Hi everyone!
My reason for asking here is Serbian translation of Drupal. There is one on drupal.org but it is very outdated. I have some .po file extracted from Drupal installation for 5.x, so I would like to share it to community.
I read whole documentation about translating on drupal.org and found some informations, which I need to be cleared. Should I update smaller .po files from this big one and then create an issue so someone will then update project page or go directly to new localization server, which I found that is on test phase?
I also checked one where I see several Slavic languages (http://www.drupaler.ru/). My question is also are those localization servers temporary, so after that all will be moved to drupal.org (i.e. l10n.drupal.org) or they will stay in current look (separated for each language)? If they move to central server on drupal.org, will all translations be moved over there? Are those current servers updated with new strings and are those translations automatically updated on drupal.org or there is need for manual update? We could create translation team for Serbian and thats why I ask you about servers, since it would be easier to translate for Drupal 6 and for numerous modules with collaboration.
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since those here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last year?
I'm sorry for my numerous questions, if you find time, please answer them. Thanks in advance. Milan Dinić
2008/2/18 Milan Dinić liste@srpski.biz:
I read whole documentation about translating on drupal.org and found some informations, which I need to be cleared. Should I update smaller .po files from this big one and then create an issue so someone will then update project page or go directly to new localization server, which I found that is on test phase?
I also checked one where I see several Slavic languages (http://www.drupaler.ru/). My question is also are those localization servers temporary, so after that all will be moved to drupal.org (i.e. l10n.drupal.org) or they will stay in current look (separated for each language)? If they move to central server on drupal.org, will all translations be moved over there? Are those current servers updated with new strings and are those translations automatically updated on drupal.org or there is need for manual update? We could create translation team for Serbian and thats why I ask you about servers, since it would be easier to translate for Drupal 6 and for numerous modules with collaboration.
The current plan is that we are going to have a central server setup on drupal.org. All translation servers are expected to export and then import their translations to the central server. A fundamental advantage of the central server will be
- drupal.org managed, so with proper backup, etc - projects will only need to be scanned once, available to all - the same set of projects available for translations of all teams - same toolset (so if you contribute to more languages, you can easily hop around) - translation packages will be generated and downloadable on drupal.org - translation status will be displayed on project pages directly on drupal.org (eg. on the Views project page, you will see a list of translation status as well)
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since those here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last year?
With l10n_server, you just need to drop in the latest Drupal 5 release (no need for specific templates). We can generate new templates for that CVS project, but string changes were minimal if anything changed at all in later Drupal releases.
Gabor
Thanks for your answer!
The current plan is that we are going to have a central server setup
on drupal.org.
Is there some prediction about time when that will be done?
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since those
here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last year?
With l10n_server, you just need to drop in the latest Drupal 5 release (no need for specific templates).
Well, thats how I understood it will work, and thats why I asked about l10n_server. So, what are you suggest, should I go to test server (since I don't want to setup new one; I see that they on drupaler.ru accept several languages) and there upload my .po file and start updating non translated strings (I understood from your explanation that translations from current servers will be imported to central one, so nothing will be lost) or do it as it was done till l10n_server (or third option to wait creation of l10n_server on drupal.org, if it will be created soon)?
2008/2/18, Gábor Hojtsy gabor@hojtsy.hu:
2008/2/18 Milan Dinić liste@srpski.biz:
I read whole documentation about translating on drupal.org and found
some
informations, which I need to be cleared. Should I update smaller .po
files
from this big one and then create an issue so someone will then update project page or go directly to new localization server, which I found
that
is on test phase?
I also checked one where I see several Slavic languages (http://www.drupaler.ru/). My question is also are those localization servers temporary, so after that all will be moved to drupal.org (i.e. l10n.drupal.org) or they will stay in current look (separated for each language)? If they move to central server on drupal.org, will all translations be moved over there? Are those current servers updated with new strings and are those translations automatically updated on
drupal.org
or there is need for manual update? We could create translation team for Serbian and thats why I ask you
about
servers, since it would be easier to translate for Drupal 6 and for numerous modules with collaboration.
The current plan is that we are going to have a central server setup on drupal.org. All translation servers are expected to export and then import their translations to the central server. A fundamental advantage of the central server will be
- drupal.org managed, so with proper backup, etc
- projects will only need to be scanned once, available to all
- the same set of projects available for translations of all teams
- same toolset (so if you contribute to more languages, you can
easily hop around)
- translation packages will be generated and downloadable on drupal.org
- translation status will be displayed on project pages directly on
drupal.org (eg. on the Views project page, you will see a list of translation status as well)
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since those here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last year?
With l10n_server, you just need to drop in the latest Drupal 5 release (no need for specific templates). We can generate new templates for that CVS project, but string changes were minimal if anything changed at all in later Drupal releases.
Gabor _______________________________________________ translations mailing list translations@drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations
2008/2/18 Milan Dinić liste@srpski.biz:
Thanks for your answer!
The current plan is that we are going to have a central server setup on drupal.org.
Is there some prediction about time when that will be done?
No.
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since those here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last year?
With l10n_server, you just need to drop in the latest Drupal 5 release (no need for specific templates).
Well, thats how I understood it will work, and thats why I asked about l10n_server. So, what are you suggest, should I go to test server (since I don't want to setup new one; I see that they on drupaler.ru accept several languages) and there upload my .po file and start updating non translated strings (I understood from your explanation that translations from current servers will be imported to central one, so nothing will be lost) or do it as it was done till l10n_server (or third option to wait creation of l10n_server on drupal.org, if it will be created soon)?
I don't you what's your definition of "soon", I have no idea when the translation server will be up on drupal.org. It could be 1 to 7 months or more. I'd advise you join the Serbian team if there is one, or establish a Serbian team and choose a localization server, if there is none yet for Serbian.
Gabor
Ok, thank you for your answers and advice, that is what I wanted to know.
2008/2/21, Gábor Hojtsy gabor@hojtsy.hu:
2008/2/18 Milan Dinić liste@srpski.biz:
Thanks for your answer!
The current plan is that we are going to have a central server setup on drupal.org.
Is there some prediction about time when that will be done?
No.
Also I must ask you where I could find updated pots for 5.x, since
those
here (http://drupal.org/project/drupal-pot) are from July of last
year?
With l10n_server, you just need to drop in the latest Drupal 5 release (no need for specific templates).
Well, thats how I understood it will work, and thats why I asked about l10n_server. So, what are you suggest, should I go to test server (since I don't
want to
setup new one; I see that they on drupaler.ru accept several languages)
and
there upload my .po file and start updating non translated strings (I understood from your explanation that translations from current servers
will
be imported to central one, so nothing will be lost) or do it as it was
done
till l10n_server (or third option to wait creation of l10n_server on drupal.org, if it will be created soon)?
I don't you what's your definition of "soon", I have no idea when the translation server will be up on drupal.org. It could be 1 to 7 months or more. I'd advise you join the Serbian team if there is one, or establish a Serbian team and choose a localization server, if there is none yet for Serbian.
Gabor _______________________________________________ translations mailing list translations@drupal.org http://lists.drupal.org/mailman/listinfo/translations
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