translations October 2006

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translation status vs. cvs?
by Gabor Hojtsy 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

Hi, http://drupal.org/translation-status On this page there is a column which is about the CVS version. First question is what CVS version is this about? If it is the TRUNK, then there is no point in measuring this. We employ a policy of putting out strings to translate when versions are 'close to ready'. The strings in the TRUNK are 7 months old(!). IMHO we should not encourage people to take these strings as a base for translation, as it is worthless to do so. Also, we are not going to update these strings, as we will commit new strings into the Drupal 5 branch, Drupal 6 branch, etc onwards. What I would like to say with this is that we should do these things IMHO: - remove these .pot files from the CVS TRUNK - remove the CVS column from that table on the status page - do not add the 5.0 column yet, since we are not providing templates for this version yet, and people should not start translation now Gabor

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New release system now installed on scratch.drupal.org
by Derek Wright 21 Oct '06

21 Oct '06

http://drupal.org/node/90436 this is basically your last chance to play with it, make constructive suggestions for improvements, usability, etc. all contrib maintainers are urged to see what it's like on the test site before it goes live. the bottom of that post explains where to send feedback. no need to discuss on these lists. thanks, -derek

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Re: [translations] New POT files for Drupal 4.7.4 available
by Kobus Myburgh 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hi Konstantin, Thank you very much. I will then wait for the final release candidate before doing my translation, so that it is ready with the official release. Regards, Kobus >>> kkaefer(a)gmail.com 10/19/2006 3:38:55 PM >>> Hi, we already discussed the release of 5.0 POT files. And we came to the conclusion that it's the best if we fix the release to a certain pre- release. If I remember correctly, Angela said something like Beta 1. But there are still quite some unfixed strings in HEAD (the reason for not releasing POT files yet) which makes me prefer the first release candidate. After all, it's not that bad if translations aren't available until 2-4 weeks after the final release. Konstantin Am 19.10.2006 um 15:07 schrieb Kobus Myburgh: > Hi Gerhard, > > If we download the 4.7.4 POTs (when they become available) is there a > way we can get our hands on the 5.0 version? I'd like to work on that > one too, in the meantime. > > Regards and thanks, > > Kobus > > >>>> gerhard(a)killesreiter.de 10/19/2006 9:45:11 AM >>> > Hi there! > > I've regenerated the POT files from the latest Drupal 4.7.4 sources > and > > committed them to CVS. They will ebcome available in the tarballs > later > > today. Please chack that your translations are still current. There > was > > a small number of string changes. > > Cheers, > Gerhard > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations(a)drupal.org > http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations > _______________________________________________ > translations mailing list > translations(a)drupal.org > http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations Konstantin Käfer – http://kkaefer.com/

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Re: [translations] New POT files for Drupal 4.7.4 available
by Kobus Myburgh 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hi Gerhard, If we download the 4.7.4 POTs (when they become available) is there a way we can get our hands on the 5.0 version? I'd like to work on that one too, in the meantime. Regards and thanks, Kobus >>> gerhard(a)killesreiter.de 10/19/2006 9:45:11 AM >>> Hi there! I've regenerated the POT files from the latest Drupal 4.7.4 sources and committed them to CVS. They will ebcome available in the tarballs later today. Please chack that your translations are still current. There was a small number of string changes. Cheers, Gerhard _______________________________________________ translations mailing list translations(a)drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations

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New POT files for Drupal 4.7.4 available
by Gerhard Killesreiter 19 Oct '06

19 Oct '06

Hi there! I've regenerated the POT files from the latest Drupal 4.7.4 sources and committed them to CVS. They will ebcome available in the tarballs later today. Please chack that your translations are still current. There was a small number of string changes. Cheers, Gerhard

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RFC: version numbers for core translations?
by Derek Wright 18 Oct '06

