February 2007 - Development - lists.drupal.org

Bugfix releases for contrib
by Ken Rickard 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

All- As a novice developer, I have an opinion question. How rapidly should bugfixes be released using the Drupal module release system. To be specific, whenever I do a point release, I get new bugs because people upgrade or I get new users. New bugs appear becuase I'm a novice, and I'd prefer not to debate that here. The question is, how quickly should I roll a point release to address those bugs? I've already rolled two point releases this week, and have a third pending. So which is the "better" option: - Quickly release bugfix #3? - Post a patch for existing (known) bugs and note that a new release is forthcoming after XX days of bug checking? (I realize, of course, that the best option is "catch all the bugs before releasing the module," but it's already too late for that.) A follow-up question: Should the consensus answer be added to http://drupal.org/handbook/cvs/releases/types All non-flames appreciated. Offlist is ok. - Ken Rickard agentrickard

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Profile module for D6
by Rowan Kerr 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

The last few projects I've worked on have called for a few enhancements to profile.module, and I was wondering if it would be worth submitting patches for consideration in Drupal 6, or whether profile.module will even survive that long :) The updates to profile module will be useful for supporting OpenID attribute exchange, as well as general data integrity of profile data. And it doesn't break any of the previous functionality. New features: - multiple-select lists (took the easy way out and stored as serialized data could be improved to store the data in normalized tables) - key=>value mapping for select lists - data validation for each field (eg. email, numbers, strings, postal code) - complex data types (eg. address: street, city, state, etc) (this is not as important as the previous ones but may be useful for some people) -Rowan

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Re: [development] Bugfix releases for contrib
by Ken Rickard 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Thanks to all. I especially like Michael's suggestion. > My suggestion to you if to encourage people to test a branch before you > tag it as a release. Much like upstream drupal is done but on a much > smaller scale, etc. Should we add this to module development / cvs best practices in the handbook? I'll write it if the answer is yes. - Ken Rickard agentrickard P.S. -- New release is the answer, since I have a MySQL error confusing people, despite the patch.

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Move "Delete" or "Reset" to tabs?
by Konstantin Käfer 14 Feb '07

14 Feb '07

Hi, currently editing, resetting or deleting an item is done via buttons below the edit page of an item (e.g. node/[]/edit). I ask myself why I have to click on "Edit" to actually delete a node (or a node type, a user, a menu item etc.). Wouldn't it be more straightforward to move these actions to tabs now the menu system is really strong in such things? Konstantin Käfer – http://kkaefer.com/

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Re: [development] No last access?
by Carl Mc Dade 13 Feb '07

13 Feb '07

Chris , You get the same advice that I previously gave. Email me off-list if you have any concerns over things that have nothing to do with Drupal development. Carl Mc Dade ____________________________ Web Developer ----- Original Message ---- From: Chris Johnson <cxjohnson(a)gmail.com> To: development(a)drupal.org Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:23:20 PM Subject: Re: [development] No last access? Carl, you've got a lot of nerve whining about Karoly's calling you out on a public list, when you have no compunction at all against hijacking a "public" open source project's popularity to advertise your business. Hypocrisy devalues everything you write. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited

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Re: [development] No last access?
by Eric Goldhagen 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

At 9:22 AM -0800 2/12/07, Carl Mc Dade wrote: >Put simply (SQL Server english query style) I need to get > >"how long it has been since the user last visited" > >"the time/date of the users last visit" > >made available to a module when the user logs in. by "last visit" do you mean the last time they filled in the form and logged in, or the time they last visited a page? This is an important difference and one that people have asked you to clarify so they can assist. For example my last login to drupal.org was almost 24 hours ago, the last time I visited a page while logged in was about 30 seconds ago. Which do you need available to your function/module? --Eric > >Carl Mc Dade >____________________________ >Web Developer > > > > > >----- Original Message ---- >From: AjK <drupal(a)f2s.com> >To: development(a)drupal.org >Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:10:54 PM >Subject: Re: [development] No last access? > >Carl, > >> Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling >> the old time code before the newer on sets. This is the >> same problem as the access object. As matter of fact the >> login ia updated a split second before the access time. >> >> access = 1171296985 >> login= 1171296984 > >OK, let's go back to basics.... here's your question again: > >> Is there no longer a last access functionality? >> using the global user and calling $user->access >> gives the value after the database has been updated. >> Not the value in the database at the time of login. >> Ex. the value in the database table is 0000002. >> You will not get this value but the value 0000003 >> which is the time of the latest access. > >The ->login is updated when a user logs in. It's updated >just once at the login time. So I'm reading your question >again and, if it's not ->login that you want you'll have >to rephrase your question to make sense. I read your >question as "I want the time the user actually logged in". > >Also, you might avoid the "confrontational" type responses >by wording your question in a non-confrontational manner. >"Is there no longer a last access functionality?" sounds >like your accusing some Drupal Ninja Squirrel of stealing >some of your nuts. > >How about posting:- > > "I want to find the time for this particular event... blah blah" > >Basically, what I want to know is what do you mean by "last access >functionality"? > >We have > ->login which is timestamp at login > ->access which is timestamp at last browser hit > >You want > ->something > >Define something. > >One point; "Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling the >old time code before the newer on sets". Erm, just how far back do you want >to go? You are experimenting on global $user and so I assume you logged in >to test, so I would expect recent values for ->login and ->access > >Imagine you are using user foo (eg uid = 1234). If you load that user object >what you appear to asking for here is "when did that user login the time >before the last login?". That's rather odd functionality to expect of any >system except those that keep a record of every login time, forever. >->login is "the last time the user logged in" not "the last time the user >logged in before last". > >So, it seems your question and your responses to date have been a little >unclear. > >regards, >--Andy > >(ps, I'm trying to help ;) > > > > >Need Mail bonding? >Go to the ><http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOAR…>Yahoo! >Mail Q&A for ><http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/index;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOAR…>great >tips from Yahoo! Answers users. -- ------------------------------------------- Openflows Community Technology Lab, Inc. New York | Toronto | Montreal | Vienna http://openflows.com People are intelligent. Machines are tools.

