January 2007 - translations - lists.drupal.org

The future of Drupal interface localization for you
by Gabor Hojtsy 14 Jan '07

14 Jan '07

Hi, If you would like to try the all new shiny packaging format of locale files with your translations, please see my posts on it here: http://drupal.hu/english/node/9 http://drupal.hu/english/node/7 It is advised that you try this out, since it is expected that this type of packaging format will be adopted later for Drupal 5 localization packages to get in line with how modules, SQL files, CSS stuff etc is distributed now. It means a streamlined, performance optimized operation for your server and less hassle for users. No looking up and uploading of PO files on the web interface needed, fully translated installer and first steps with Drupal in your native langauge before you even create an admin user! Gabor

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Re: [translations] [Translations] Translation of drupal into Hausa language
by Gerhard Killesreiter 13 Jan '07

13 Jan '07

mustymni(a)linuxmail.org wrote: Hi Mustapha! > I wish to request to your capacity to please add our languge"Hausa > Language" to your language list so that we can contribute to the > translation of drupal into our native language. You need to apply for a CVS account, then you can add your language yourself: http://drupal.org/cvs-account > We will be very happy to the development of drupal into our native > language. > Wich we hope will help in actualising the dream of drupal. Great, we look forward to your contribution. Cheers, Gerhard

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Drupal 5 RC2 translation templates are ready
by Gabor Hojtsy 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

Hello World, I have made the updated translation templates available for Drupal 5 RC2. There are some improvements in Drupal core, which means slightly more strings (but better translatability overall). There were also some improvements and changes made to the extractor, so that these result in changed templates. The main changes in the extractor are: - .info file strings are now folded into general.pot (for core), as it turned out that users expect to see translated module descriptions, when deciding on whether to enable a module or not. This is a usability fix for the multiple PO file model we are experimenting with for later packages of your translations. Read up on this distribution model here if you are interested: http://drupal.hu/english/node/7 - All .pot files have CVS $Id$ comments now. This was a feature request, so that downloaded POT files have their exact versions in them. This is in line with the suggested Drupal guidelines of every possible file having CVS id comments. - There were some bugs fixed around node_perm() and time interval related strings. Drupal fixes add on up these of course. Konstantin already tried to show some issues related to the fixes which resulted in string changes (on 19th Dec 2006). Have fun fixing your translations, we are now very close to the Drupal 5 release! Gabor

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Re: [translations] [jakub@rtfm.cz: one question - Page & Story]
by Gabor Hojtsy 10 Jan '07

10 Jan '07

On Mon, 8 Jan 2007, Jakub Suchy wrote: >> This is not a critical bug, but a missing feature. Once a string gets to >> the database (in any language), Drupal does not try to translate it >> through t(). This is the same with menu items, user email text, etc. > > Hi, > thanks for explanation, but i don't think we understand each other and i > don't think you are right. Test this please: > > http://test.drupal.cz > login as XXXXXXXXXXX (hidden) > > Then add Czech language (�esky). Then import cs.po i am sending as > attachment and enable Czech language. After enabling, click "Vytvo�it > obsah" (Create content). Do you see English page, story strings? Try to > look them up in cs.po, they are translated. 1. When you install a Drupal site, the names and descriptions of the content types are added into the database. They are already in the database before you can even try to import a translation. Check your node_types table. 2. Drupal does not try to translate strings stored in the database, only strings stored in the source code files, for many good reasons. You can read up on this issue in the i18n group I pointed you earlier. > This is not "custom" string. This is unability of Drupal to translate > these strings and is a critical bug i think, because it is a major > drawback from version 4.7 (which did translate these correctly) and from > my point of view, this will lead to creation of "hacks" to support > localization correctly. This *missing feature* already lead to hacks to use t() to translate "custom" or "user defined" strings. Once a string gets to the database, it is considered "user defined", since Drupal cannot distinguish between an unmodified string inserted by Drupal in the database and a modified one. Gabor

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[jakub@rtfm.cz: one question - Page & Story]
by Jakub Suchy 08 Jan '07

08 Jan '07

same here ----- Forwarded message from Jakub Suchy <jakub(a)rtfm.cz> ----- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:47:43 +0100 From: Jakub Suchy <jakub(a)rtfm.cz> To: translations(a)lists.drupal.org Subject: one question - Page & Story Hi, I would lik eto ask one question about translations: I have system-install.po with: #: modules/system/system.install:3247 msgid "If you want to add a static page, like a contact page or an about page, use a page." msgstr "Pokud chcete přidat statickou stránku, např. výpis kontaktů nebo informací, použijte stránku." But after importing, string at Create content is still in English. Where i am doing wrong? This is also case of: #: modules/system/system.install:3256 msgid "Stories are articles in their simplest form: they have a title, a teaser and a body, but can be extended by other modules. The teaser is part of the body too. Stories may be used as a personal blog or for news articles." msgstr "Články v nejčistější podobě: mají titulek, upoutávku a tělo, ale je možno je rozšířit dalšími moduly. Upoutávka je také součástí těla. Články lze použít jako osobní blogy nebo novinky." Thanks, Jakub P.S.: Please Cc: me as i am not subscribed to translations list yet. ----- End forwarded message -----

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[jakub@rtfm.cz: %count bug in common-inc.po?]
by Jakub Suchy 02 Jan '07

02 Jan '07

Hi, i sent this message to list last week, but didn't find it in archive and my email system was broken. Please excuse me if i am posting twice... ----- Forwarded message from Jakub Suchy <jakub(a)rtfm.cz> ----- Date: Sat, 30 Dec 2006 20:31:10 +0100 From: Jakub Suchy <jakub(a)rtfm.cz> To: translations(a)lists.drupal.org Subject: %count bug in common-inc.po? Hi, i am just translating common-inc.po which has some occurrences of %count related to time. This is not correct, after correcting to @count, everything works. I think this is a bug (a critical one maybe). Can anybody confirm this? Can you please fill in a bugreport as i am on very unstable WiFi connection now and my internet barely works? Thanks. I would like to ask one more question: after releasing updated templates, is there a way to update my translation from these templates and translate only changes? Thanks, Jakub Suchy http://www.drupal.cz P.S.: Please Cc: me if sending a reply as i am not subscribed to translations list yet. P.S. 2: Happy New Year to all Drupallers. ----- End forwarded message -----

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RFC: moving contrib translations into their own projects
by Derek Wright 02 Jan '07

02 Jan '07

please see http://drupal.org/node/105986#comment-172684 this would solve the following problems: 1) needing to provide access control for translations separate from the contrib module code. 2) allowing translations to be tagged, released and packaged independently of the corresponding contrib code. so, when a popular module (e.g. views, events, etc) finally ships its 5.x-1.0 version, you can decide when to release the XY-views-5.x-1.0 translation (to language 'XY') whenever it's ready. right now, there's little or no coordination between module developers and translators, so the .po files that get released along with the contrib are almost always going to be out of date and incomplete. 3) most contrib users don't care about all the translations for a given module. however, people trying to use another language interface on their site might be interested to know all the contribs that have been translated to a that language. currently, there's no way to search for this. my proposal linked above addresses all 3. please comment there: http://drupal.org/project/comments/add/105986 thanks, -derek (dww)

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