18 Oct '06

i've discovered another potentially tricky issue with the new release system and version numbering schemes for contrib: what should we do about version numbers for core translation releases? request for comments (RFC): http://drupal.org/node/89969 thanks, -derek

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Drupal Translation Error
by tdendup＠dit.gov.bt 12 Oct '06

12 Oct '06

Hi, The translation status at http://drupal.org/translation-status shows that the dz translations are broken. But checking the po files with msgfmt -c gives no error and also i can load my translations in my local drupal system without any errors. So it seems a little weird.. please advice me on the types of errors i might be making in my translations... Regards. Tenzin Dendup Blog : yoka.blogspot.com Home Page : http://alice.nipl.net/~tenzin/ Free Software : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/

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Drupal Dzongkha translation
by tdendup＠dit.gov.bt 09 Oct '06

09 Oct '06

Hi, I am coordinating the translation of drupal to Dzongkha(dz). We have completed translating 27 files from the total of 33 pot files. I was also given a cvs account and have uploaded all the 27 completed files. So now what should i do to make my translations appear at: http://drupal.org/project/Translations Regards. Tenzin Dendup Blog : yoka.blogspot.com Home Page : http://alice.nipl.net/~tenzin/ Free Software : http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/

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collectigng i18n use cases, and systems to learn from
by Gabor Hojtsy 05 Oct '06

05 Oct '06

Hello World, It is now official that I am going to attempt to write my diploma about Drupal Internationalization. I have confirmation from my university and my consultant there that I will work on Drupal i18n as my DIY project in this semester (10-17 weeks) and then the semester coming after that, preparing my diploma. To make this diploma worthy, I need to do this *right* (and I also need to be somewhat self-focused, so that I can show that *I* have done significant work in the project, not just showing off with what the community produced). That said, I plan to go through 1.) deep evaluation of how some of the other systems do i18n, 2.) collecting use cases in which Drupal i18n could be used, and abstracting some common stuff out of these 3.) look into how the relevant parts of Drupal are built up (dirty details of parts possibly affected by i18n, without care about how an actual implementation would affect them) 4.) study of previous Drupal i18n efforts, including all modules providing such functionality and previous approaches of them 5.) higher level suggestions about possible implementation strategies 6.) once there is consensus, coordinate implementation of the actual approach Once again, note that since I aim at this being my diploma topic, I need to do it according to the "school book" (which should help the Drupal i18n project be as throuroughly thought out and discussed as possible, but would take more time to get to the actual implementation). Also my need to produce results *myself* does not mean I should not work closely with the community. The above plan has several connections to the community, starting from collecting a list of i18n capable systems to study to getting use cases and discussing implementation strategies. I itend to do this 'in the open', so everyone can see what is going on, and can benefit from the progress. I am also not starting this with a disconnect to existing work done (namely Jose and others contributing to the i18n.module), but since there were a lot of debate around the approach taken there, I would like to take a step back, and provide a solid base for the soon to be core code with actual use cases and existing system comparisions. It could turn out that the current i18n implementation stands still, or it could result in a better implementation. Time will tell. I will have weekly meetings with my consultant at the university, who demands that I show up with some work done, so I'd better start and do what I can :) What you can do to help bring this forward first is to join the i18n group at groups.drupal.org and second to take part in any of the two community feedback requests I have put up. I would like to start with collecting your input in two areas. First if you know of a system which is possible to set up 'at home' (ie. on a usual Windows or Linux server) and you already know of its good i18n capabilities (mostly content translation related features), please tell us about it. Second if you have some use case you already tried to use Drupal i18n in (or any other software with i18n capabilities for that matter), you could provide a use case. Suggest a system: http://groups.drupal.org/node/1544 Provide a use case: http://groups.drupal.org/node/1545 What's i18n? http://groups.drupal.org/node/1543 The i18n group: http://groups.drupal.org/i18n I think it is better to comment on these nodes or add new nodes there in case of use case collection, but if you have anything pressing you need to ask/discuss/say here, just do so. Gabor

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