciate all the input and you can keep it coming. But the one >> thing that is missing in the responses is the main question. >> Frequently after someone tries to make a contribution they are >> stopped because their project is similar or the same as another >> ongoing project. To avoid this collision I thought to ask if anyone >> has a project that is even remotely like this? >> >> >> */Suuch Solutions <drupal(a)suuch.com>/* wrote: >> >> I've done something similar that essentially redirects all >> comments to a non-forum node to an assigned forum node. Yes, it's >> a matter of hook_nodeapi, a table to keep track of associations, >> and hook_link. Post count ( e.g. 1 comment, 2 comments) is already >> handled by the comment.module once you know the associated forum >> topic nid. >> I can send you code snippets if this description is not enough. >> paa.kwesi >> On 12/08/06, *Jeff Eaton* <jeff(a)viapositiva.net >> <mailto:jeff@viapositiva.net>> wrote: >> >> A site I've been working on has almost *exactly* the same >> requirement. It's still in development, so the code doesn't >> exist yet (urgh), but our conclusion was: >> Use nodeapi's insert $op to intercept new blog >> posts. When >> they're saved, programmatically create a forum post with the >> blog post's teaser and a link pointing to the 'full' blog >> entry. In nodapi's 'view' $op, add a link at the bottom of the >> blog post to 'discuss this post' that points to the forum >> topic in question. It would work best when blog posts have >> comments disabled; that way there's only one place to discuss >> a given blog post. The end result is that blog posts point to >> the forum for discussion. It would probably work best if there >> was a dedicated forum category for those types of posts. >> I'm not sure if that's helpful, but it's the flow we >> came up >> with. There's some sample code for programmatically creating >> forum nodes in the 'devel' module's generate-content.php >> script. It handles the proper linking of taxonomies and >> updating of post counts, etc. >> --Jeff >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* Carl Mc Dade [mailto: carl_mcdade(a)yahoo.com >> <mailto:carl_mcdade@yahoo.com>] >> *Sent:* Saturday, August 12, 2006 11:29 AM >> *To:* development(a)drupal.org <mailto:development@drupal.org> >> *Subject:* Re: [development] Nodes content within nodes >> solution developement? >> >> That type of solution is a bit too complicated to set up >> and administrate. >> >> What we are looking at is a integration of two types of >> community user. The blogger and the forum user. A blogger >> consistently writes on topics but may not do so in a way >> that it sparks a forum. They may be just blah blahing. But >> sometimes they may blog on a topic that fits in with a >> Forum category. In this case we would like the user to be >> able to take a blog and insert it inline into the first >> post. This is so that comments and replies land in the >> right venue. Also the blogger or site administrator does >> not have moderate blog comments and replies this is left >> up to the moderators of the Forum. >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > >

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Core scripts cleanup
by Neil Drumm 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

I'd like to remove prefix.sh due to the install system being added. I think code-clean.sh and code-style.pl should be moved over to a directory next to the devel module. -- Neil Drumm http://delocalizedham.com/

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db_rewrite_sql question
by Dave Cohen 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

I wrote a module called cac_lite which provides simple access control for users of the category module. One of the things it does is rewrite sql queries where the $primary_field is 'cid' (category id). Now I've learned of another module (Comment RSS) that also calls db_rewrite_sql with $primary_field 'cid'. But in this case 'cid' stands for comment id. The effect is that cac_lite rewrites a sql query that it shouldn't rewrite. So users can't have commentrss and cac_lite installed together. The underlying problem is that implementers of hook_db_rewrite_sql have no accurate test for what the fully-qualified primary field is. They are passed a $primary_table, but this is usually an alias of the table's real name. For instance, when commentrss calls it, $primary_table is 'c' and not 'comments'. When category calls it, $primary_table is again 'c' and not 'category'. What's a module to do when it recieves two calls to hook_db_rewrite_sql; in both cases $primary_field is 'cid' and $primary_table is 'c', but in one case the query needs re-writing and in the other it does not? -Dave

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Re: InnoDB and accesslog/ watchdog
by Ken Rickard 16 Aug '06

16 Aug '06

Gerhard- >It would also be helpful if anybody could compare the use of InnoDB vs >my patch. Showing my ignorance. Is there a posted standard for Drupal performance testing? The last time I did some tests, I just used apache benchmark (copying something I had seen Killes do previously). Simpletest and the wget method (http://drupal.org/node/11521) don't seem to cover overall performance. - Ken Rickard

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