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"Is this a bug?" type questions
by Tao Starbow 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

I have been reading this dev list for 18 months now, and I am still not 100% sure what questions will get you slapped down. I particularly wonder about questions like Carl Mc Dade just asked - ei: I am writing code that interacts with the core modules and found an unexpected behavior - is it a bug or intentional? I have interacted with other open source projects in the past where they got very upset if I filed an issue in ignorance, so I like to research before I file. Is this list an appropriate place for that research, or is this list intended to be only for developers working on the core? thanks, -tao

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Re: [development] No last access?
by Carl Mc Dade 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Put simply (SQL Server english query style) I need to get "how long it has been since the user last visited" "the time/date of the users last visit" made available to a module when the user logs in. Carl Mc Dade ____________________________ Web Developer ----- Original Message ---- From: AjK <drupal(a)f2s.com> To: development(a)drupal.org Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 6:10:54 PM Subject: Re: [development] No last access? Carl, > Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling > the old time code before the newer on sets. This is the > same problem as the access object. As matter of fact the > login ia updated a split second before the access time. > > access = 1171296985 > login= 1171296984 OK, let's go back to basics.... here's your question again: > Is there no longer a last access functionality? > using the global user and calling $user->access > gives the value after the database has been updated. > Not the value in the database at the time of login. > Ex. the value in the database table is 0000002. > You will not get this value but the value 0000003 > which is the time of the latest access. The ->login is updated when a user logs in. It's updated just once at the login time. So I'm reading your question again and, if it's not ->login that you want you'll have to rephrase your question to make sense. I read your question as "I want the time the user actually logged in". Also, you might avoid the "confrontational" type responses by wording your question in a non-confrontational manner. "Is there no longer a last access functionality?" sounds like your accusing some Drupal Ninja Squirrel of stealing some of your nuts. How about posting:- "I want to find the time for this particular event... blah blah" Basically, what I want to know is what do you mean by "last access functionality"? We have ->login which is timestamp at login ->access which is timestamp at last browser hit You want ->something Define something. One point; "Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling the old time code before the newer on sets". Erm, just how far back do you want to go? You are experimenting on global $user and so I assume you logged in to test, so I would expect recent values for ->login and ->access Imagine you are using user foo (eg uid = 1234). If you load that user object what you appear to asking for here is "when did that user login the time before the last login?". That's rather odd functionality to expect of any system except those that keep a record of every login time, forever. ->login is "the last time the user logged in" not "the last time the user logged in before last". So, it seems your question and your responses to date have been a little unclear. regards, --Andy (ps, I'm trying to help ;) ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121

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Re: [development] No last access?
by Carl Mc Dade 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Nope, That is updated first so their is no way of pulling the old time code before the newer on sets. This is the same problem as the access object. As matter of fact the login ia updated a split second before the access time. access = 1171296985 login= 1171296984 Carl Mc Dade ____________________________ Web Developer ----- Original Message ---- From: AjK <drupal(a)f2s.com> To: development(a)drupal.org Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 4:57:43 PM Subject: Re: [development] No last access? > Is there no longer a last access functionality? > using the global user and calling $user->access > gives the value after the database has been updated. > Not the value in the database at the time of login. > Ex. the value in the database table is 0000002. > You will not get this value but the value 0000003 > which is the time of the latest access. The above was your original question..... > No luck with that. Time code shown in > database = 1171293946 timecode called by > using the following <snip> > print $account-access; > 1171294179 Erm, am I missing something here or should you not be doing:- print $account->login; "login" holds the timestamp of the last login, "access" holds the timestamp of the last browser hit for the user. This is from user.module:- // Update the user table timestamp noting user has logged in. db_query("UPDATE {users} SET login = %d WHERE uid = %d", time(), $user->uid); and this is from session.inc:- db_query("UPDATE {users} SET access = %d WHERE uid = %d", time(), $user->uid); regards, --Andy ____________________________________________________________________________________ TV dinner still cooling? Check out "Tonight's Picks" on Yahoo! TV. http://tv.yahoo.com/

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Googleajaxsearch
by Maciej Perlinski 12 Feb '07

12 Feb '07

Small question , we have commited googleajaxsearch module for drupal-5, i have created branch Drupal-5 and commited the files. Anyway with drupal 4-7 it tooks like a day to compress and publish the tarbal, am I skipping something because its 4th day and there is no compressed package visable. Thanks for the feedback. -- Kinest regards, Maciej Perlinski http://www.meant4.pl Web Studio http://www.meant4.com Hosting Solutions mobile +48 600 8 9999 1 office +48 22 845 39 29

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