Gustavo, Marco, this seems to be the answer you have been waiting for?!
Gabor
On Sun, Jun 8, 2008 at 5:03 PM, Jose A. Reyero drupal@reyero.net wrote:
Gábor Hojtsy wrote:
Jose, do you have something to add to this?
Sure,
First of all, the project is alive. A different issue issue is that the level/speed of contributions is really low and I have to agree we are moving at a really slow pace, we are trying though: (Spanish) http://drupal.org.es/node/4131 (At this point I'm guessing that the current core translation is ok for most people, as most of the end user interface is already translated and no one has too much interest in translating strings like table field descriptions and that kind of stuff)
What many people has done so far is uploading their po files. That's cool, but all of them are incomplete and most of them happen to have translated (and lack) mostly the same groups of strings (The most used UI part). This has resulted in a huge number of strings to review (which takes time for reviewers) while still there are missing ones, and that's why we are encouraging people not to do it anymore.
That is about the Drupal 6 core translation. About the modules, we are not using if for contributed modules yet -which is no real excuse for the low number of contributed Spanish module translations, as these can be submitted for each module as we've been doing for ages.
So let's say just that we Spanish speaking folks are in general lazy about contributing.
The reasons for which the DH (Drupal Spanish) site administrators have not added any module yet are mainly two:
- We thought that focusing our efforts on Drupal core first was a higher
priority.
- So far, no one (zero people) has came forward and offered himself to
maintain a contrib module translation. (Also we had some server load issues in the past, but these seem to be fixed now)
This point, as everything else in DH is open for discussion. However, the first condition for considering opening the server to contributed modules is that someone takes reponsibility for periodically updating the module source po and then takes care of reviewing the translations, exporting and submitting the po file to the module's issue tracker. Be warned that is not a one time work. Modules are updated all the time and submitted strings need review, so we need some commitment here.
So be warned that requests for other people to just do more work will be possibly ignored. Now if someone wants to take the job , please, http://drupal.org.es/forum/17 or contact the site administrators, http://drupal.org.es/dh/administradores
Cheers,
Jose
Gabor
On Sat, Jun 7, 2008 at 7:17 PM, Gustavo Sánchez Muñoz gusgsm@gmail.com wrote:
Hi, Gabor and folks
Let me please, jump into this conversation to answer a question:
< Well, let's first talk about why are you going on your own way instead < of collaborating with the existing Spanish translation as linked from < the l10n server project page: http://l10n.drupal.org.es/ ? <2008/6/7 Marco Antonio Villegas Vega marvil07@gmail.com: <Hi Gábor,
I am doing that myself, after colaborating with that server, due to the sheer reason that this server and effort is half-way dead or so it seems. That is: You get no feedback whatsoever from that project and if people ready to work on translations would have to adapt to that pace, the translation of Drupal 6 into Spanish would be stalled, as the Drupal Hispano translation project seems to be.
The reason why this seems to happen, I don't know and to be honest, I don't care. Drupal Hispano is just a group of Spanish speakers in a world full of them.
My question then is: Does Spanish speaking folks have to quit using Drupal because Drupal Hispano has a slow path?
Unless it's 'officially forbidden' to contribute with other ways, my own answer is a no.
A centralized effort would be much better, of course. But the absence or faulty functioning of it should not hinder the sum of individual efforts in the Drupal.org site itself.
Excuse me for jumping in, please.
Gustavo Sánchez, from Madrid
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